Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[celticfan42487]

Ainge knows he cant give up everyone for a guy who might leave. Tatum is the guy he isnt parting with unless Davis extended and he wont

That's foolish.

You aren't winning with Tatum. You aren't winning if AD walks.

So why not chance it? Hope that you somehow turn Tatum into an mvp/ stars want to come play with him? I'm not going to intellectualize or rationalize why Danny holding onto Tatum is the right thing to do. Cause it isn't, no matter how much convincing anyone attempts to do. Miss out on Davis, you made a mistake. Idc if it costs Tatum and if it's a one year rental. Tatum won't win an mvp. You need an mvp. You take that risk.

Could still be a negotiating tactic. But still. Not a good idea. It's the Kawhi thing all over again. The raptors did EXACTLY this, and it got them a title.

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You dont chance it because Tatum is already good enough to fill the role as 3rd best player on a championship team and only has a great prognosis to be a solid player in this league.

Your other way leaves us empty of any stars and Danny cany be in a position where hes starting over. If anything, Irving burning him actually helps him see that you cant just trade everyone.

Also Danny is notoriously cheap when it comes to trades. He wins them big for a reason

Was Ainge cheap in the Walker trade?

Was he cheap in the 4 first rounders trade?

Was he cheap in the Irving trade?

He's won trades and lost trades in his time, and probably got very lucky a few offers were not accepted.

But one trade you never lose, EVER, is the one when you trade players that don't matter for an MVP level player.

Because nothing but MVP level players matter in the NBA.

[Green89]

You can't be reactionary based on one rental gone right. Never.

But Danny has tried it the other way and it hasn't worked either. He's had the most assets of any team in the league and if he can't turn them into a title, it's a massive L the organization takes on the chin. His AD rental is the last chance at saving face through all this. Losing Kyrie and NOT getting AD will not get us a title any time soon.

[The Corey's]

That's foolish.

You aren't winning with Tatum. You aren't winning if AD walks.

So why not chance it? Hope that you somehow turn Tatum into an mvp/ stars want to come play with him? I'm not going to intellectualize or rationalize why Danny holding onto Tatum is the right thing to do. Cause it isn't, no matter how much convincing anyone attempts to do. Miss out on Davis, you made a mistake. Idc if it costs Tatum and if it's a one year rental. Tatum won't win an mvp. You need an mvp. You take that risk.

Could still be a negotiating tactic. But still. Not a good idea. It's the Kawhi thing all over again. The raptors did EXACTLY this, and it got them a title.

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You dont chance it because Tatum is already good enough to fill the role as 3rd best player on a championship team and only has a great prognosis to be a solid player in this league.

Your other way leaves us empty of any stars and Danny cany be in a position where hes starting over. If anything, Irving burning him actually helps him see that you cant just trade everyone.

Also Danny is notoriously cheap when it comes to trades. He wins them big for a reason

Was Ainge cheap in the Walker trade?

Was he cheap in the 4 first rounders trade?

Was he cheap in the Irving trade?

He's won trades and lost trades in his time, and probably got very lucky a few offers were not accepted.

But one trade you never lose, EVER, is the one when you trade players that don't matter for an MVP level player.

Because nothing but MVP level players matter in the NBA.

Cheap meaning he gives up the least while gaining the most.

Danny has won just about every trade. That Irving one he have up nothing for what was supposed to be a superstar.

Ainge would of made that Leonard trade without second thoughts but I assume he thought Leonard wasnt gonna re sign here so he didnt give up brown. In hindsight, he really messed that one up if he could or had Leonard for brown and smart.

[jfs1000d]

Trade Tatum for AD
Jaylen for Beal
Bring back Horford

Glad to see you are on board now

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I’m upset seeing the Raps as champs lol. I’m feeling desperate right now.. I’ll have more common sense come tomorrow.

Nah good for them.

Should have been us, but egos and agendas got in the way for our team. Lesson to Ainge is make sure your roster is on the same damn page. We had a title caliber team. We just never got going this year.

I blame Rozier and Brown, Kyrie and ultimately ainge and Brad Stevens for the terrible job they do managing the team.


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[Darthlukey]

That's foolish.

You aren't winning with Tatum. You aren't winning if AD walks.

So why not chance it? Hope that you somehow turn Tatum into an mvp/ stars want to come play with him? I'm not going to intellectualize or rationalize why Danny holding onto Tatum is the right thing to do. Cause it isn't, no matter how much convincing anyone attempts to do. Miss out on Davis, you made a mistake. Idc if it costs Tatum and if it's a one year rental. Tatum won't win an mvp. You need an mvp. You take that risk.

Could still be a negotiating tactic. But still. Not a good idea. It's the Kawhi thing all over again. The raptors did EXACTLY this, and it got them a title.

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You dont chance it because Tatum is already good enough to fill the role as 3rd best player on a championship team and only has a great prognosis to be a solid player in this league.

Your other way leaves us empty of any stars and Danny cany be in a position where hes starting over. If anything, Irving burning him actually helps him see that you cant just trade everyone.

Also Danny is notoriously cheap when it comes to trades. He wins them big for a reason

Was Ainge cheap in the Walker trade?

Was he cheap in the 4 first rounders trade?

Was he cheap in the Irving trade?

He's won trades and lost trades in his time, and probably got very lucky a few offers were not accepted.

But one trade you never lose, EVER, is the one when you trade players that don't matter for an MVP level player.

Because nothing but MVP level players matter in the NBA.

The Sith deal in absolutes. Wow, watching raptors win is reverting me to my nerd persona. To reduce the Celtics roster to a bunch of guys who 'dont matter' is ludicrous. Yes MVP talent beats depth, but not at the expense of common sense and value for assets.

[Jaqua92]

You can't be reactionary based on one rental gone right. Never.

Sure. It's not being reactionary though. It's reinforcing. The opinion was already there prior.

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[Edug27]

Glad to see you are on board now

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I’m upset seeing the Raps as champs lol. I’m feeling desperate right now.. I’ll have more common sense come tomorrow.

Nah good for them.

Should have been us, but egos and agendas got in the way for our team. Lesson to Ainge is make sure your roster is on the same damn page. We had a title caliber team. We just never got going this year.

I blame Rozier and Brown, Kyrie and ultimately ainge and Brad Stevens for the terrible job they do managing the team.


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We wouldn’t have an answer for Kawhi and Raps size anyway. Regardless of egos.

[Jaqua92]

That's foolish.

You aren't winning with Tatum. You aren't winning if AD walks.

So why not chance it? Hope that you somehow turn Tatum into an mvp/ stars want to come play with him? I'm not going to intellectualize or rationalize why Danny holding onto Tatum is the right thing to do. Cause it isn't, no matter how much convincing anyone attempts to do. Miss out on Davis, you made a mistake. Idc if it costs Tatum and if it's a one year rental. Tatum won't win an mvp. You need an mvp. You take that risk.

Could still be a negotiating tactic. But still. Not a good idea. It's the Kawhi thing all over again. The raptors did EXACTLY this, and it got them a title.

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You dont chance it because Tatum is already good enough to fill the role as 3rd best player on a championship team and only has a great prognosis to be a solid player in this league.

Your other way leaves us empty of any stars and Danny cany be in a position where hes starting over. If anything, Irving burning him actually helps him see that you cant just trade everyone.

Also Danny is notoriously cheap when it comes to trades. He wins them big for a reason

Was Ainge cheap in the Walker trade?

Was he cheap in the 4 first rounders trade?

Was he cheap in the Irving trade?

He's won trades and lost trades in his time, and probably got very lucky a few offers were not accepted.

But one trade you never lose, EVER, is the one when you trade players that don't matter for an MVP level player.

Because nothing but MVP level players matter in the NBA.

BINGO. Leaks and reports are that we don't want to trade Tatum. Now everyone is rationalizing why that's the case cause of loyalty to Danny. When he gets it done with Tatum, all these people should be upset. But will they? If they arent, they are just rationalizing now it seems.

Anyway. This is common sense. You don't lose w trade if you land an mvp player. Period.

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[Jaqua92]

If Danny can get it done without Tatum, great! If it's Tatum or bust. You trade Tatum every time

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[MaxwellSmart]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

[Darthlukey]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

[Tyakack]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

It could have.........but they gave themselves a chance by trading for an MVP caliber player and it paid off. All you can do is give yourself a chance. You don't have a chance without a player like leonard on your team.

[Jaqua92]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

Our future is burried if we don't trade for him! Why does no one acknowledge this? We aren't winning anything with Tatum as the guy. And we aren't attracting anyone

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[Froob]

You can't be reactionary based on one rental gone right. Never.

Isn’t it two, now? Anyways they’re all independent of each other but I think AD’s free agency options won’t be great. The biggest problem is fielding a team around him.

Can we give up all of our picks to rewind Hayward’s ally oop attempt?

[Darthlukey]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

Our future is burried if we don't trade for him! Why does no one acknowledge this? We aren't winning anything with Tatum as the guy. And we aren't attracting anyone

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Not discounting your point, but you are talking boom or bust, correct? Aim for a title or tank? Sorry for putting words in your mouth. But if we cough up too much for AD, we dont win this coming season if we cant put a team around him. He leaves, we are left with nothing but a resest. Honestly, I would rather trade the team away for a full tank than pay too much for AD and watch him walk for nothing.

[The Corey's]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

Our future is burried if we don't trade for him! Why does no one acknowledge this? We aren't winning anything with Tatum as the guy. And we aren't attracting anyone

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Give us your trade package for Durant (edits Davis*****) and then our replacement for Irving

Then compare that to this years raps team and tell us if its gonna win.

[Edug27]

You can't be reactionary based on one rental gone right. Never.

Right. Though we are all assuming Kawhi is a one year rental.

[The Corey's]

You can't be reactionary based on one rental gone right. Never.

Isn’t it two, now? Anyways they’re all independent of each other but I think AD’s free agency options won’t be great. The biggest problem is fielding a team around him.

Can we give up all of our picks to rewind Hayward’s ally oop attempt?

I'd be ripped **** if Davis and Irving both bail while Leonard and Paul George hangout in no named cities of mediocre franchises at best.

It would be a huge insult to the celtics legacy and a sad indictment

[Darthlukey]

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

Our future is burried if we don't trade for him! Why does no one acknowledge this? We aren't winning anything with Tatum as the guy. And we aren't attracting anyone

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Give us your trade package for Durant and then our replacement for Irving

Then compare that to this years raps team and tell us if its gonna win.

This is why im keen on Conley at the right price. He is the perfect Kyrie replacement, if we dont have to send any key assets out. He wont make the team a contender, but he will keep them competitive. And if the opportunity comes along, then blow their load on a superstar or similar opportunity.

[Jaqua92]

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

Our future is burried if we don't trade for him! Why does no one acknowledge this? We aren't winning anything with Tatum as the guy. And we aren't attracting anyone

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Not discounting your point, but you are talking boom or bust, correct? Aim for a title or tank? Sorry for putting words in your mouth. But if we cough up too much for AD, we dont win this coming season if we cant put a team around him. He leaves, we are left with nothing but a resest. Honestly, I would rather trade the team away for a full tank than pay too much for AD and watch him walk for nothing.

Of course. Why would we be content to chill out as a 2nd round exit/playoff team?

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