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zoyathedestroya wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:GoCeltics123 wrote:The Raptors would never do that because Jaylen wouldn't stay there and also it's a bad trade for us.
Boucher is bad and OG is a way worse offensive player than Jaylen
Your missing the point, posters are trying to make the Celtics worse this year. Must be because the Celtics have their own 1st round pick for 2024.
I just edited my post above to include this, but here is some explanation as to why this benefits Boston:
Why for Boston:
-You avoid having to pay JB (66th in the league last season in BPM) that insane contract which would make him the highest paid player in the league..
-You get a player (OG) who is comparable in talent, comparable in age. OG is a much better defender, has more size/length while being less of a ball stopper, less ball dominant on offense. OG had higher EPM and higher TS% last season than JB..and he comes at a fraction of the cost
-You have more clearly defined pecking order. Tatum is THE 1, Porzingis is THE 2, and OG is THE 3
-Add front court depth with Boucher, who gives us a legit 4th big to back up KP, Rob, Al since all 3 of those guys are old or injury prone. That 4 headed monster up front (with Kornet as 5th big) allows us to load manage and keep everyone fresh/healthy come playoff time
As for JB resigning in Toronto, I don't see why not? He'd have an entire country to market his brand and the 7uice brand too, with the raptors being the only NBA team in Canada. He's be THE primary scorer and #1 option there. They'd have a good team, a playoff team with JB/Siakam/Barnes. And he'd be going to the team where he is most wanted.
GoCeltics123 wrote:I saw this too on twitter, kinda weird and feels like BS but something to note. Dude essentially says we tried to get a 3rd team to take Jaylen for Dame and couldn't
Hal14 wrote:hmmm....
Why for Boston:
-You avoid having to pay JB (66th in the league last season in BPM) that insane contract which would make him the highest paid player in the league..
-You get a player (OG) who is comparable in talent, comparable in age. OG is a much better defender, has more size/length while being less of a ball stopper, less ball dominant on offense. OG had higher EPM and higher TS% last season than JB..and he comes at a fraction of the cost
-You have more clearly defined pecking order. Tatum is THE 1, Porzingis is THE 2, and OG is THE 3
-Add front court depth with Boucher, who gives us a legit 4th big to back up KP, Rob, Al since all 3 of those guys are old or injury prone. That 4 headed monster up front (with Kornet as 5th big) allows us to load manage and keep everyone fresh/healthy come playoff time
Spotter wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:
I read that as Boston being under the second tax apron by 2.4 with a 14 player roster. It also says the Celtics have three non guaranteed contracts and eleven guaranteed. Unsure which player is non guaranteed beyond Kornet and Champagnie.
Celts17Pride wrote:Hal14 wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Your missing the point, posters are trying to make the Celtics worse this year. Must be because the Celtics have their own 1st round pick for 2024.
I just edited my post above to include this, but here is some explanation as to why this benefits Boston:
Why for Boston:
-You avoid having to pay JB (66th in the league last season in BPM) that insane contract which would make him the highest paid player in the league..
-You get a player (OG) who is comparable in talent, comparable in age. OG is a much better defender, has more size/length while being less of a ball stopper, less ball dominant on offense
-You have more clearly defined pecking order. Tatum is THE 1, Porzingis is THE 2, and OG is THE 3
-Add front court depth with Boucher, who gives us a legit 4th big to back up KP, Rob, Al since all 3 of those guys are old or injury prone. That 4 headed monster up front (with Kornet as 5th big) allows us to load manage and keep everyone fresh/healthy come playoff time
As for JB resigning in Toronto, I don't see why not? He'd have an entire country to market his brand and the 7uice brand too, with the raptors being the only NBA team in Canada. He's be THE primary scorer and #1 option there. They'd have a good team, a playoff team with JB/Siakam/Barnes. And he'd be going to the team where he is most wanted.
Explain it any way you want, it’s bad. It doesn’t make the Celtics a better team
fallguy wrote:Hal14 wrote:hmmm....
Why for Boston:
-You avoid having to pay JB (66th in the league last season in BPM) that insane contract which would make him the highest paid player in the league..
-You get a player (OG) who is comparable in talent, comparable in age. OG is a much better defender, has more size/length while being less of a ball stopper, less ball dominant on offense. OG had higher EPM and higher TS% last season than JB..and he comes at a fraction of the cost
-You have more clearly defined pecking order. Tatum is THE 1, Porzingis is THE 2, and OG is THE 3
-Add front court depth with Boucher, who gives us a legit 4th big to back up KP, Rob, Al since all 3 of those guys are old or injury prone. That 4 headed monster up front (with Kornet as 5th big) allows us to load manage and keep everyone fresh/healthy come playoff time
If you're trading JB it's for optimal value. This is not close to it.
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Also, I recall numerous posters complaining about Jaylen being overpaid on his last deal, with Cave leading the charge. In 2023-2024, Jaylen will be around 40th in pay. Not a bad deal whatsoever...
ajones9219 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Also, I recall numerous posters complaining about Jaylen being overpaid on his last deal, with Cave leading the charge. In 2023-2024, Jaylen will be around 40th in pay. Not a bad deal whatsoever...
People are underestimating how much the cap is about to explode. We will be up near a 200m cap by the end of that extension.
djFan71 wrote:ajones9219 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Also, I recall numerous posters complaining about Jaylen being overpaid on his last deal, with Cave leading the charge. In 2023-2024, Jaylen will be around 40th in pay. Not a bad deal whatsoever...
People are underestimating how much the cap is about to explode. We will be up near a 200m cap by the end of that extension.
Cap is limited to 10% growth, contract will be 8%. So, it’s going to be less of a % of cap by the end, but not as staggeringly less as one would hope.
Hal14 wrote:fallguy wrote:Hal14 wrote:hmmm....
Why for Boston:
-You avoid having to pay JB (66th in the league last season in BPM) that insane contract which would make him the highest paid player in the league..
-You get a player (OG) who is comparable in talent, comparable in age. OG is a much better defender, has more size/length while being less of a ball stopper, less ball dominant on offense. OG had higher EPM and higher TS% last season than JB..and he comes at a fraction of the cost
-You have more clearly defined pecking order. Tatum is THE 1, Porzingis is THE 2, and OG is THE 3
-Add front court depth with Boucher, who gives us a legit 4th big to back up KP, Rob, Al since all 3 of those guys are old or injury prone. That 4 headed monster up front (with Kornet as 5th big) allows us to load manage and keep everyone fresh/healthy come playoff time
If you're trading JB it's for optimal value. This is not close to it.
JB has 1 year left on his contract, was 66th in the league in BPM and gets injured pretty often..this is good value imo. And I outlined why in my post..
Hal14 wrote:fallguy wrote:Hal14 wrote:hmmm....
Why for Boston:
-You avoid having to pay JB (66th in the league last season in BPM) that insane contract which would make him the highest paid player in the league..
-You get a player (OG) who is comparable in talent, comparable in age. OG is a much better defender, has more size/length while being less of a ball stopper, less ball dominant on offense. OG had higher EPM and higher TS% last season than JB..and he comes at a fraction of the cost
-You have more clearly defined pecking order. Tatum is THE 1, Porzingis is THE 2, and OG is THE 3
-Add front court depth with Boucher, who gives us a legit 4th big to back up KP, Rob, Al since all 3 of those guys are old or injury prone. That 4 headed monster up front (with Kornet as 5th big) allows us to load manage and keep everyone fresh/healthy come playoff time
If you're trading JB it's for optimal value. This is not close to it.
JB has 1 year left on his contract, was 66th in the league in BPM and gets injured pretty often..this is good value imo. And I outlined why in my post..
CelticFaninLBC wrote:djFan71 wrote:ajones9219 wrote:
People are underestimating how much the cap is about to explode. We will be up near a 200m cap by the end of that extension.
Cap is limited to 10% growth, contract will be 8%. So, it’s going to be less of a % of cap by the end, but not as staggeringly less as one would hope.
Isn't there supposed to be a big cap jump in 2025-2026 due to a new tv deal or is this no longer happening?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2022/08/05/why-nba-teams-should-already-be-planning-for-the-2025-offseason/?sh=71b0736627c4
djFan71 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:djFan71 wrote:Cap is limited to 10% growth, contract will be 8%. So, it’s going to be less of a % of cap by the end, but not as staggeringly less as one would hope.
Isn't there supposed to be a big cap jump in 2025-2026 due to a new tv deal or is this no longer happening?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2022/08/05/why-nba-teams-should-already-be-planning-for-the-2025-offseason/?sh=71b0736627c4
I think the new CBA added the 10% thing. Will see if I can find a link later
fallguy wrote:Hal14 wrote:fallguy wrote:
If you're trading JB it's for optimal value. This is not close to it.
JB has 1 year left on his contract, was 66th in the league in BPM and gets injured pretty often..this is good value imo. And I outlined why in my post..
His market value is higher than this. It's not about BPM. It's about how he's perceived.
CelticFaninLBC wrote:djFan71 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Isn't there supposed to be a big cap jump in 2025-2026 due to a new tv deal or is this no longer happening?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2022/08/05/why-nba-teams-should-already-be-planning-for-the-2025-offseason/?sh=71b0736627c4
I think the new CBA added the 10% thing. Will see if I can find a link later
Ok. I can't find much on the 2025-26 cap. Sportstrac has the salary cap at $156m for 2025-2026, which is quite a jump from 2024-2025.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/2025/
