Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017

[canman1971]

Avery Bradley & BKN 18 for Klay Thompson & 2020 unprotected 1st

Isaiah Thomas & Crowder for Julius Randle

Fultz
Klay
Brown
Randle
Horford

You should be banned for this.

[Roddy]

Vucevic could be a nice fit. Good rebounder and shot blocker. He can shoot.

Orlando is going to rebuild. With their 6th pick, they could get Isaac. With Gordon, Isaac and Biyombo, they don't need Vucevic anymore

[FlatearthZorro]

Vucevic could be a nice fit. Good rebounder and shot blocker. He can shoot.

Orlando is going to rebuild. With their 6th pick, they could get Isaac. With Gordon, Isaac and Biyombo, they don't need Vucevic anymore

I've been throwing around his name a lot if you check my posts. I think he fits here like a glove, wonder what Orlando would want for him, maybe S&T KO + 1st? They can use KO with Biyombo, Vuc and Biyombo are a not that good a pairing.

Interesting part about Vuc is that he's shooting the 3 a little as well.

[ConstableGeneva]

What about Bradley for Whiteside if we miss on Hayward. Whiteside is better than most FAs and we would be able to keep KO.

IT Fultz Brown Horford Whiteside
Rosier Smart Crowder yabs KO Zizic

Whiteside would probably cost us picks more than 1. I suspeect even MIA asking for BKN pick, which will never happen, but it will take a lot more than just Avery to get Whiteside. Dude averages 17/14/2 and he has developed a little mid range J(short one but still). Anyhow it's nice to dream I just don't think he's our type of big. We're looking to stretch the floor as much as possible.

I suspect Miami asking for Brown or Brooklyn 18 and I don't want to do that haha. I really hope we invest in a traditional center but I fear we won't. Lopez, Gortat and Thompson did waaaaay too much damage to us this year.

The problem with investing big money in a traditional center is they'd still be unplayable whenever the Cavs or Dubs go small. Adding a situational big will help though -- someone not named Tyler Zeller (or aging Amir or soft Kelly) that we could throw in there just to bang bodies in the paint whenever Thompson/Gortat/Lopez are on the floor. Eventually that could be Zizic, but trading for/signing a cheap-ish vet big this offseason would be great as Ante gets his feet wet. Ideally, you want bigs that can switch on to or trap guards and are able to recover back into the paint to protect the rim. But those don't grow on trees. (Nerlens Noel was my guy coming into last season.)

[jmr07019]

What about Bradley for Whiteside if we miss on Hayward. Whiteside is better than most FAs and we would be able to keep KO.

IT Fultz Brown Horford Whiteside
Rosier Smart Crowder yabs KO Zizic

I'd think it takes much more than Bradley to get Whiteside. He's actually an attractive asset, unlike Drummond.

Drummond is available for a reason, he's good but limited on offense, and bad on defense (although in theory could be good if he got his act together), and was a problem in the locker room this year.

Of course, he's a pretty good scorer because of his finishing ability, but if it comes at the expense of spacing and team offense... that's a problem. There's a reason the Pistons' fairly talented team missed the playoffs.

You literally just described Whiteside, as well.

I'd take Drummond over Whiteside. All things being equal, he is 23 while Whiteside is 27.

Whiteside career TS% .602
Drummond .53

Whiteside career FT% .61
Drummond .38

Whiteside from 0-3 feet for career .753
Drummond .646

Whiteside is the much better offensive player. Plus he was either the best or second best player on a team that made the playoffs. He was a locker room problem this year? I didn't hear about that.

is a far more efficient scorer and substantially better FT shooter (62 vs 38).

[jfs1000d]

With Fultz likely to be added to the roster, the Celtics will be even deeper in the backcourt. It would make sense to clear the glut at point guard and add a big man. Willie Cauley Stein would be a great pickup for us as a young, athletic shot blocker and finisher. What does everyone think of a deal built around Terry Rozier for Cauley Stein? Share your thoughts.

I threw out Rozier, jackson and the clippers pick on the trade board. most thought not enough value for WCS. Sac fans like how he played after the Cousins trade and seem uninterested in moving him really.

BTW, I doubt Ainge and Stevens will go with an unskilled C in the lineup. I think Drummond, Jordan, Cauley-Stein types just won't work for us. We don't need 3-point shooting from the 5, but he has to be able to hit a jump shot and be a passer on the perimeter.


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[Green89]

Whiteside would probably cost us picks more than 1. I suspeect even MIA asking for BKN pick, which will never happen, but it will take a lot more than just Avery to get Whiteside. Dude averages 17/14/2 and he has developed a little mid range J(short one but still). Anyhow it's nice to dream I just don't think he's our type of big. We're looking to stretch the floor as much as possible.

I suspect Miami asking for Brown or Brooklyn 18 and I don't want to do that haha. I really hope we invest in a traditional center but I fear we won't. Lopez, Gortat and Thompson did waaaaay too much damage to us this year.

The problem with investing big money in a traditional center is they'd still be unplayable whenever the Cavs or Dubs go small. Adding a situational big will help though -- someone not named Tyler Zeller (or aging Amir or soft Kelly) that we could throw in there just to bang bodies in the paint whenever Thompson/Gortat/Lopez are on the floor. Eventually that could be Zizic, but trading for/signing a cheap-ish vet big this offseason would be great as Ante gets his feet wet. Ideally, you want bigs that can switch on to or trap guards and are able to recover back into the paint to protect the rim. But those don't grow on trees. (Nerlens Noel was my guy coming into last season.)

After we get our free agent (preferably Hayward) we should deal for Chandler. His 13 mil seems like a bargain if you consider we've been paying Amir and Zeller 20 mil, and Chandler can give us better numbers and quality minutes than the two of them combined.

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[ConstableGeneva]

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Absolutely nothing. Just me trolling and wishing PG plays for the Celtics next season. I should be ashamed of myself.

[ConstableGeneva]

I suspect Miami asking for Brown or Brooklyn 18 and I don't want to do that haha. I really hope we invest in a traditional center but I fear we won't. Lopez, Gortat and Thompson did waaaaay too much damage to us this year.

The problem with investing big money in a traditional center is they'd still be unplayable whenever the Cavs or Dubs go small. Adding a situational big will help though -- someone not named Tyler Zeller (or aging Amir or soft Kelly) that we could throw in there just to bang bodies in the paint whenever Thompson/Gortat/Lopez are on the floor. Eventually that could be Zizic, but trading for/signing a cheap-ish vet big this offseason would be great as Ante gets his feet wet. Ideally, you want bigs that can switch on to or trap guards and are able to recover back into the paint to protect the rim. But those don't grow on trees. (Nerlens Noel was my guy coming into last season.)

After we get our free agent (preferably Hayward) we should deal for Chandler. His 13 mil seems like a bargain if you consider we've been paying Amir and Zeller 20 mil, and Chandler can give us better numbers and quality minutes than the two of them combined.

He's one option if he can stay upright the next couple of seasons. I thought he did fine last season. I'm afraid McDonough no longer wants to deal with Danny or he's set a higher price when dealing with the Cs after the IT trade. We supposedly went after PJ Tucker but Ryan dealt him to Toronto instead for a bag of chips (which Sully already ate before it got to Phoenix).

[brackdan70]

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Absolutely nothing. Just me trolling and wishing PG plays for the Celtics next season. I should be ashamed of myself.

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[ConstableGeneva]

Favors might get traded if Hayward stays in Utah -- http://www.sltrib.com/home/5322788-155/utah-jazz-does-derrick-favors-still

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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/05/bulpett_danny_ainge_quite_happy_with_isaiah_thomas_and_al_horford

Ainge says Celtics are keeping Horford and Thomas. Unconcerned about costs.

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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/05/bulpett_danny_ainge_quite_happy_with_isaiah_thomas_and_al_horford

Ainge says Celtics are keeping Horford and Thomas. Unconcerned about costs.

But Danny Ainge doesn’t believe the Little Guy is going anywhere — not now nor when his contract expires after next season.
The questions from the outside of whether Thomas can be a major part of a title-contending team are almost too silly to answer. But some people wonder whether the Celts will be able to keep all their desired pieces together as Thomas, Avery Bradley and others come up for renewal in this new marketplace.

“Yeah, we can fit everybody in,” said Ainge. “But, listen, those are questions that I don’t even have answers for yet. That’s part of the difficult puzzle that is all hard.

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Favors might get traded if Hayward stays in Utah -- http://www.sltrib.com/home/5322788-155/utah-jazz-does-derrick-favors-still

So you are telling me it's one or the other?

[Froob]

Random scenario that probably doesn't happen, Wolves offer Wiggins for #1 pick. We'd take it wouldnt we? He's good but they don't seem to win for some reason. Don't see a lot of Wiggins tho. Hasn't quiet lived up to the hype yet.

[Homerclease]

Random scenario that probably doesn't happen, Wolves offer Wiggins for #1 pick. We'd take it wouldnt we? He's good but they don't seem to win for some reason. Don't see a lot of Wiggins tho. Hasn't quiet lived up to the hype yet.

I turn that down. More years of control for Fultz and wiggins game outside of his scoring hasn't developed as expected

[Roddy]

Personally, I would prefer to use the cap space on 2 or 3 FA, than spend $30 million on Hayward.
Hayward is a good player, but he isn't worth $30 million IMO.

Some guys like Zach Randolph, Taj Gibson, James Johnson, Rudy Gay, Nerlens Noel, JaMychal Green, Alan Williams (RFA), Marreese Speights, Ersan Ilyasova, Serge Ibaka, Dewayne Dedmon,Greg Monroe...could really help and will cost less money.

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