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Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money"

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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1661 » by FakeScreenName123 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:04 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season.


Are you assuming Smart will be similarly injured every season?


How does him being injured in FEB impact him in the playoffs?

Who is he going to move past on that list of 7 players in front of him?
Irving
Hayward
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Rozier
Baynes
He isn't unless he gets better offensively. Then you factor in Theis who was better than him in the regular season in the end Marcus Smart is you 9th best player and I don't know how that changes.


couple things

1. idk how yer defining 'impact' but i say a good way to 'impact' a game is to be on the floor. Smart was in the top 5 for MPG in playoffs. And it was around the same MPG he was getting in regular season when Kyrie was playing anyway.
2. Baynes is not 'better' or 'more impactful' than Smart. I mean, just look at the $s in the contract. Look at the MPG. Look at how the game is changing - you can't play a big without a 3 in the NBA Finals for more than 20 mpg. I'm not even gonna respond to the Marcus Morris stuff cos that's not a real thing.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA-- 

Post#1662 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:09 pm

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jfs1000d wrote:
tombattor wrote:If he shoots like that, then he'll be a max player.


I think he is a better shooter than his #s, which makes no sense.

He take a lot of late and desperate attempts. I think he also takes low percentage and difficult shots.

His key to improving shooting is continuing to fine-tune his mechanics, and getting better shot selection. I swear he gives away 2 shots a game that has zero chance at going in.




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I'm with you. Well, Smart's shooting is pretty terrible. But I love the guy. He plays top notch D. Can handle and run the offense. Makes big plays. Other than shooting, what's not to love?


But half the argument for why Smart shoots so much is because he gets left open--and has to take the open shots.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1663 » by LobCityRondo2KG » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:10 pm

There are three key RFAs still available like Capela, Parker, and Smart.. Hood is still out there.. I still think he is back on the QO..
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1664 » by tombattor » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:10 pm

sully00 wrote:
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sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season.


Are you assuming Smart will be similarly injured every season?


How does him being injured in FEB impact him in the playoffs?

Who is he going to move past on that list of 7 players in front of him?
Irving
Hayward
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Rozier
Baynes
He isn't unless he gets better offensively. Then you factor in Theis who was better than him in the regular season in the end Marcus Smart is you 9th best player and I don't know how that changes.

Basically what this list tells me is that you hate Marcus Smart and nothing can change your thinking. You were saying he was 7th best player in the playoffs, yet you add Kyrie and Hayward to it. Pretty much twisting stuff around to make your case.

Then Baynes... Theis? What the... yes, you are right. :roll:
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1665 » by tfribs45 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:12 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season. We have 3-4 first round picks next year. How many teams would pay 8-9 best player 15 million per year with 5 potential max salary guys on roster when they have 3-4 picks coming and 2 are likely lottery picks?

Reality is a harsh mistress. What’s best for Smart isn’t what’s best for Celtics so either the market is favorable for the Celtics or he walks. It’s really not personal and his agent is doing a disservice to him to even imply that it could be that way.



thats a bit of a joke. Marcus is our lock down defender, just ask Giannis who covered his a$$ best in the series... Cmon man Cobra is worth the investment especially if your planning on taking out Golden State in the Finals
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1666 » by LobCityRondo2KG » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:34 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season. We have 3-4 first round picks next year. How many teams would pay 8-9 best player 15 million per year with 5 potential max salary guys on roster when they have 3-4 picks coming and 2 are likely lottery picks?

Reality is a harsh mistress. What’s best for Smart isn’t what’s best for Celtics so either the market is favorable for the Celtics or he walks. It’s really not personal and his agent is doing a disservice to him to even imply that it could be that way.



thats a bit of a joke. Marcus is our lock down defender, just ask Giannis who covered his a$$ best in the series... Cmon man Cobra is worth the investment especially if your planning on taking out Golden State in the Finals


Smart was out for more than half that series.. I think Semi did the best on Giannis also..
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1667 » by Big Joke Line » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:37 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season. We have 3-4 first round picks next year. How many teams would pay 8-9 best player 15 million per year with 5 potential max salary guys on roster when they have 3-4 picks coming and 2 are likely lottery picks?

Reality is a harsh mistress. What’s best for Smart isn’t what’s best for Celtics so either the market is favorable for the Celtics or he walks. It’s really not personal and his agent is doing a disservice to him to even imply that it could be that way.



thats a bit of a joke. Marcus is our lock down defender, just ask Giannis who covered his a$$ best in the series... Cmon man Cobra is worth the investment especially if your planning on taking out Golden State in the Finals

Couple things.. Smart didn't really cover Giannis and even if he did he averaged like 25/10/6 (and if he had any semblance of a jumper it would've been more) so he was far from locked down.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1668 » by sam_I_am » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:47 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season. We have 3-4 first round picks next year. How many teams would pay 8-9 best player 15 million per year with 5 potential max salary guys on roster when they have 3-4 picks coming and 2 are likely lottery picks?

Reality is a harsh mistress. What’s best for Smart isn’t what’s best for Celtics so either the market is favorable for the Celtics or he walks. It’s really not personal and his agent is doing a disservice to him to even imply that it could be that way.

He was 7th best player in the playoffs? Behind Tatum, Al, Brown, then who else?


Starting 5 and Morris.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1669 » by Homerclease » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:47 pm

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tombattor wrote:Seriously. What's wrong with people?

Nothing wrong with me. This board is for discussion. Not to lecture people

Well, the wrong is assuming that he's lazy because he's not posting videos of him working out on instagram.

You would have a point if I ever assumed he was lazy, which I didn’t.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1670 » by BoogieTime » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:53 pm

hickfromfrenchlick wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:Anytime Smart has more shots than Tatum it’s bad for the Celtics


Smart is a dimensional bench player with little affect on winning. We will make the pick unspecial anyways


You meant "one-dimensional," you spelled "effect" wrong, your take on Smart's impact reveals someone who didn't watch the playoffs, and your prediction of your garbage team's future performance is biased and naive.

Other than that, A+++ post, would read again.


There is anything on the Celtics roster that isn’t garbage other than Brown/Tatum. Irving/Hayward will never be the same. Horford old. Smart overrated role player, who has no great ‘affect’ on the Celtics or any other team winning anything. Rozier is limited.

The Celtics are overrated garbage who are going down. And your a disrespectful talking about teams with recent pasts with disdain
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1671 » by 3D Chess » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:59 pm

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hickfromfrenchlick wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
Smart is a dimensional bench player with little affect on winning. We will make the pick unspecial anyways


You meant "one-dimensional," you spelled "effect" wrong, your take on Smart's impact reveals someone who didn't watch the playoffs, and your prediction of your garbage team's future performance is biased and naive.

Other than that, A+++ post, would read again.


There is anything on the Celtics roster that isn’t garbage other than Brown/Tatum. Irving/Hayward will never be the same. Horford old. Smart overrated role player, who has no great ‘affect’ on the Celtics or any other team winning anything. Rozier is limited.

The Celtics are overrated garbage who are going down. And your a disrespectful talking about teams with recent pasts with disdain

This is 2003 era ****. Try harder next time.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1672 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:02 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
tombattor wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season. We have 3-4 first round picks next year. How many teams would pay 8-9 best player 15 million per year with 5 potential max salary guys on roster when they have 3-4 picks coming and 2 are likely lottery picks?

Reality is a harsh mistress. What’s best for Smart isn’t what’s best for Celtics so either the market is favorable for the Celtics or he walks. It’s really not personal and his agent is doing a disservice to him to even imply that it could be that way.

He was 7th best player in the playoffs? Behind Tatum, Al, Brown, then who else?


Starting 5 and Morris.

In my opinion Smart was much more impactful than Morris without question and likely Baynes as well
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1673 » by Big Joke Line » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:02 pm

BoogieTime wrote:
hickfromfrenchlick wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
Smart is a dimensional bench player with little affect on winning. We will make the pick unspecial anyways


You meant "one-dimensional," you spelled "effect" wrong, your take on Smart's impact reveals someone who didn't watch the playoffs, and your prediction of your garbage team's future performance is biased and naive.

Other than that, A+++ post, would read again.


There is anything on the Celtics roster that isn’t garbage other than Brown/Tatum. Irving/Hayward will never be the same. Horford old. Smart overrated role player, who has no great ‘affect’ on the Celtics or any other team winning anything. Rozier is limited.

The Celtics are overrated garbage who are going down. And your a disrespectful talking about teams with recent pasts with disdain

Obvious troll is obvious
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1674 » by Big Joke Line » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:04 pm

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tombattor wrote:He was 7th best player in the playoffs? Behind Tatum, Al, Brown, then who else?


Starting 5 and Morris.

In my opinion Smart was much more impactful than Morris without question and likely Baynes as well

Wouldn't have beaten Philly without Baines. Smart probably yes.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1675 » by jeremym480 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:14 pm

BoogieTime wrote:
hickfromfrenchlick wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
Smart is a dimensional bench player with little affect on winning. We will make the pick unspecial anyways


You meant "one-dimensional," you spelled "effect" wrong, your take on Smart's impact reveals someone who didn't watch the playoffs, and your prediction of your garbage team's future performance is biased and naive.

Other than that, A+++ post, would read again.


There is anything on the Celtics roster that isn’t garbage other than Brown/Tatum. Irving/Hayward will never be the same. Horford old. Smart overrated role player, who has no great ‘affect’ on the Celtics or any other team winning anything. Rozier is limited.

The Celtics are overrated garbage who are going down. And your a disrespectful talking about teams with recent pasts with disdain


Hopefully, we get Horford's replacement next off-season with that Top 5 pick that we're getting from your dumpster fire of a team.
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Post#1676 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:15 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:
Starting 5 and Morris.

In my opinion Smart was much more impactful than Morris without question and likely Baynes as well

Wouldn't have beaten Philly without Baines. Smart probably yes.

That can certainly be argued...but big minutes for Larkin and Nader against Philly IDK. I can give you Baynes because of his play on Embiid but Morris was a big negative
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1677 » by Big Joke Line » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:18 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
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brackdan70 wrote:In my opinion Smart was much more impactful than Morris without question and likely Baynes as well

Wouldn't have beaten Philly without Baines. Smart probably yes.

That can certainly be argued...but big minutes for Larkin and Nader against Philly IDK. I can give you Baynes because of his play on Embiid but Morris was a big negative

Yup I agree I said a few posts ago I think they try to upgrade Morris which (if they can) pushes Smart down in the pecking order IMO.
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Post#1678 » by djFan71 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:22 pm

sully00 wrote:
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sam_I_am wrote:Smart was our 7th best player in playoffs and Kyrie and Hayward did not play which means he is our 9th best player or 8th going forward if you assume Morris moves along after this season.


Are you assuming Smart will be similarly injured every season?


How does him being injured in FEB impact him in the playoffs?

Who is he going to move past on that list of 7 players in front of him?
Irving
Hayward
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Rozier
Baynes
He isn't unless he gets better offensively. Then you factor in Theis who was better than him in the regular season in the end Marcus Smart is you 9th best player and I don't know how that changes.

He came back early from a busted thumb and had it taped and obviously hurting still in the playoffs.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1679 » by tombattor » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:22 pm

Big Joke Line wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Starting 5 and Morris.

In my opinion Smart was much more impactful than Morris without question and likely Baynes as well

Wouldn't have beaten Philly without Baines. Smart probably yes.

It seemed like it because you had such a low expectation of him. It's like anytime Scalabrine used to make a play, everyone would love it. Stop with Baynes BS. I like him, but come on now.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#1680 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Big Joke Line wrote:
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Big Joke Line wrote:Wouldn't have beaten Philly without Baines. Smart probably yes.

That can certainly be argued...but big minutes for Larkin and Nader against Philly IDK. I can give you Baynes because of his play on Embiid but Morris was a big negative

Yup I agree I said a few posts ago I think they try to upgrade Morris which (if they can) pushes Smart down in the pecking order IMO.

Man that would be a solid deep team if they could upgrade Morris. Great thing is they don’t really need to.

As far a Smart goes and I probably said the same last year lol, if dude could just make 40% of his shots he would be a huge impact player.
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