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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1241 » by Valid » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:14 pm

StojkoVrankovic wrote:This seems like Danny would not include a pick to me

Either that or Morey wanted our pick instead of the Clippers pick.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1242 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:14 pm

I want an avatar from the movie "Never back down" with Danny Ainge's head photoshopped on it... Love this guy.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1243 » by bbd24 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:15 pm

StojkoVrankovic wrote:This seems like Danny would not include a pick to me


He's got all the leverage. No need to give them an unprotected pick based on the situation they're in. We're not in the situation, the Rockets are.

Ainge is no dummy, hence the reason our franchise is setup perfectly to run this thing back darn soon, 08' style
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Post#1244 » by rickrolled » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:18 pm

Valid wrote:One thing is for damn sure: Danny is a **** G.

I wouldnt say that myself, Houston helped him from looking foolish.

Take on a guy that makes 15 million, even if his cap number is 8 million, plus trade a pick and Bass,Lee ? How is he a "G" ?

I credit him for the Nets trade, but Billy King is a gullible dude, so he was able to pull that off.

I honestly question Danny Ainges negotiation tactics, with the Clippers he settled with DJ and pick, instead of holding firm on Bledsoe, and now in hindsight the Nets offer was 1000x better then the Clipps offer, but again King is never going to win any trades.

I still like Ainge though,He does so many good things except the negotiation part, he seems weak there.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1245 » by StojkoVrankovic » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:19 pm

bbd24 wrote:
StojkoVrankovic wrote:This seems like Danny would not include a pick to me


He's got all the leverage. No need to give them an unprotected pick based on the situation they're in. We're not in the situation, the Rockets are.

Ainge is no dummy, hence the reason our franchise is setup perfectly to run this thing back darn soon, 08' style

I have zero issue with giving them a pick with some type of protection.
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Post#1246 » by TheRev72 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:20 pm

This feels like another bluff by Morey. Everyone knows they don't want to keep Asik and pay him the $15M next year. They only hurt themselves by waiting since any players they obtain after tomorrow can't be flipped before the deadline. Why does Morey think more teams will be interested later?

It sounds like Boston in the only team willing to pay Asik what he's owed next year. The other "big market" teams aren't in a position to trade for him. The teams with lower payrolls don't want to take on extra salary. I think Morey's in a bind and he knows it.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1247 » by Valid » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:21 pm

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Valid wrote:One thing is for damn sure: Danny is a **** G.

I wouldnt say that myself, Houston helped him from looking foolish.

Take on a guy that makes 15 million, even if his cap number is 8 million, plus trade a pick and Bass,Lee ? How is he a "G" ?

I credit him for the Nets trade, but Billy King is a gullible dude, so he was able to pull that off.

I honestly question Danny Ainges negotiation tactics, with the Clippers he settled with DJ and pick, instead of holding firm on Bledsoe, and now in hindsight the Nets offer was 1000x better then the Clipps offer, but again King is never going to win any trades.

I still like Ainge though,He does so many good things except the negotiation part, he seems weak there.

Um, Asik is a seven-footer who grabs 11 boards and plays very good interior D. Ainge was about to get him for two role players (one who won't have a defined role here when Rondo comes back) and a late first but said "**** you" to Morey when he asked for a high pick. That, my friend, is a "G."

Also, what about the KG trade? The Ray Allen trade? The Big Baby for Bass trade? He didn't settle on anything with the Clippers.

There is ample evidence to support that Ainge is a phenomenal GM.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1248 » by bbd24 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:23 pm

StojkoVrankovic wrote:
bbd24 wrote:
StojkoVrankovic wrote:This seems like Danny would not include a pick to me


He's got all the leverage. No need to give them an unprotected pick based on the situation they're in. We're not in the situation, the Rockets are.

Ainge is no dummy, hence the reason our franchise is setup perfectly to run this thing back darn soon, 08' style

I have zero issue with giving them a pick with some type of protection.


I don't as well. The player we're acquiring is one I'd like to keep for quite some time. Still only 27.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1249 » by 24istheLAW » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:23 pm

Valid wrote:
rickrolled wrote:
Valid wrote:One thing is for damn sure: Danny is a **** G.

I wouldnt say that myself, Houston helped him from looking foolish.

Take on a guy that makes 15 million, even if his cap number is 8 million, plus trade a pick and Bass,Lee ? How is he a "G" ?

I credit him for the Nets trade, but Billy King is a gullible dude, so he was able to pull that off.

I honestly question Danny Ainges negotiation tactics, with the Clippers he settled with DJ and pick, instead of holding firm on Bledsoe, and now in hindsight the Nets offer was 1000x better then the Clipps offer, but again King is never going to win any trades.

I still like Ainge though,He does so many good things except the negotiation part, he seems weak there.

Um, Asik is a seven-footer who grabs 11 boards and plays very good interior D. Ainge was about to get him for two role players (one who won't have a defined role here when Rondo comes back) and a late first but said "**** you" to Morey when he asked for a high pick. That, my friend, is a "G."

Also, what about the KG trade? The Ray Allen trade? The Big Baby for Bass trade? He didn't settle on anything with the Clippers.

There is ample evidence to support that Ainge is a phenomenal GM.


The real reason Ainge is a "G" is because Morey will have to either eat the guy's contract while he sulks on the bench or come crawling back when the trade deadline comes.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1250 » by Celtics_Champs » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:24 pm

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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1251 » by Valid » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:25 pm

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rickrolled wrote:I wouldnt say that myself, Houston helped him from looking foolish.

Take on a guy that makes 15 million, even if his cap number is 8 million, plus trade a pick and Bass,Lee ? How is he a "G" ?

I credit him for the Nets trade, but Billy King is a gullible dude, so he was able to pull that off.

I honestly question Danny Ainges negotiation tactics, with the Clippers he settled with DJ and pick, instead of holding firm on Bledsoe, and now in hindsight the Nets offer was 1000x better then the Clipps offer, but again King is never going to win any trades.

I still like Ainge though,He does so many good things except the negotiation part, he seems weak there.

Um, Asik is a seven-footer who grabs 11 boards and plays very good interior D. Ainge was about to get him for two role players (one who won't have a defined role here when Rondo comes back) and a late first but said "**** you" to Morey when he asked for a high pick. That, my friend, is a "G."

Also, what about the KG trade? The Ray Allen trade? The Big Baby for Bass trade? He didn't settle on anything with the Clippers.

There is ample evidence to support that Ainge is a phenomenal GM.


The real reason Ainge is a "G" is because Morey will have to either eat the guy's contract while he sulks on the bench or come crawling back when the trade deadline comes.

Well, yeah. That too.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1252 » by CollegeToPros » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:25 pm

Danny Ainge knows what he's doing.

Asik fills a need but he is far from perfect. No need to extend further. Just wait for them to fold.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1253 » by 24istheLAW » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:27 pm

Valid wrote:
24istheLAW wrote:The real reason Ainge is a "G" is because Morey will have to either eat the guy's contract while he sulks on the bench or come crawling back when the trade deadline comes.

Well, yeah. That too.


It will be funny to watch him get offered even less than the Celtics' reported offer in the end.

The whole thing reeks of arrogance. "Setting your own deadline?" Works if you're dealing with 8 year-olds.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1254 » by Valid » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:28 pm

24istheLAW wrote:
Valid wrote:
24istheLAW wrote:The real reason Ainge is a "G" is because Morey will have to either eat the guy's contract while he sulks on the bench or come crawling back when the trade deadline comes.

Well, yeah. That too.


It will be funny to watch him get offered even less than the Celtics' offer in the end.

The whole thing reeks of arrogance. "Setting your own deadline?" Works if you're dealing with 8 year-olds.

:lol:

You know what? If he doesn't take the Celtics' offer, that probably will happen.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1255 » by Valid » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:29 pm

Somehow, I forgot to include Ainge getting Jordan Crawford for nothing in my "G" story.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1256 » by LobCityRondo2KG » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:30 pm

what a buzz kill.. still think we need to be patient.. i still think something may go down maybe tomorrow. i think that is the last day they can acquire assets that are eligible to be moved by the TD.

Either that or Morey will gamble that he will get what he wants by the trade deadline
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1257 » by ddb » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:30 pm

I have a weird feeling that the Lakers are going to swoop in and trade Blake/Hill and a 2014 pick Top 10 protected for Asik.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1258 » by Valid » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:32 pm

ddb wrote:I have a weird feeling that the Lakers are going to swoop in and trade Blake/Hill and a 2014 pick Top 10 protected for Asik.

Not sure the Lakers would trade Hill and that pick for Asik. They love Hill over there.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1259 » by AgentGreen » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:32 pm

Morey really is delusional.
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Re: Omer Asik Trade 

Post#1260 » by 2Mas » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:33 pm

Seems like a bluff for sure.

I'd give up the first? It's gonna be a late first & we already have a late 1st.

Ainge is a G. He playing style was a G too lol. Tough nosed, not backing down, scrappy. That man is a tough cookie lol.

Anyways, think Morey is bluffing, & Ainge should just give up a pick. Asik & Rondo for January is a playoff run waiting to happen.Plus its the same deal as Bass (7 to 8.5) minus Lee's extra year, why wouldn't he do it?

He's a G, just that not always the best character trait lol.

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