Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[Slartibartfast]

I could be down for some Lou Williams, should easily be able to trade him again in the offseason for cap space if necessary

IT and Lou on the same team? Don't think it would work.

[Bohemian]

If you'd take IT over any of those players I mentioned and more right now on this team, you're a shameful liar.

Uuh chill, man. So apart from crazy, i am a liar now. Ok, you win.

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[Bohemian]

IMO, Thomas' season is on the top 5 of the league. This year. That's all.

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[jfs1000d]

I dont understand how people can say players that have never played a minute in the NBA would be so much better long term for this team than Isaiah Thomas who is a top 5 player this year in the league the way he has been playing. Pairing a rookie with AB will do nothing but set this franchise back. At least you know IT wins you games...a lot of games.

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Amen. Every draft pick is a future hall of famer.

I just noticed Williams is averaging 17.8PPG on 24.3MPG! That's nuts. He's playing Rozier minutes and scoring 18 points a night! He's also shooting the 3 at the highest percentage of his career this season.

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[jfs1000d]

Thomas is top 10 this year. Top 15 player.

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[jfs1000d]

Too is not in that lebron tier, he is in the kyrie, Lowry, klay Thompson and deroizan tier. That is between 8-15

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[ConstableGeneva]

Did we trade for Anthony Davis yet??

[Marvel]

IT will have his day to solidify his place in the top 5

Spoiler:

In the playoffs

[Murta]

have u all been watching orlando? management w bonehead win now moves in offseason. coach ain't playing younguns giving vet scrubs lots of playing time. gm fighting for his life.... might b able to pluck AG or Hezzy or a lotto pick from them for est vet... ag is about to get it rolling... playing out of position and everything... could get hezzy for the lo give him a change of scenery and see what happens

The problem in Orlando last season was that Skiles didn't fit that team style-wise and then they traded away good players for worse. The only trade they didn't lose was Oladipo & Sabonis for Ibaka, but they lost it because Ibaka is relatively redundant with Gordon, Vučević and Biyombo.

Even though he's playing out of position, Gordon is having a really nice season. Payton has improved to where his highs are much higher than ever, but his lows are where they always were. As for Hezonja, he started arctic cold for 3pt range, then Orlando had an easier schedule, they went on a run and buried him on the bench. His problem as an NBA player is that his ball-handing and defense are poor. When he plays off the bench, he has to create, which he can't, and on the other end he gets beaten. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. And he's not good enough to get minutes in the starting lineup.

btw. Not trying to get Dedmon for that insanely low amount of money might be the biggest missed opportunity of past off-season for Celtics. For heavens sake, his paycheck is 2.5 times lower than Zeller's.

[pac213up]

I'm one that believes Danny Ainge and the Celtics management could care less about this season. It's all about free agency and the draft next year.

It's beginning to look that way to me as well. What's the purpose of all that cap space anyway? If they are saving it for Hayward, he doesn't make them a contender because he doesn't solve the rebounding probmlem. And if they're saving it for another shot at Durant, that train ain't coming any time soon.

Hayward would not have to make them a contender. They could still make a trade for what ever the other piece they needed was. The Cap space is to add talent....period, it does not have to complete the puzzle.

[cl2117]

I saw on the Nuggets board the suggestion of Memphis 2019 first, Min 2017 2nd , Heat 2020 2nd for Nurkic and I would jump all over that (Young would likely be the filler). I think he'd be a really good fit on our bench and likely looks a good bit better with a better supporting cast.

The real benefit I see from him is that he'd be a solid piece to put in a bigger trade. If you're trying to trade for an established big it'd be great to have a young big to add picks to and send in the other direction. I think a guy like Nurkic rounds out trade packages much better than that Memphis pick.

[sarcasma]

Heres a thought, Boston trades the NETS 2017 which ends up #1 overall for the 76ers and Lakers pick this year. Say its 3 and 5 would you do it?

[Murta]

Heres a thought, Boston trades the NETS 2017 which ends up #1 overall for the 76ers and Lakers pick this year. Say its 3 and 5 would you do it?

For 3 and 5, I'd do it 10 times out of 10. But I doubt it'll be better than 4 and 8 (which is too early to say yes/no) and also think there's a really high chance Lakers once again keep their pick and yours pick ends up in 7-10 range.

[b3n]

Heres a thought, Boston trades the NETS 2017 which ends up #1 overall for the 76ers and Lakers pick this year. Say its 3 and 5 would you do it?

Other than the downside of creating more of a roster crunch. I think you'd have to definitely consider that. Even if it ended up #3 and #7.. is Fultz or Ball >> Smith AND Tatum? Tough call my man.

[cl2117]

Heres a thought, Boston trades the NETS 2017 which ends up #1 overall for the 76ers and Lakers pick this year. Say its 3 and 5 would you do it?

No. Not worth it if you're sitting at #1. Take the best player in the draft and keep moving.

I would definitely consider dealing them AB for Noel and the worse of their two 2017 picks though. I saw it proposed by a Sixer fan on the T&T board and I think the majority of their fanbase wouldn't be up for it, but as they continue to win it's looking increasingly likely that they end up with a worse pick than the Lakers.

It'd essentially be the Sixers betting on themselves in the 2nd half of the year with AB and Simmons being added to the squad that they'll end up as an end of the lottery team. If they end up in the 11-14 range it's a great deal for them. If they end up in the 8-10 range it's fair. And if it ends up being top 7 Boston gets a steal.

We could add Fultz with #1 move Smart to SG full-time to replace AB and then still take a shot on Giles' knees. If I'm not mistaken we'd still have the chance at grabbing Hayward too (move Smart to 6th man role). Then go into the tax to resign IT/Smart summer of 2018 (plus the BKN pick being added):

IT/Fultz/Rozier
Hayward/Smart
Crowder/Brown
Horford/Giles
Noel/Zizic/Mickey

Yes please.

[FlatearthZorro]

I saw on the Nuggets board the suggestion of Memphis 2019 first, Min 2017 2nd , Heat 2020 2nd for Nurkic and I would jump all over that (Young would likely be the filler). I think he'd be a really good fit on our bench and likely looks a good bit better with a better supporting cast.

The real benefit I see from him is that he'd be a solid piece to put in a bigger trade. If you're trying to trade for an established big it'd be great to have a young big to add picks to and send in the other direction. I think a guy like Nurkic rounds out trade packages much better than that Memphis pick.

That Mem pick could be a top 10 pick eventually.. I'm not trading anything of value for Nurkic. He's slow and unathletic and isn'[t a great rebounder. We dont need him. I think Zizic is better already.

[ConstableGeneva]

Heres a thought, Boston trades the NETS 2017 which ends up #1 overall for the 76ers and Lakers pick this year. Say its 3 and 5 would you do it?

No. Not worth it if you're sitting at #1. Take the best player in the draft and keep moving.

I would definitely consider dealing them AB for Noel and the worse of their two 2017 picks though. I saw it proposed by a Sixer fan on the T&T board and I think the majority of their fanbase wouldn't be up for it, but as they continue to win it's looking increasingly likely that they end up with a worse pick than the Lakers.

It'd essentially be the Sixers betting on themselves in the 2nd half of the year with AB and Simmons being added to the squad that they'll end up as an end of the lottery team. If they end up in the 11-14 range it's a great deal for them. If they end up in the 8-10 range it's fair. And if it ends up being top 7 Boston gets a steal.

We could add Fultz with #1 move Smart to SG full-time to replace AB and then still take a shot on Giles' knees. If I'm not mistaken we'd still have the chance at grabbing Hayward too (move Smart to 6th man role). Then go into the tax to resign IT/Smart summer of 2018 (plus the BKN pick being added):

IT/Fultz/Rozier
Hayward/Smart
Crowder/Brown
Horford/Giles
Noel/Zizic/Mickey

Yes please.

I approve this fantasy lineup.

[cl2117]

I saw on the Nuggets board the suggestion of Memphis 2019 first, Min 2017 2nd , Heat 2020 2nd for Nurkic and I would jump all over that (Young would likely be the filler). I think he'd be a really good fit on our bench and likely looks a good bit better with a better supporting cast.

The real benefit I see from him is that he'd be a solid piece to put in a bigger trade. If you're trying to trade for an established big it'd be great to have a young big to add picks to and send in the other direction. I think a guy like Nurkic rounds out trade packages much better than that Memphis pick.

That Mem pick could be a top 10 pick eventually.. I'm not trading anything of value for Nurkic. He's slow and unathletic and isn'[t a great rebounder. We dont need him. I think Zizic is better already.

It could be, it's more likely a pick in the teens. Nurkic is better than what we have now (Amir/Zeller) and I still think he is a better asset to have in a "fireworks" trade than the Memphis pick (at least right now). I think he fits nicely into the middle of our physical assets, somewhere between Brown and Rozier.

Too often in trades teams want young talent Marcus and Jaylen are usually undervalued, Terry/Mickey/Young don't have a ton of value. Nurkic gives us a solid asset in the middle. Agree Zizic looks more promising, but that's why I'd like to hold onto him and also he's not helping until next year.

[cl2117]

Heres a thought, Boston trades the NETS 2017 which ends up #1 overall for the 76ers and Lakers pick this year. Say its 3 and 5 would you do it?

No. Not worth it if you're sitting at #1. Take the best player in the draft and keep moving.

I would definitely consider dealing them AB for Noel and the worse of their two 2017 picks though. I saw it proposed by a Sixer fan on the T&T board and I think the majority of their fanbase wouldn't be up for it, but as they continue to win it's looking increasingly likely that they end up with a worse pick than the Lakers.

It'd essentially be the Sixers betting on themselves in the 2nd half of the year with AB and Simmons being added to the squad that they'll end up as an end of the lottery team. If they end up in the 11-14 range it's a great deal for them. If they end up in the 8-10 range it's fair. And if it ends up being top 7 Boston gets a steal.

We could add Fultz with #1 move Smart to SG full-time to replace AB and then still take a shot on Giles' knees. If I'm not mistaken we'd still have the chance at grabbing Hayward too (move Smart to 6th man role). Then go into the tax to resign IT/Smart summer of 2018 (plus the BKN pick being added):

IT/Fultz/Rozier
Hayward/Smart
Crowder/Brown
Horford/Giles
Noel/Zizic/Mickey

Yes please.

I approve this fantasy lineup.

I'm going to print it out so I can look at it before I go to bed at night.

I honestly don't think it's incredibly far-fetched either although Okafor seems to be the odd man out in Philly these days.

[Edug27]

Top 5 season and Top 5 player... may be a bit different. No way is he a top 5 player. But one can argue he's having a top 5ish season thus far. I wouldn't. But it's a reasonabe argument one can make.