2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[Riverwalk2021]

If OKC loses to the Pacers, Stevens needs to engender a Trade War between OKC and the Spurs for either Brown or White. Play those two off of each other as they both seek dominance within their divisions. I know White is a personal favorite among many, but if one of those clubs offers three Firsts and a good young player for him, I want to wish him well on his new team...

This is a well thought out post. White is the guy who holds the most value imo. A contender doesn’t have to change anything because White adapts so well in any situation. If OKC goes down, they would be morons not to throw a ton of picks the Celtics way to acquire White if they can’t land Giannis. White next to SGA is a perfect fit and White’s shotmaking and clutch play would take OKC over the top. However, trading White ends the Celtics short term window to compete and will demoralize the fanbase and probably Tatum. There’s a point though, you have to sell if the offer gets ridiculous.

Dort + Wallace + 4 good first round picks is probably that line. Other interesting landing spots where the team has enough assets to acquire White are the Spurs, Houston, Golden State, Minny…actually any western conference playoff team lol

[Shak_Celts]

Just read this and figured I'd stick it here.

Montrezl Harrell on his time with Sixers: I hated it

Montrezl Harrell: So like I said, that whole time I experienced with the Sixers? I hated it, bro. I swear I hated it.

And the thing about is, it got even worse because you see when me and Doc had words, and both times he really just discredited me as a player; like, he basically told me in the situation with me of coming with him to the Sixers, I had no other teams that wanted me which was a lie. I could’ve gone to Boston.

The only reason why I didn’t go to Boston is because they basically told me that I have to be comfortable with not playing games and where I was at in my career, I looked at like, Bro, I need to be on the floor to actually prove that I still have something to give to this game and I can still play like it.

I should’ve taken that situation and went to Boston honestly, but they had Al Horford and the young kid that they traded off to… the young kid that had the knee injury with the dreads. What’s his name? Robert Williams. They had him. So in that situation I’m feeling like, That’s tough to say I’ma get DNP’s and y’all already got Al Horford who’s an established vet and using the young fella Rob. That’s kinda tough. I need to be on the floor playing… It was nothing else with them. It was one of those situations where I felt like the amount of games we didn’t know that we might not have played in, that’s tough to bank on that. And then you have them over there “telling” me that I will play 15-18 minutes. Which one would you choose?

https://hoopshype.com/2025/06/12/montrezl-harrell-on-his-time-with-sixers-i-hated-it/

Yeah you choose minutes. I actually couldn’t believe Craig chose us for that reason. The way Brad has talked about it over the years, they have said that to a lot of players. Austin Rivers would have probably had a job if he accepted that.

I watch different player’s podcasts now and then and I have heard them say that some guys aren’t in the league because they won’t accept DNP or few minutes here and there. They said some guys refuse to be mentors and think they still have IT. The NBA is trying to push youth now, it is what it is. I remember someone saying those players are mad at the league for pushing them out, when in reality, players don’t want to accept where they are in their careers.

It must be hard to accept that you don’t have it when your brain is telling you otherwise. Can you blame teams for going with a young guy that may be just as meh as you, when they still have potential and you are what you are tho? Yeah, it’s tough.

[yeleven11]

Celtics reporting from Jake Fischer this morning:

In Boston's case: There was a considerable amount of chatter circulating amongst rival teams during NBA Draft Combine Week in Chicago last month that potential suitors for Kristaps Porziņģis or Jrue Holiday would want some sort of sweetener compensation attached by the Celtics in exchange for their willingness to take back those contracts.

Such mighty talk has begun to fade.

Boston is certainly looking to cut salary to reduce its luxury tax bill and duck under the second apron, but the Celtics are said to be conducting their mid-June business with confidence that they can make deals that bring positive value back to Boston, league sources say.

The Celtics are not operating to date like a team desperate to shed salary. They have also given some rival teams a sense that a sequence of trades could be coming that merely start in the offseason and potentially even continue up to the in-season trade deadline ... such as dealing away Porzingis' $30.7 million contract for a lesser salary in return and then attempting to trim costs again before the February trade buzzer.

That would actually be similar to the chain of events that landed Holiday with the Celtics in the first place, when Portland moved on from players it acquired in the Damian Lillard blockbuster in stages.

Boston is believed to be open to listening to any player on its roster not named Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. I'd put Payton Pritchard and Derrick White right behind those two franchise cornerstones as extremely hard-to-get as well.

The Celtics would likely have to listen to any ultra-aggressive offer for this season's Sixth Man of the Year, but Pritchard is currently projected to shoulder a significant role in Boston's offense for the 2025-26 season, with the Celtics hopeful of remaining competitive in the Eastern Conference even while Tatum is on the mend from his devastating Achilles tear. White, meanwhile, has been so essential to Boston on both sides of the floor that it sounds as though the Celtics would need their version of the offer that blew away Brooklyn and forced the Nets to part with Mikal Bridges to entertain surrendering him.

[playa-hater]

I swear maybe the worst thing that can happen this off. Season is.." We like our guys".

I guess I don't want a whole bunch of smoke with nothing else.

[GoCeltics123]

Celtics reporting from Jake Fischer this morning:

In Boston's case: There was a considerable amount of chatter circulating amongst rival teams during NBA Draft Combine Week in Chicago last month that potential suitors for Kristaps Porziņģis or Jrue Holiday would want some sort of sweetener compensation attached by the Celtics in exchange for their willingness to take back those contracts.

Such mighty talk has begun to fade.

Boston is certainly looking to cut salary to reduce its luxury tax bill and duck under the second apron, but the Celtics are said to be conducting their mid-June business with confidence that they can make deals that bring positive value back to Boston, league sources say.

The Celtics are not operating to date like a team desperate to shed salary. They have also given some rival teams a sense that a sequence of trades could be coming that merely start in the offseason and potentially even continue up to the in-season trade deadline ... such as dealing away Porzingis' $30.7 million contract for a lesser salary in return and then attempting to trim costs again before the February trade buzzer.

That would actually be similar to the chain of events that landed Holiday with the Celtics in the first place, when Portland moved on from players it acquired in the Damian Lillard blockbuster in stages.

Boston is believed to be open to listening to any player on its roster not named Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. I'd put Payton Pritchard and Derrick White right behind those two franchise cornerstones as extremely hard-to-get as well.

The Celtics would likely have to listen to any ultra-aggressive offer for this season's Sixth Man of the Year, but Pritchard is currently projected to shoulder a significant role in Boston's offense for the 2025-26 season, with the Celtics hopeful of remaining competitive in the Eastern Conference even while Tatum is on the mend from his devastating Achilles tear. White, meanwhile, has been so essential to Boston on both sides of the floor that it sounds as though the Celtics would need their version of the offer that blew away Brooklyn and forced the Nets to part with Mikal Bridges to entertain surrendering him.

GMs: We want picks for Jrue and KP!

Brad: Suck my ****

[redslastlaugh]

Thanks for posting this intel!

Celtics reporting from Jake Fischer this morning:

In Boston's case: There was a considerable amount of chatter circulating amongst rival teams during NBA Draft Combine Week in Chicago last month that potential suitors for Kristaps Porziņģis or Jrue Holiday would want some sort of sweetener compensation attached by the Celtics in exchange for their willingness to take back those contracts.

Such mighty talk has begun to fade.

Boston is certainly looking to cut salary to reduce its luxury tax bill and duck under the second apron, but the Celtics are said to be conducting their mid-June business with confidence that they can make deals that bring positive value back to Boston, league sources say.

The Celtics are not operating to date like a team desperate to shed salary. They have also given some rival teams a sense that a sequence of trades could be coming that merely start in the offseason and potentially even continue up to the in-season trade deadline ... such as dealing away Porzingis' $30.7 million contract for a lesser salary in return and then attempting to trim costs again before the February trade buzzer.

That would actually be similar to the chain of events that landed Holiday with the Celtics in the first place, when Portland moved on from players it acquired in the Damian Lillard blockbuster in stages.

Boston is believed to be open to listening to any player on its roster not named Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. I'd put Payton Pritchard and Derrick White right behind those two franchise cornerstones as extremely hard-to-get as well.

The Celtics would likely have to listen to any ultra-aggressive offer for this season's Sixth Man of the Year, but Pritchard is currently projected to shoulder a significant role in Boston's offense for the 2025-26 season, with the Celtics hopeful of remaining competitive in the Eastern Conference even while Tatum is on the mend from his devastating Achilles tear. White, meanwhile, has been so essential to Boston on both sides of the floor that it sounds as though the Celtics would need their version of the offer that blew away Brooklyn and forced the Nets to part with Mikal Bridges to entertain surrendering him.

[Hal14]

I swear maybe the worst thing that can happen this off. Season is.." We like our guys".

I guess I don't want a whole bunch of smoke with nothing else.

The guys who just won the 2024 NBA title, with one of the most dominating reg seasons and postseasons in NBA history.

Nothing wrong with liking those guys.

With that being said, all the rumors point to Jrue, KP and Hauser getting moved so we're certainly looking to shake things up..

[playa-hater]

I swear maybe the worst thing that can happen this off. Season is.." We like our guys".

I guess I don't want a whole bunch of smoke with nothing else.

The guys who just won the 2024 NBA title, with one of the most dominating reg seasons and postseasons in NBA history.

Nothing wrong with liking those guys.

With that being said, all the rumors point to Jrue, KP and Hauser getting moved so we're certainly looking to shake things up..

Yes, but our age has us moving in the wrong direction. We need to make strikes this season. Especially with tatum out. If we do not strike this year, we may have much less value in those players the following.

That and of course, I am bored of this group. I want new shiny toys.

[playa-hater]

Btw shames reporting anything ..true or just speculation. Helps our cause.. It will only help lead to some bidding war perhaps even if it's just speculation.

[GoCeltics123]

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I 100% think Jrue is going to end up in Sacramento

[redslastlaugh]

If OKC loses to the Pacers, Stevens needs to engender a Trade War between OKC and the Spurs for either Brown or White. Play those two off of each other as they both seek dominance within their divisions. I know White is a personal favorite among many, but if one of those clubs offers three Firsts and a good young player for him, I want to wish him well on his new team...

Dort + Wallace + 4 good first round picks is probably that line. Other interesting landing spots where the team has enough assets to acquire White are the Spurs, Houston, Golden State, Minny…actually any western conference playoff team lol

I think OKC is very high on Cason Wallace and doubt they'd be interested in moving him, even for Derrick White.
If OKC loses though, Presti could make an offer of "Dort + stuff" that could definitely be too good for Brad to pass up.

Fanspo says Thunder have 29 future 1st and 2nd round picks

You do wonder though, does Brad want to help OKC, that then we see Derrick in the Finals in two or three years? Or maybe that doesn't matter if Presti comes with the Godfather offer.

[ConstableGeneva]

Some of y'all exaggerate how bad the position Brad and the Celtics are in. They didn't put together a championship roster after Ainge left doing dumb things even amidst the challenges of the new CBA. Yes, Danny picked the Jays and set us up for the future but there wasn't much else after them. Just compare the rosters in 2021 to 2024 when we won the title. Gotta trust that Brad and Mike know what they're doing. I don't imagine us giving up a 1st this off-season to offload salary. If Fischer's Intel is correct, it's likely turning out that way.

I think our path back to the title still hinges on how well Tatum recovers and on Joe's ability to adapt/adjust and learn from the playoff failures.

[yeleven11]

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I 100% think Jrue is going to end up in Sacramento

Yah a 3 team trade with miami where jrue goes to sac and demar goes to miami with duncan robinson’s weird guaranteed contract (only counts as 9.8 until july 8 for team absorbing salary but counts as 19.9 for the team sending it out) coming back to boston sounds like a realistic deal. Question is who gives up draft equity to who? Can we get #20 from miami in this deal?

[Larry_Russell]

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I 100% think Jrue is going to end up in Sacramento

I want Murray in return.

[djFan71]

Jrue to Dallas

Kristaps and Klay Thompson to Orlando (desparately need shooting)

Pope, Harris 2nd from Orlando, 2nd from Boston to Brooklyn

Gafford, Carter Jr, Naji Marshall and Anthony Black to Boston

Very similar to some of mine, but with Black added. I think you would have to send ORL more to get him though. They'll view KP as slight positive (due to health/expiring), Klay as slight negative. WCJ is a starter, but balanced by getting rid of KCP. There's not enough value going to them to include Black for that, imo.

I'd love to work that out though. A future pick or something - but not sure it's enough.

[Larry_Russell]

Jrue to Dallas

Kristaps and Klay Thompson to Orlando (desparately need shooting)

Pope, Harris 2nd from Orlando, 2nd from Boston to Brooklyn

Gafford, Carter Jr, Naji Marshall and Anthony Black to Boston

Very similar to some of mine, but with Black added. I think you would have to send ORL more to get him though. They'll view KP as slight positive (due to health/expiring), Klay as slight negative. WCJ is a starter, but balanced by getting rid of KCP. There's not enough value going to them to include Black for that, imo.

I'd love to work that out though. A future pick or something - but not sure it's enough.

Feel that a pick is deserved for them.

and even though Klay and Kristaps are viewed as "diminished" assets....they excel at what Orlando desparately needs. Shooting.

So a late first or a second seems more than fair.

[djFan71]

Jrue to Dallas

Kristaps and Klay Thompson to Orlando (desparately need shooting)

Pope, Harris 2nd from Orlando, 2nd from Boston to Brooklyn

Gafford, Carter Jr, Naji Marshall and Anthony Black to Boston

Very similar to some of mine, but with Black added. I think you would have to send ORL more to get him though. They'll view KP as slight positive (due to health/expiring), Klay as slight negative. WCJ is a starter, but balanced by getting rid of KCP. There's not enough value going to them to include Black for that, imo.

I'd love to work that out though. A future pick or something - but not sure it's enough.

Feel that a pick is deserved for them.

and even though Klay and Kristaps are viewed as "diminished" assets....they excel at what Orlando desparately needs. Shooting.

So a late first or a second seems more than fair.

Trade is slightly in ORL favor without Black, but he's a really good young prospect so I'd think it would have to be like top 4 protected BOS 27 1st to even get them to consider it. And probably still not enough. But, I'd love that return of all 4 guys and would be willing to pay to make that happen.

Other option is send Gafford to ATL for 22 for 28 swap. Saves more money and gets us higher up in the draft. Roll with WCJ, Luke, Queta.

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I 100% think Jrue is going to end up in Sacramento

I want Murray in return.

I highly doubt sacramento gives up Keegan Murray for Jrue, given the age of both players and the age/contract combo for Jrue, as well as his declining performance, injuries..

And it's not like Jrue would magically make them a contender.

So I doubt Kings would do it.

But you never know..Sacramento has made some pretty bad moves over the years..but they have a new GM now..

[Curmudgeon]

Even if the Kings wanted to do it, no one really wants DeRozan. The Kings are stuck with him. Nice guy, good midrange scorer who doesn't defend well. Not optimal for the modern game.

[GoCeltics123]

If the Heat want DeMar (which is rumored), then the Celtics could take and waive Duncan Robinson's partially guaranteed contract at $9.9 mil. That, along with trading Jrue to Sacramento as the 3rd team, would get the Celtics under the 2nd apron