2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27)

[djFan71]

Do you have any thoughts on Pacome Dadiet or Armel Traoré since France is taking over the NBA now?

Dadiet is intriguing. Traoré I didn't know about til Hal posted the Cs worklist list earlier and he was on it.

[BK_2020]

As I've said elsewhere the NCAA's decision to allow revenue sharing payments to athletes will significantly increase the age of NBA draft classes. You may even see a number of 18-19 year-old international players opting to play U.S. college ball.

I don't think they get very much. I'm guessing the people that get discussed for the Celtics' 30th pick are getting paid in the thousands per year range.

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Cool thing for Celtics fans, being in the NBA Finals, and by the time it finishes there will only be a two weeks until the draft and about 3 weeks until free agency. No big lulls in the action.

And the Olympics where we get to see Tatum and Holiday.

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[Smart2Nesmith43]

Do you have any thoughts on Pacome Dadiet or Armel Traoré since France is taking over the NBA now?

Dadiet is intriguing. Traoré I didn't know about til Hal posted the Cs worklist list earlier and he was on it.

Armel Traoré isn't a serious draft prospect in my opinion. Just not skilled enough for the NBA. There's only one scenario where I would contemplate picking him. If you are confident that the American prospect you want at 54 is still going to be there as an UDFA (which is overwhelmingly likely with just 4 more picks in the draft) and that you can convince that prospect in free agency (not as easy but Boston has had a lot of development success stories recently so that helps their case) then sure why not as a stash guy at 54. At that point in the draft you are better off getting as many rolls of the dice as you can and stashing a guy opens up a roster spot for another long shot prospect.

NBA teams love to stock the back end of their roster with brothers of their stars (Antetokounmpo, Mobley,...) and I rate his little brother (who is draft eligible in 2025) higher than Sarr and Risacher so I guess if Nolan turns into a star having the draft rights of Armel might have some value.

I haven't tracked Dadiet very closely since he left France fairly early in his development. I can't really say much about him. I don't love his career choice of going to Ulm (despite their alleged emphasis on player development I don't feel like they did a great job of preparing Killian Hayes for the NBA for instance) and it's usually a big red flag for me when players make questionable career moves early on. It tends to reflect either poor judgement or a bad entourage or both, neither of which is easily fixable. Fun fact, a couple years ago, he was a teammate of Begarin at Paris, where he was the third unit guy that would be thrown on the floor at the end of blow outs as a 16 years old.

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CBSSports has Boston selecting Justin Edwards at 30 in their latest mock (right after Scheierman to Utah).

Seems like there is not much interest in him here. Maybe he's getting lost in the shuffle since Kentucky was pretty loaded?

He looks like more of a high risk/high reward type, and my preference has been for the Celtics to get a solid, if unspectacular, bench contributor. Edwards seems more like a guy to develop for a year or two.

Maybe he's too risky for Brad to use a 1st rounder on, but the potential is there, and apparently he had a nice combine.

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Do you have any thoughts on Pacome Dadiet or Armel Traoré since France is taking over the NBA now?

Dadiet is intriguing. Traoré I didn't know about til Hal posted the Cs worklist list earlier and he was on it.

Armel Traoré isn't a serious draft prospect in my opinion. Just not skilled enough for the NBA. There's only one scenario where I would contemplate picking him. If you are confident that the American prospect you want at 54 is still going to be there as an UDFA (which is overwhelmingly likely with just 4 more picks in the draft) and that you can convince that prospect in free agency (not as easy but Boston has had a lot of development success stories recently so that helps their case) then sure why not as a stash guy at 54. At that point in the draft you are better off getting as many rolls of the dice as you can and stashing a guy opens up a roster spot for another long shot prospect.

I agree to some extent with your eval of Armel. But at the same time, my player comp for him (ironically) is Oshae Brissett. I think they're pretty similar in terms of play style, size, body type, limitations on offense, the way they move on the floor, etc.

Brissett has been a solid role player for us this season. He's been a good fit as a 10th man. And Armel is about 5 years younger than Brissett, so there is a possibility of Armel (long term) developing more of an offensive skill set than what we've seen this season from Brissett.

Brad has shown a willingness to add guys to the roster who had offensive limitations but were very good defensively (Tillman, Lamar Stevens) or at least good defensively + good athleticism (Springer, Walsh, Brissett)

The Celtics had Armel in for a pre-draft workout recently, so perhaps Brad and company see the vision as well.

Worst case scenario, we sign Armel to a summer league contract and see how he does there - like we did last season with overseas players (who were also like age 21/22) in Valerio-Bodon and Balcerowski.

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CBSSports has Boston selecting Justin Edwards at 30 in their latest mock (right after Scheierman to Utah).

Seems like there is not much interest in him here. Maybe he's getting lost in the shuffle since Kentucky was pretty loaded?

He looks like more of a high risk/high reward type, and my preference has been for the Celtics to get a solid, if unspectacular, bench contributor. Edwards seems more like a guy to develop for a year or two.

Maybe he's too risky for Brad to use a 1st rounder on, but the potential is there, and apparently he had a nice combine.

Agreed with most of this. In particular that Edwards seems like too much of a boom or bust pick to use a 1st rounder on.

I'm fine taking him if it's in like the 45-60 range. Probably wouldn'want to touch him sooner.

Also, I actually don't think he was very good at the combine. At least in the scrimmages. Thought he was one of the least impressive players in those games. But it's also the older guys who do better than the freshmen in those games (the top freshmen usually don't play in them) and it's also tricky environment to play in since you barely get any practice time with your teammates, it's really just a pick up game where the team hasn't developed roles foe each player or chemistry or anything.

And Edwards took awhile this season at Kentucky to find his groove so it's not surprising that he wasn't great in the combine scrimmages.

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[djFan71]

Do you have any thoughts on Pacome Dadiet or Armel Traoré since France is taking over the NBA now?

Dadiet is intriguing. Traoré I didn't know about til Hal posted the Cs worklist list earlier and he was on it.

Armel Traoré isn't a serious draft prospect in my opinion. Just not skilled enough for the NBA. There's only one scenario where I would contemplate picking him. If you are confident that the American prospect you want at 54 is still going to be there as an UDFA (which is overwhelmingly likely with just 4 more picks in the draft) and that you can convince that prospect in free agency (not as easy but Boston has had a lot of development success stories recently so that helps their case) then sure why not as a stash guy at 54. At that point in the draft you are better off getting as many rolls of the dice as you can and stashing a guy opens up a roster spot for another long shot prospect.

NBA teams love to stock the back end of their roster with brothers of their stars (Antetokounmpo, Mobley,...) and I rate his little brother (who is draft eligible in 2025) higher than Sarr and Risacher so I guess if Nolan turns into a star having the draft rights of Armel might have some value.

I haven't tracked Dadiet very closely since he left France fairly early in his development. I can't really say much about him. I don't love his career choice of going to Ulm (despite their alleged emphasis on player development I don't feel like they did a great job of preparing Killian Hayes for the NBA for instance) and it's usually a big red flag for me when players make questionable career moves early on. It tends to reflect either poor judgement or a bad entourage or both, neither of which is easily fixable. Fun fact, a couple years ago, he was a teammate of Begarin at Paris, where he was the third unit guy that would be thrown on the floor at the end of blow outs as a 16 years old.

Thanks, I appreciate the insight. I won't expand my lust list to include any of them.
Assumedly we have no shot at Nolan next year if you rate him that highly.

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Again, I wouldn't hate it if we grab this guy in the 2nd round.

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Again, I wouldn't hate it if we grab this guy in the 2nd round.

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It's pretty much destiny lol. Grant Williams' Ghost.

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Again, I wouldn't hate it if we grab this guy in the 2nd round.

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It's pretty much destiny lol. Grant Williams' Ghost.

There's definitely some similarities to Grant.

[Celts17Pride]

Harrison Ingram has Brad Stevens pick written all over it.

Trade down from 30th multiple times, acquire 2nd round picks, then pick Harrison Ingram with the something like 44th pick.

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Harrison Ingram has Brad Stevens pick written all over it.

Trade down from 30th multiple times, acquire 2nd round picks, then pick Harrison Ingram with the something like 44th pick.

I’ve only casually followed college ball lately then gone back to look at the prospects after.

I was looking at this guy’s history and thought “man that would be a super boring pick” then it hit me I was seeing the future lol.

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[djFan71]

Probably removes the Pelicans from the trade up list. Made more sense when they could take 17 and trade 21.

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ESPN Givony mock draft update - 5/30/2024

1 Hawks - Z. Risacher

2 Wizards - A. Sarr

3 Rockets - R. Sheppard

4 Spurs - S. Castle

5 Pistons - M. Buzelis

6 Hornets - R. Dillingham

7 Blazers - D. Clingan

8 Spurs - T. Salaun

9 Grizz - D. Knecht

10 Jazz - N. Topic

11 Bulls - R. Holland

12 OKC - D. Carter

13 Kings - J. Walter

14 Blazers - C. Williams

15 Heat - Z. Edey

16 76ers - J. McCain

17 Lakers - T. Da Silva

18 Magic - J. Furphy

19 Raptors - K. George

20 Cavs - C. Carrington

21 Pels - I. Collier

22 Suns - K. Filipowski

23 Bucks - K. Ware

24 Knicks - Y. Missi

25 Knicks - T. Kolek

26 Wizards - B. Klintman

27 Wolves - B. Scheierman

28 Nuggets - D. Holmes II

29 Jazz - J. Edwards

30 Celtics - K. McCullar

RD 2

31. Toronto Raptors (via Pistons)

Tyler Smith, SF/PF, G League Ignite | Age: 19.5

32. Utah Jazz (via Wizards)

Cam Christie, SG, Minnesota | Age: 18.8

33. Milwaukee Bucks (via Trail Blazers)

Jaylon Tyson, SG/SF, California | Age: 21.4

34. Portland Trail Blazers (via Hornets)

Ryan Dunn, SF/PF, Virginia | Age: 21.3

35. San Antonio Spurs

Terrence Shannon Jr., SG/SF, Illinois | Age: 23.8

36. Indiana Pacers (via Raptors)

A.J. Johnson, SG, Illawarra (Australia) | Age: 19.4

37. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Grizzlies)

Juan Nunez, PG, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany) | Age: 19.9

38. New York Knicks (via Jazz)

Pacome Dadiet, SG/SF, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany) | Age: 18.8

39. Memphis Grizzlies (via Nets)

Nikola Djurisic, SG/SF, Mega MIS (Adriatic League) | Age: 20.2

40. Portland Trail Blazers (via Hawks)

Adem Bona, C, UCLA | Age: 21.1

41. Philadelphia 76ers (via Bulls)

Jonathan Mogbo, PF/C, San Francisco | Age: 22.5

42. Charlotte Hornets (via Rockets)

Ulrich Chomche, PF/C, NBA Academy Showcase (Africa) | Age: 18.4

43. Miami Heat

Harrison Ingram, SF/PF, North Carolina | Age: 21.5

44. Houston Rockets (via Warriors)

Ajay Mitchell, PG, UC Santa Barbara | Age: 21.9

45. Sacramento Kings

Pelle Larsson, SG, Arizona | Age: 23.2

46. LA Clippers (via Pacers)

Jamal Shead, PG, Houston | Age: 21.8

47. Orlando Magic

Melvin Ajinca, SG/SF, Saint Quentin (France) | Age: 19.9

48. San Antonio Spurs (via Lakers)

Izan Almansa, PF/C, G League Ignite | Age: 18.8

49. Indiana Pacers (via Cavaliers)

Dillon Jones, SF/PF, Weber State | Age: 22.5

50. Indiana Pacers (via Pelicans)

Keshad Johnson, PF, Arizona | Age: 22.9

51. Washington Wizards (via Suns)

KJ Simpson, PG, Colorado | Age: 21.8

52. Golden State Warriors (via Bucks)

Bronny James, PG/SG, USC | Age: 19.6

53. Detroit Pistons (via Knicks)

Jalen Bridges, SF, Baylor | Age: 23.0

54. Boston Celtics (via Mavericks)

Oso Ighodaro, PF/C, Marquette | Age: 21.8

55. Los Angeles Lakers (via Clippers)

Ariel Hukporti, C, Melbourne (Australia) | Age: 22.1

56. Denver Nuggets (via Timberwolves)

Isaac Jones, PF/C, Washington State | Age: 23.8

57. Memphis Grizzlies (via Thunder)

Jaylen Wells, SG/SF, Washington State | Age: 20.7

58. Dallas Mavericks (via Celtics)

Antonio Reeves

[Smart2Nesmith43]

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How can you not love that kid ? So hyped he decided to stay at Saint Quentin next year and he'll bring a ton of attention to the league (and selfishly I'll get to see him play live at least once before he leaves for the NBA) like Risacher and Wemby before him.