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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#141 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:45 am

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KillahGhostface wrote:Kornet>Queta

this couldn't be truer if it was truth itself! however, i think he wont be by maybe next season, definitely the one after. korny will likely always be smarter basketball-wise but I think Queta will be much better for the game/impact. he has to work hard as hell this offseason but he has something.

I like being wrong, but maybe the universe can ease up a little. :lol:


Queta has more upside, I’m with you. But for now, Luke feels miles ahead, IMO. He just knows where to be, and makes really quick decisions when he gets the ball.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#142 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:46 am

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Funny because I think Joe gets too much analysis based on regular season accomplishments. This is a ridiculously talented roster who should easily obtain a top regular season record. Come playoffs everything gets magnified. We will see then.

I mean I don’t even think I’ve seen him get praised that much?

Last season he came in under trying circumstances and we got to the ECF where our second best player was absolutely horrific.

He also got criticised plenty in that series for the lack of Grant, the execution late in the first few games etc.

This season any time we lose (which has been extremely rare) the default thing seems to be to throw out all the usual bash Mazzulla lines.

I’m personally waiting to see how the season finishes up before making my mind on a second year coach in his mid 30s.

He’ll probably be fired for sure if they go out again in the playoffs in disastrous style


Here is the thing. We have an extremely competitive roster with some great players. Hiring a "coach in his mid 30s" was Probably not the way to go.. Yes there were some tough circumstances involved. But winning a title is hard enough (1 in 38 years) a more seasoned coaching Veteran (I wanted Rick Carlisle) would have been much better fit. Boston hired back to back coaches with NO HC experience who both failed in what we needed most, Guidance in close games at finishing. Especially in the playoffs.

Maybe one day Joe will grow and become a great coach. But as of Now, he looks green at times and definitely looks lost as what to do often. All while I think he definitely is too scared to tell Brown to stop dribbling so much and for Tatum to take far less ISO step back 3s.

It is what it is. Mazzulla is the coach now and I don’t think he’s been nearly as bad this season as some are making out.

Bashing Mazzulla has almost become like the new bash the officiating. Tonight he was being bashed despite benching a struggling starter and putting Tatum on SGA which really turned the tide late.

Also to say Ime failed is just absolutely ridiculous. He got us to the finals and our best player got outplayed by a top 15 all time great.

As for Carlisle that guy coaches NBA games these days like he’s coaching the Harlem Globetrotters. Both the Mavs and Pacers have wheeled out some of the more pathetic defences I’ve ever seen.

People spent all of last season bashing Joe for the shift in focus to offence, would hate to see all the bashing Carlisle would have copped
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#143 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:48 am

JB was just off in this game.

One bad game does not erase the good JB did in December.

It was just OKC's night.

Made all the big shots in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

OKC is good, but they're not this good.

Reminds me of the Cs losing to the Magic in the in-season tournament.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#144 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:50 am

KillahGhostface wrote:
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KillahGhostface wrote:Kornet>Queta

this couldn't be truer if it was truth itself! however, i think he wont be by maybe next season, definitely the one after. korny will likely always be smarter basketball-wise but I think Queta will be much better for the game/impact. he has to work hard as hell this offseason but he has something.

I like being wrong, but maybe the universe can ease up a little. :lol:


Queta has more upside, I’m with you. But for now, Luke feels miles ahead, IMO. He just knows where to be, and makes really quick decisions when he gets the ball.

luke is also in his prime, so we'll have to see where Queta is in about 3-4 years.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#145 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:53 am

Cs just need to get back on the winning track against the Jazz.

Going 13-3 in January seems unlikely now.

Hoping for 12-4, but 11-5 is good enough.

It's a tough January schedule.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#146 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:53 am

thought this was Pritchard's best game as far as a playoff-like atmosphere. has he ever been in against a very good team during a close crunch time game? the guy stepped up admirably.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#147 » by Sweet Serenity » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:54 am

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I’ve watched every game this year. He’s not a winning basketball player.

I won’t waste my energy arguing I can see why some people are fooled by the flashy plays. I really shouldn’t compare JB to White though, that’s setting the bar too high. White is an example of a winning selfless basketball player. JB just doesn’t have IT


Because you’re looking at it through the eyes of someone who doesn’t like Jaylen & i know that because all your posts on this forum are all negative towards Jaylen.

It’s just bizarre that you can tell us you’ve watched every game this year & say he’s not a winning basketball player after the month he’s had.

Nothing changes for people like you. You’ll glance over his improvement’s & then come right back here to spew the same nonsense you’ve been spewing as soon as he has one bad game.



I don’t like Jaylen on this team because I have a preference for team basketball players with natural skills. It has absolutely nothing to do with JB personally.

I’ve had a large enough sample size over the years. JB is not a winning basketball player. I understand JB went on an arch trying to prove he’s a playmaker. It’s still about HIM. Just give the ball to the ball handlers. Seriously selfish. I never said one bad word about White his first year even when shots didn’t always fall because I honestly saw smart winning basketball.

I’m pretty sure Julius Randle is putting up more efficient numbers than JB. If Randle played on this team, you can’t convince me he’s a winning basketball player. Nothing personal, I just don’t like that type of basketball. Randall seems like a pretty nice guy off the court.

I praise players like Halliburton and White because I absolutely love the way they play. It’s NOT ABOUT BROWN!

His PLAY does not pass the team basketball eye test. He plays like he’s always trying to prove he’s good at his weaknesses at the expense of just giving the ball to the ball handlers. I don’t enjoy watching that even when shots fall.


The guy starts playing team-first basketball & you still call him selfish because in your mind you think he’s trying to make it about him.
That reads as someone who has a problem with him personally rather than a fair analysis.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#148 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:55 am

Shak_Celts wrote:thought this was Pritchard's best game as far as a playoff-like atmosphere. has he ever been in against a very good team during a close crunch time game? the guy stepped up admirably.

Not before this game.

This is the first game I saw PP in crunch time this season.
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Post#149 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:15 am

I must say watching Derrick White hit rainbow threes swish late in games is still quite surreal.

Back in 2022 he went through a phase where he didn’t even look confident shooting open threes
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#150 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:16 am

Shak_Celts wrote:thought this was Pritchard's best game as far as a playoff-like atmosphere. has he ever been in against a very good team during a close crunch time game? the guy stepped up admirably.

2022 finals game 1 he played deep into the fourth and his shooting was big in our comeback
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#151 » by Sweet Serenity » Wed Jan 3, 2024 5:55 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:I must say watching Derrick White hit rainbow threes swish late in games is still quite surreal.

Back in 2022 he went through a phase where he didn’t even look confident shooting open threes


It’s insane when you remember he looked scared to even touch the ball during that post season lol
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#152 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:04 am

playa-hater wrote:Jrue had his worst game by far since wearing Celtic Green and Brown was just as bad. But we only lost by 4... Am I doing this right??

But truth is I don't trust Joe in a close playoff series deep in the playoffs.

Sorry.. Not sorry.


This wasn’t on Joe. I’m actually glad he didn’t brought Jrue back in. Would have loved Al to come back for pritch to finish. Though pritch worked his ass off getting rebounds and loose balls.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#153 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:06 am

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fallguy wrote:Time to stop pretending White is anything less than our third best player.


I’ve said it 30 times. At any given time, White is our second best player and our first is a three-seat game of musical chairs on any given night. But D White always brings it, no off nights.


White and porzingis are the only players that bring it every night, especially White.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#154 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:13 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Anyone think Holiday is not much of an upgrade over Smart? Maybe slightly better? Idk

Porzingis is obviously a huge difference maker, along with white turning super saiyan, and then you have Hauser and PP playing better this season. But I personally don’t think Holiday is bringing a huge impact like the media likes to mention.


Holiday is a million tomes better than smart!
I don’t care if he’s playing poorly in some games and missing gimme layups. He will get it done in the playoffs. Marcus Smart palying in crunch time makes me want to puke watching him. He flops a lot, makes poor risky passes, and is an awful awful shooter. I’ll take Jrue 10/10 times over smart.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#155 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:16 am

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Sweet Serenity wrote:
We were down by 18 with half a quarter left & almost came back to win & thats one of your main takeaways ?

Some of you posters are pathetic when it comes to your analysis on Joe.

I thought he didn’t panic. He benched Jrue, and played the end game flawlessly.


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Letting PP close the game over Holiday was a huge progression from Joe. He rarely does that.


I agree with this 100. He’s learning. or maybe last year, he doesn’t want to rattle the feathers of his starters.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#156 » by SuperDeluxe » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:20 am

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jfs1000d wrote:I thought he didn’t panic. He benched Jrue, and played the end game flawlessly.


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Letting PP close the game over Holiday was a huge progression from Joe. He rarely does that.


I agree with this 100. He’s learning. or maybe last year, he doesn’t want to rattle the feathers of his starters.

With consistent minutes Pritchard is showing consistent play. You can also tell he's fighting as much as he can on defense, not to mention how fiercely he goes after offensive rebounds. Definitely looking more confident this year, maybe a by-product of his increased minutes and also of JT and JB passing him the ball.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#157 » by Triple7 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:27 am

Props to okc! They may be a young team, but they play with poise, and they are not easily rattled. Same thing they did against the warriors when they beat them. A lot of teams, including ours in the previous years would have folded easily when a big lead gets cut. SGA and Chet are the real deal. They will be scary good in 1-2 years.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#158 » by Tatumfor2 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:27 am

:lol: 8 pages?

I thought we were going to pull it off down the stretch.

Has Jrue ever had a worse game? Not just for us but ever?
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#159 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jan 3, 2024 6:52 am

Fierce1 wrote:JB was just off in this game.

One bad game does not erase the good JB did in December.

It was just OKC's night.

Made all the big shots in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

OKC is good, but they're not this good.

Reminds me of the Cs losing to the Magic in the in-season tournament.


It was just Golden State tonight, it was just Miami's night it was just Toronto's night it was just Lakers night it was just a playing tournament night all these freaking excuses for what should be the most talented team in the league.
You can't

hold the Celtics to lower expectations you hold them to high expectations and there are no excuses if they are going to win the championship they need to be a diamond team and they continue to implode in these situations.
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Re: Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24 

Post#160 » by Sweet Serenity » Wed Jan 3, 2024 7:08 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:JB was just off in this game.

One bad game does not erase the good JB did in December.

It was just OKC's night.

Made all the big shots in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

OKC is good, but they're not this good.

Reminds me of the Cs losing to the Magic in the in-season tournament.


It was just Golden State tonight, it was just Miami's night it was just Toronto's night it was just Lakers night it was just a playing tournament night all these freaking excuses for what should be the most talented team in the league.
You can't

hold the Celtics to lower expectations you hold them to high expectations and there are no excuses if they are going to win the championship they need to be a diamond team and they continue to implode in these situations.


What am I even reading ? :lol:

So what we’re supposed to go 82-0 & if not we’re imploding ? lol

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