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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1441 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:21 pm

Kenhov wrote:Last year Boston went in on Cousins. Back then the rumour was Sully, Bradley, and two first round picks. Now Cousins value has grown, he is on an extended contract, but Sacramento are regressing and he was tight with Mike Malone.

They have dropped something like 5 in a row recently and if the Williams trade falls through and they dont get a premier PG, then it wont be long before they have a disgruntled Cousins on their hands.

Of course, Boston would need a premier PG to go with a Cousins so they would have to find a way to get one, and the most accessible talented PG will likely be Reggie Jackson, who is the type of combo guard Ainge loves.

Thats who I expect Boston to go after. How they piece it together...I leave to the trade experts.


Where'd you hear that rumor? I don't remember it.. Cousins could want out, although I don't see it happening yet. He maxed up, he's been a good soldier since USA Basketball.. More would have to go wrong, and I'd be shocked if he didn't get a superstar trade package.

That said, Green, Sully, and 1sts is a price I'd pay.

Sacramento's not really regressing, by the way- they were losing because Cousins was out with some kind of injury (meningitis?). Collison has been a home run, Landry has been healthy and decent, Mclemore's blossoming- Gay is being put in the right spots and producing well.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1442 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:22 pm

I would personally look at Bradley/Sullinger for Mclemore/Landry.. Or Bass/Sullinger, or Bass/Sullinger/Bradley for Landry/Thompson/Mclemore..
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Post#1443 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:22 pm

If I could, I'd try a Bradley small-for-big deal (Kanter?) and a Sullinger big-for-small (e.g. Mclemore).
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Post#1444 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:45 am

FWIW some Kings posters think Sully/Bass for Mclemore/Landry is in the ballpark of fair value. Or Sully/Bass/Bradley for Thompson/Landry/Mclemore. Hurts our cap flexibility, we'd urgently need takers for one or more of Wallace, Landry, Thompson., Bradley. But I think we could get them. Worth it, to me, to get a potential all-star 2 guard.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1445 » by brackdan70 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:40 am

andy582 wrote:FWIW some Kings posters think Sully/Bass for Mclemore/Landry is in the ballpark of fair value. Or Sully/Bass/Bradley for Thompson/Landry/Mclemore. Hurts our cap flexibility, we'd urgently need takers for one or more of Wallace, Landry, Thompson., Bradley. But I think we could get them. Worth it, to me, to get a potential all-star 2 guard.


would love to of something along those lines. I don't think there is any traction now for moving McLemore is there? I know he was rumored as part of a Rondo deal in years past, but now?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1446 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:45 am

Supposedly he's 'untouchable' because some playoff teams called asking about him and the Kings said no. And he hasn't been in the mix in recent Rondo or Deron (or Josh Smith) trade offers. So they currently value him highly, much more than they did a year ago. But I think the right deal can pry him loose.

I'd also do something like Bass for Landry/Stauskas, or Bradley for JT/Stauskas. The latter, especially, is a nice rearrangement of salary obligations- a cheap deadeye 2 guard, and a player about Bass level, with different strengths-weaknesses, locked under contract.
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Post#1447 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:46 am

Depending on what we can find with Wallace, Green and Bradley, I think it's worth looking into ways to take on some bad money and get rewarded for it..
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Post#1448 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:51 am

A Bulls poster thinks Green for expirings/SAC 1st would be worth doing.. We could probably set it up to get the Bulls' pick if the Kings wind up in the top 10 (which would keep their pick in Sacramento).
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Post#1449 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:42 am

andy582 wrote:If I could, I'd try a Bradley small-for-big deal (Kanter?) and a Sullinger big-for-small (e.g. Mclemore).


I like the idea, I do not think Sac will bite.... They would want something better for Kanter than Bradley.

Anyways, I think Sully for Kanter straight up is a fair trade. We get a true center, UTA already paid Favors, and they got Gobert on the cheap for this and 3 more years, they need a PF, so I think this trade should be good for both sides.
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Post#1450 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:54 am

Kanter's not a true center. He's effectively like Greg Monroe- can't really defend 4s or 5s perfectly, doesn't block a lot of shots, but boards and scores. It's a buy low because he's a big and Utah may not have room for him.. though Quinn Snyder's been talking about watching a lot of Memphis games to see how their big men coexist..
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Post#1451 » by Jkam31 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:41 pm

andy582 wrote:FWIW some Kings posters think Sully/Bass for Mclemore/Landry is in the ballpark of fair value. Or Sully/Bass/Bradley for Thompson/Landry/Mclemore. Hurts our cap flexibility, we'd urgently need takers for one or more of Wallace, Landry, Thompson., Bradley. But I think we could get them. Worth it, to me, to get a potential all-star 2 guard.


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Post#1452 » by Jkam31 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 12:44 pm

andy582 wrote:FWIW some Kings posters think Sully/Bass for Mclemore/Landry is in the ballpark of fair value. Or Sully/Bass/Bradley for Thompson/Landry/Mclemore. Hurts our cap flexibility, we'd urgently need takers for one or more of Wallace, Landry, Thompson., Bradley. But I think we could get them. Worth it, to me, to get a potential all-star 2 guard.


There's no way we trade mclemore for tgat if if a kings fan told you that's fair value he's either a laker fan deep down or he's clueless. Mclemore won't be traded unless it's for an established star dude has to much potential and is our 3rd best player right now.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1453 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:40 pm

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andy582 wrote:FWIW some Kings posters think Sully/Bass for Mclemore/Landry is in the ballpark of fair value. Or Sully/Bass/Bradley for Thompson/Landry/Mclemore. Hurts our cap flexibility, we'd urgently need takers for one or more of Wallace, Landry, Thompson., Bradley. But I think we could get them. Worth it, to me, to get a potential all-star 2 guard.


There's no way we trade mclemore for tgat if if a kings fan told you that's fair value he's either a laker fan deep down or he's clueless. Mclemore won't be traded unless it's for an established star dude has to much potential and is our 3rd best player right now.



Sullinger is averaging 14 and 9, and I believe SGs are really easy to find, so I wouldn't do the trade if I'm the C's. We will agree to disagree.

I'd keep Sully, u can keep Ben. ;)
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Post#1454 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:20 pm

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andy582 wrote:FWIW some Kings posters think Sully/Bass for Mclemore/Landry is in the ballpark of fair value. Or Sully/Bass/Bradley for Thompson/Landry/Mclemore. Hurts our cap flexibility, we'd urgently need takers for one or more of Wallace, Landry, Thompson., Bradley. But I think we could get them. Worth it, to me, to get a potential all-star 2 guard.


There's no way we trade mclemore for tgat if if a kings fan told you that's fair value he's either a laker fan deep down or he's clueless. Mclemore won't be traded unless it's for an established star dude has to much potential and is our 3rd best player right now.


DIdn't actually say they'd do it, but that it was roughly fair. You guys get summer cap space and a stretch 4 to board with Cousins.. And I brought up Bass after someone mentioned that the Kings needed a 4 who could defend the pick and roll..
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1455 » by rickrolled » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:45 pm

Is Sullys value that low that we only get McLemore ?

Just wait till the offseason When has a year left,hes still on a rookie deal...

Why are people Willing to rush things ???

What's the rationale behind moving Sully ? If it's tanking, there are other players ahead of him that needs to go.. Thornton, Nelson, Bass, Wright, Green (vets) . Some of those can net you adequate value.

If the reason to move Sully is because he is moping for not playing enough minutes or being benched....Dude is cemented in the starting lineup for no obvious reason, don't think you Guys know what's going on behind the scenes based on some tweets from some nonsense reporters...
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1456 » by 165bows » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:29 am

Marcus Thornton for Jason Terry, a minimum salary, and Houston's second rounders from NY and Denver sounds useful to both sides.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1457 » by JohnB » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:48 am

I know it's been talked about a lot before the rondo trade, and it probably makes less sense now BUT what if we could get Melo for cheap? If we could get him cheap AND we decided to go all in win now, who else could we get?

I know it's unlikely, and I'm not sure I'd even be in favor of it, but I do wonder who else we could get if we were willing to cash in on picks and prospects.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1458 » by Bohemian » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:13 pm

Just finished watching last night´s game.

Horrendous, atrocious effort. The team didn´t give a damn, Stevens didn´t make sense with his rotations. The Wizards made fun of us.

So...

Can anyone please talk about some kind of trade rumor??? Please, I need to see some movement here, this team is unwatchable lately
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Post#1459 » by bceltic55 » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:15 pm

Agree with your thoughts Bohemian. AB and Sully need to go and bring a SG that can score on drives as well as 3 pointers. We need help for Jeff Green our only consistant scorer.
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Post#1460 » by JohnB » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:36 am

Yeah sully is the guy I'd like to upgrade. What if we could trade sully with picks and contracts for melo and more picks and unneeded guys for hibert? Could smart, AB, green, melo, hibert with a bench of most of what we have do anything?

What about big al? Could sully and other small assets fetch him? Would we want him?

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