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2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1221 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Nov 4, 2020 12:14 am

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Not sure how much truth to this.

There is truth it but no one is biting. Expect rj a stash and trade out and yurtseven.


Have to admit that’s pretty depressing
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Post#1222 » by neno » Wed Nov 4, 2020 12:34 am

The big man fist full of darts draft
14. Precious
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1223 » by captain green » Wed Nov 4, 2020 12:43 am

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Not sure how much truth to this.

There is truth it but no one is biting. Expect rj a stash and trade out and yurtseven.


Have to admit that’s pretty depressing

Yep it is :(
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1224 » by leper-con » Wed Nov 4, 2020 12:51 am

captain green wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
captain green wrote:There is truth it but no one is biting. Expect rj a stash and trade out and yurtseven.


Have to admit that’s pretty depressing

Yep it is :(




If the deep throats are to be believed with last years draft and this years that's 6 wasted #1 picks in two years.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1225 » by captain green » Wed Nov 4, 2020 1:02 am

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Have to admit that’s pretty depressing

Yep it is :(




If the deep throats are to be believed with last years draft and this years that's 6 wasted #1 picks in two years.

Potentially yes but let's see how it pans out nothing is certain yet but outcome is looking dreary
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1226 » by leper-con » Wed Nov 4, 2020 1:06 am

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captain green wrote:Yep it is :(




If the deep throats are to be believed with last years draft and this years that's 6 wasted #1 picks in two years.

Potentially yes but let's see how it pans out nothing is certain yet but outcome is looking dreary



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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1227 » by playa-hater » Wed Nov 4, 2020 1:45 am

My opinion on this matter is this. I don't believe there is a SINGLE player in the TOP 10 worthy of all 3 1st rd picks.

I have already used some examples of great players/centers like Gobert, Bam and Jokic who were NON lottery picks. same can be said for other positions. If you do a good job of analyzing talent you might be able to come away with 3 future starters. Not just one.

if 3 for 1 happens, I for one will so freakin pizzed off.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1228 » by snowman » Wed Nov 4, 2020 1:56 am

playa-hater wrote:My opinion on this matter is this. I don't believe there is a SINGLE player in the TOP 10 worthy of all 3 1st rd picks.

I have already used some examples of great players/centers like Gobert, Bam and Jokic who were NON lottery picks. same can be said for other positions. If you do a good job of analyzing talent you might be able to come away with 3 future starters. Not just one.

if 3 for 1 happens, I for pone will so freakin pizzed off.


+ 1000 The rhetoric going on about a roster crunch is a bunch of BS. I'd bet not a single person on this forum thinks that anyone slotted in the top 30, in any mock draft, would not be better than Green, Semi and Poirier.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1229 » by winsomme2 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 1:57 am

playa-hater wrote:My opinion on this matter is this. I don't believe there is a SINGLE player in the TOP 10 worthy of all 3 1st rd picks.

I have already used some examples of great players/centers like Gobert, Bam and Jokic who were NON lottery picks. same can be said for other positions. If you do a good job of analyzing talent you might be able to come away with 3 future starters. Not just one.

if 3 for 1 happens, I for pone will so freakin pizzed off.


Totally agree.

If a team like the Knicks doesn't see the value at 26 and 30 that's good for us. It's actually going to be hard to not pick a good prospect there because there's so many available.

A team like the Knicks not biting is Danny getting saved from himself.

Plus 14 easily could be better than whoever we would take 8-10
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1230 » by playa-hater » Wed Nov 4, 2020 2:25 am

Here is another way of looking at it. A potential 3 for 1 rumored to be for Okongwu. How much better if at all is OO compared to R Williams?? their game looks very similar IMO. In fact a trade of 3 potential good players for just 1, is actually 4 for 1 if you consider R Williams gets pushed to 3rd center?

That is a waste of 4 potentially good players for one potentially very good player. And I hate it. Last year I screamed to draft B Clarke. TWICE Ainge passed. Instead we get a 6'6 no ceiling CENTER who missed his 1st 25 NBA 3s.. (Grant Williams) Romeo Langford who looks 2 years away from being 2 years away. and a 5'11 shooting guard (Edwards)

Jesus, If Rob Williams got a really good chance, and I mean an extensive opportunity. Not just 5 mins here, no game played then another 7 min. and he looked bad, I might understand. But he actually looked good and had good production in his small sample. But enough to merit more PT. Instead he will be buried further than ever.

I don't normally blow up, but when I do... this would be one of those times..
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Post#1231 » by captain green » Wed Nov 4, 2020 2:52 am

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playa-hater wrote:My opinion on this matter is this. I don't believe there is a SINGLE player in the TOP 10 worthy of all 3 1st rd picks.

I have already used some examples of great players/centers like Gobert, Bam and Jokic who were NON lottery picks. same can be said for other positions. If you do a good job of analyzing talent you might be able to come away with 3 future starters. Not just one.

if 3 for 1 happens, I for pone will so freakin pizzed off.


Totally agree.

If a team like the Knicks doesn't see the value at 26 and 30 that's good for us. It's actually going to be hard to not pick a good prospect there because there's so many available.

A team like the Knicks not biting is Danny getting saved from himself.

Plus 14 easily could be better than whoever we would take 8-10

I sorta agree killan hayes and haliburton and a few others have distanced themselves I agree 3 for 1 is to much. But 2 for 1 and bum player is swallowable for a handful of players.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1232 » by Parliament10 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 3:00 am

captain green wrote:
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playa-hater wrote:My opinion on this matter is this. I don't believe there is a SINGLE player in the TOP 10 worthy of all 3 1st rd picks.

I have already used some examples of great players/centers like Gobert, Bam and Jokic who were NON lottery picks. same can be said for other positions. If you do a good job of analyzing talent you might be able to come away with 3 future starters. Not just one.

if 3 for 1 happens, I for pone will so freakin pizzed off.


Totally agree.

If a team like the Knicks doesn't see the value at 26 and 30 that's good for us. It's actually going to be hard to not pick a good prospect there because there's so many available.

A team like the Knicks not biting is Danny getting saved from himself.

Plus 14 easily could be better than whoever we would take 8-10

I sorta agree killan hayes and haliburton and a few others have distanced themselves I agree 3 for 1 is to much. But 2 for 1 and bum player is swallowable for a handful of players.

Doesn't seem like too many prospects that we can move up for, that are worth the effort.
I think that we could pick all 4 Draft Picks. We can Trade later.

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1233 » by Spin Move » Wed Nov 4, 2020 3:40 am

playa-hater wrote:Here is another way of looking at it. A potential 3 for 1 rumored to be for Okongwu. How much better if at all is OO compared to R Williams?? their game looks very similar IMO. In fact a trade of 3 potential good players for just 1, is actually 4 for 1 if you consider R Williams gets pushed to 3rd center?

That is a waste of 4 potentially good players for one potentially very good player. And I hate it. Last year I screamed to draft B Clarke. TWICE Ainge passed. Instead we get a 6'6 no ceiling CENTER who missed his 1st 25 NBA 3s.. (Grant Williams) Romeo Langford who looks 2 years away from being 2 years away. and a 5'11 shooting guard (Edwards)

Jesus, If Rob Williams got a really good chance, and I mean an extensive opportunity. Not just 5 mins here, no game played then another 7 min. and he looked bad, I might understand. But he actually looked good and had good production in his small sample. But enough to merit more PT. Instead he will be buried further than ever.

I don't normally blow up, but when I do... this would be one of those times..


This is silly, Okongwu is a MUCH better athlete then Williams, he is a better shooter, the only thing they have in common is they both block shots.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1234 » by Parliament10 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 3:53 am

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playa-hater wrote:Here is another way of looking at it. A potential 3 for 1 rumored to be for Okongwu. How much better if at all is OO compared to R Williams?? their game looks very similar IMO. In fact a trade of 3 potential good players for just 1, is actually 4 for 1 if you consider R Williams gets pushed to 3rd center?

That is a waste of 4 potentially good players for one potentially very good player. And I hate it. Last year I screamed to draft B Clarke. TWICE Ainge passed. Instead we get a 6'6 no ceiling CENTER who missed his 1st 25 NBA 3s.. (Grant Williams) Romeo Langford who looks 2 years away from being 2 years away. and a 5'11 shooting guard (Edwards)

Jesus, If Rob Williams got a really good chance, and I mean an extensive opportunity. Not just 5 mins here, no game played then another 7 min. and he looked bad, I might understand. But he actually looked good and had good production in his small sample. But enough to merit more PT. Instead he will be buried further than ever.

I don't normally blow up, but when I do... this would be one of those times..


This is silly, Okongwu is a MUCH better athlete then Williams, he is a better shooter, the only thing they have in common is they both block shots.

3-for-1, though. -- I don't think it's worth it.
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Post#1235 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Nov 4, 2020 4:12 am

nobody thinks Ainge is a terrible drafter more than me, but all of these rumors to me, actually make me think the opposite is true, that Ainge, like me, knows there's a good possibility of picking 3 good players in the first if things break right. I expect he'll blow it. But what if he doesn't? What if he ends up getting Woodard, Bey and Reed and Quickley in the 2nd? That's the kind of draft that would shut me up for years. That type of draft helps give Kemba rest, replaces Hayward and Theis when they leave and turns our bench from a negative to a major positive. With a better bench I think we would have made the Finals. Danny failed last year but maybe he'll surprise and hit it out of the park.
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Post#1236 » by winsomme2 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 4:13 am

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playa-hater wrote:Here is another way of looking at it. A potential 3 for 1 rumored to be for Okongwu. How much better if at all is OO compared to R Williams?? their game looks very similar IMO. In fact a trade of 3 potential good players for just 1, is actually 4 for 1 if you consider R Williams gets pushed to 3rd center?

That is a waste of 4 potentially good players for one potentially very good player. And I hate it. Last year I screamed to draft B Clarke. TWICE Ainge passed. Instead we get a 6'6 no ceiling CENTER who missed his 1st 25 NBA 3s.. (Grant Williams) Romeo Langford who looks 2 years away from being 2 years away. and a 5'11 shooting guard (Edwards)

Jesus, If Rob Williams got a really good chance, and I mean an extensive opportunity. Not just 5 mins here, no game played then another 7 min. and he looked bad, I might understand. But he actually looked good and had good production in his small sample. But enough to merit more PT. Instead he will be buried further than ever.

I don't normally blow up, but when I do... this would be one of those times..


This is silly, Okongwu is a MUCH better athlete then Williams, he is a better shooter, the only thing they have in common is they both block shots.


Is okongwu better than Achiuwa?

That is not at all clear.
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Post#1237 » by winsomme2 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 4:16 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:nobody thinks Ainge is a terrible drafter more than me, but all of these rumors to me, actually make me think the opposite is true, that Ainge, like me, knows there's a good possibility of picking 3 good players in the first if things break right. I expect he'll blow it. But what if he doesn't? What if he ends up getting Woodard, Bey and Reed and Quickley in the 2nd? That's the kind of draft that would shut me up for years. That type of draft helps give Kemba rest, replaces Hayward and Theis when they leave and turns our bench from a negative to a major positive. With a better bench I think we would have made the Finals. Danny failed last year but maybe he'll surprise and hit it out of the park.



It's actually gonna be hard to screw up 26 and 30. There are so many good prospects available in that range.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1238 » by Spin Move » Wed Nov 4, 2020 5:13 am

winsomme2 wrote:
Spin Move wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Here is another way of looking at it. A potential 3 for 1 rumored to be for Okongwu. How much better if at all is OO compared to R Williams?? their game looks very similar IMO. In fact a trade of 3 potential good players for just 1, is actually 4 for 1 if you consider R Williams gets pushed to 3rd center?

That is a waste of 4 potentially good players for one potentially very good player. And I hate it. Last year I screamed to draft B Clarke. TWICE Ainge passed. Instead we get a 6'6 no ceiling CENTER who missed his 1st 25 NBA 3s.. (Grant Williams) Romeo Langford who looks 2 years away from being 2 years away. and a 5'11 shooting guard (Edwards)

Jesus, If Rob Williams got a really good chance, and I mean an extensive opportunity. Not just 5 mins here, no game played then another 7 min. and he looked bad, I might understand. But he actually looked good and had good production in his small sample. But enough to merit more PT. Instead he will be buried further than ever.

I don't normally blow up, but when I do... this would be one of those times..


This is silly, Okongwu is a MUCH better athlete then Williams, he is a better shooter, the only thing they have in common is they both block shots.


Is okongwu better than Achiuwa?

That is not at all clear.

Yes, he is over a year younger, a much better shot blocker and a better shooter, I think every major draft expert ranks Okungwu as a higher rated player. Again that doesn't mean that Precious won't be a better pro but Okongwu is rated better by every major draft ranking.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1239 » by 31to6 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 5:33 am

winsomme2 wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:nobody thinks Ainge is a terrible drafter more than me, but all of these rumors to me, actually make me think the opposite is true, that Ainge, like me, knows there's a good possibility of picking 3 good players in the first if things break right. I expect he'll blow it. But what if he doesn't? What if he ends up getting Woodard, Bey and Reed and Quickley in the 2nd? That's the kind of draft that would shut me up for years. That type of draft helps give Kemba rest, replaces Hayward and Theis when they leave and turns our bench from a negative to a major positive. With a better bench I think we would have made the Finals. Danny failed last year but maybe he'll surprise and hit it out of the park.



It's actually gonna be hard to screw up 26 and 30. There are so many good prospects available in that range.


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1240 » by themoneyteam2 » Wed Nov 4, 2020 6:57 am

captain green wrote:
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Not sure how much truth to this.

There is truth it but no one is biting. Expect rj a stash and trade out and yurtseven.


Yurtseven in the first round? That would be disgustingly bad.

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