Official Live Celtics Draft Night Thread

Afam · Post #1681 » by **Afam** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:37 am

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ThirtyFour · Post #1682 » by **ThirtyFour** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:37 am

Sure glad I tempered my expectations prior to all of this! I mean, after the last two years how could I not?

Anyways, I don't know that Ainge did all the right things but at the same time, the buzz of the draft becomes so hyped up and crazy on draft day that I think it's easy to forget that any of these picks, from #1 to the second round could be busts, be it injury or not being able to translate to the NBA from college, or whatever. So with that being said, did you really want Ainge to gut our treasure chest for unproven commodities when free agency is right around the corner?

A lot of teams said they were willing to trade down in this draft but when it came time to dance, everyone tightened up and kept their picks. It's a lot easier to overvalue your own pick when your are getting calls left and right from other GM's, plus you're under a time constraint while on stage for the NBA world to see, which can lead to more reserved thinking.

I enjoyed watching our team gut it out in the playoffs, but I also knew that it meant a lower draft pick so it was a mixed feeling, I don't really want to be labeled as tank or anti-tank because all that matters is that I'm ALL BOSTON CELTIC. I think a few of you would be embarrassed if posters from other teams were in here reading some of this stuff. CELTIC PRIDE. I sat through the nearly 20 year rebuild and survived as many of you did and even got to watch a championship and some great Celtic playoff basketball for a few years.

Anways, not gonna stop people from voicing how they feel, but really, theres plenty more to come, could be good, could be bad so buckle up.

Cyclical · Post #1683 » by **Cyclical** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:37 am

Just in case this hasn't been posted yet:

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OFWGKTA · Post #1684 » by **OFWGKTA** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:40 am

Afam wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:You're pessimism and world-is-ending philosophy when even the littlest of things go wrong or are even rumored to go wrong is too much sometimes. For example the "Lakers and Kings have framework for Cousins" news the other day had you spewing the same pessimistic **** when the very article that it was from stated the Kings were talking to other teams as well.

Try changing other people's mind, and see how it works out. I'm done responding.

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Afam · Post #1685 » by **Afam** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:45 am

Danny Ainge said that not because Celtics have cap space, doesn't mean they have to use it on the wrong players. He also mentioned that they have a lot of money, and they plan to go after superstars, all stars.

brackdan70 · Post #1686 » by **brackdan70** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:46 am

Jaiteh, Upshaw and Wood undrafted.

BannersOnly · Post #1687 » by **BannersOnly** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:48 am

I'm pretty much done getting pissed anymore at Ainge's plan. I have come to the conclusion that the next 10 years of this franchise will be made or broke by the Brooklyn picks. They will either land us those lucrative Top 5 picks we can use to draft STUDS or trade for STUDS or they will be late lottery to mid 1st rd picks that will most likely bring more KO's, Smart's, Zeller's, Rozier's, Bradley's and Sully's that will do nothing to bring us closer to titles or tickle the pickles of other GM's that Ainge wants to fleece. Ainge has constructed a roster that is too good to land us Top 5 picks with our own draft pick and we're basically fawcked in trying to get true STUDS unless those Brooklyn picks pan out. Ainge has nobody to blame but himself. Why he traded for IT and was okay with making the 8th seed last season is beyond me. We could be sitting here with Winslow right now and the entire fan base would have at least some hope and optimism.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1688 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:55 am

Yeah this is the first draft since 2006 that I feel like was a momentum stopper. That was the year we took Randy Foye and traded him with Lafrentz to get Telfair and Ratliff.. We got Rondo, too, but he was an intriguing prospect and not a difference-maker.. Even in 2005 we got Gerald Green, who slid, and gave some reason for hope. And 2007 had the Ray Allen trade, which made no sense at the time but at least was a move. And there were some sh*t years during the Big Three era, but we had the Big Three to fall back on. This feels like drafting J.R. Giddens (a great athlete), Fab Melo, Lester Hudson and Orien Greene in 2004 instead of Al Jefferson, Tony Allen, Delonte West and Justin Reed. That was a great rebuilding year draft. This is a horrible rebuilding year draft. We really need to luck out in free agency, or Ainge needs to pull some great trades out of his hat (Smart for Noel would be one). The worst thing is that there's no one I would have preferred with our picks- this really was a draft that ended around pick 15, we couldn't trade up and we didn't see anyone slide to 16. Just a horrible year to pick 16th..

And again, with this conference imbalance and teams underachieving.. Miami added Justise Winslow to their core, OKLAHOMA CITY got Cameron Payne, and Denver has Mudiay, Lawson, Harris, Chandler, Gallo, Nurkic AND Faried as rotation players or trade chips.. Orlando has Vucevic, Oladipo, Payton, Gordon, and Hezonja.. Teams better than us or with better collections of assets than us got better. The freaking Thunder, who would've won sixty games if not for injuries, added a better point guard than us, and we only won because we're in a sh*t conference.. It was a horrible year to make the playoffs.. Even picking 11th or 12th would have made a huge difference..

BigTrade92 · Post #1689 » by **BigTrade92** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:57 am

BannersOnly wrote:I'm pretty much done getting pissed anymore at Ainge's plan. I have come to the conclusion that the next 10 years of this franchise will be made or broke by the Brooklyn picks. They will either land us those lucrative Top 5 picks we can use to draft STUDS or trade for STUDS or they will be late lottery to mid 1st rd picks that will most likely bring more KO's, Smart's, Zeller's, Rozier's, Bradley's and Sully's that will do nothing to bring us closer to titles or tickle the pickles of other GM's that Ainge wants to fleece. Ainge has constructed a roster that is too good to land us Top 5 picks with our own draft pick and we're basically fawcked in trying to get true STUDS unless those Brooklyn picks pan out. Ainge has nobody to blame but himself. Why he traded for IT and was okay with making the 8th seed last season is beyond me. We could be sitting here with Winslow right now and the entire fan base would have at least some hope and optimism.

If he wanted Winslow so bad, he could have traded up for him. Just like he could have traded up for the Greek Freak instead of Olynyk.

Getting mad at Ainge is absurd. That roster was terrible, he traded our legitimate BEST players and only got Thomas in return. It's Brad Stevens who got the most out of those guys, just like he did with junk like Jordan Crawford the year prior.

Yes the 76ers have Okafor, Embiid and Noel, but they're still going to be terrible, and unless they get VERY GOOD, VERY QUICK, those guys are bolting the minute they hit Free Agency.

I'll take Danny Ainge as our GM and and the Celtics over being the Sixers with a shiny new toy, but no batteries to use it, any day of the week.

Curmudgeon · Post #1690 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:58 am

What so great about Winslow? I don't see anything special there. I'm actually pleased that Ainge didn't overpay for some 19 year old.

I expect 50 wins next year and a few more the year after. That's my criteria for success, not how many wonder children we get via the Nets picks.

meatball sub · Post #1691 » by **meatball sub** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:59 am

For all you Debbie Downers, ddb has spoken:

ddb wrote:My last post for awhile.....BIG TRADE COMING. Stay tuned.

- from the Global NBA Draft thread that nobody paid attention to.

Let's try not to throw ourselves off any bridges just yet, fellas. There MAY be light at the end of this dark, confusing tunnel of a draft night.

PierceFan4ever · Post #1692 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:02 am

No way 76ers are staying put

OFWGKTA · Post #1693 » by **OFWGKTA** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:03 am

meatball sub wrote:For all you Debbie Downers, ddb has spoken:

ddb wrote:My last post for awhile.....BIG TRADE COMING. Stay tuned.

- from the Global NBA Draft thread that nobody paid attention to.

Let's try not to throw ourselves off any bridges just yet, fellas. There MAY be light at the end of this dark, confusing tunnel of a draft night.

Also, LBF said we were guaranteed a meeting with Love.

Afam · Post #1694 » by **Afam** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:06 am

DDB is the big trade coming from the Celtics ?

Afam · Post #1695 » by **Afam** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:08 am

I'm just saying this is not the time for vague posts. To me a big trade would consist of getting Cousins & Okafor. Maybe Noel.

BigTrade92 · Post #1696 » by **BigTrade92** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:09 am

Curmudgeon wrote:What so great about Winslow? I don't see anything special there. I'm actually pleased that Ainge didn't overpay for some 19 year old.

I expect 50 wins next year and a few more the year after. That's my criteria for success, not how many wonder children we get via the Nets picks.

Seriously. We've already got a 19-year-old project ourselves in James Young. You don't hear Heat fans clamoring that he's going to haunt them for the next decade....

All these Draft Night hot takes are insane to read. If anything, after tonight we put ourselves in position as the #1 team in line for Cousins. The Lakers aren't trading Russell, clearly, as I'm sure Sacramento would have preferred Okafor to Russell, especially since they ended up drafting a Center three picks later.

Smart, Young and a treasure chest of Brooklyn picks will potentially get us Cousins, over an LA offer Clarkson/Randle and.....?

OFWGKTA · Post #1697 » by **OFWGKTA** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:10 am

Afam wrote:DDB is the big trade coming from the Celtics ?

I'm assuming so, I don't think other team's fans on this forum are as aware of his insider status as us. So being so ambiguous and not naming any teams means its gotta involve the Celtics by default.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1698 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:10 am

I could see something with Utah for Favors, but they don't want any of our point guards.. Bradley could be on the way out, maybe..

illmatic24 · Post #1699 » by **illmatic24** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:10 am

Curmudgeon wrote:What so great about Winslow? I don't see anything special there. I'm actually pleased that Ainge didn't overpay for some 19 year old.

I expect 50 wins next year and a few more the year after. That's my criteria for success, not how many wonder children we get via the Nets picks.

How do you not see anything special with Winslow? Almost everyone says he was the steal of the draft. He should be a very good defensive player, he offers toughness and intensity, was a major factor in his team winning a national championship, played for an all time great coach, he's only 19 and very strong which means not only can he play right away but he'll easily transform into a strong NBA body over the years, he's a good offensive player as well. What's not to like other than him needing to work on his shot more?

Who do you consider special from this draft?

Smog · Post #1700 » by **Smog** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:12 am

BannersOnly wrote:I'm pretty much done getting pissed anymore at Ainge's plan. I have come to the conclusion that the next 10 years of this franchise will be made or broke by the Brooklyn picks. They will either land us those lucrative Top 5 picks we can use to draft STUDS or trade for STUDS or they will be late lottery to mid 1st rd picks that will most likely bring more KO's, Smart's, Zeller's, Rozier's, Bradley's and Sully's that will do nothing to bring us closer to titles or tickle the pickles of other GM's that Ainge wants to fleece. Ainge has constructed a roster that is too good to land us Top 5 picks with our own draft pick and we're basically fawcked in trying to get true STUDS unless those Brooklyn picks pan out. Ainge has nobody to blame but himself. Why he traded for IT and was okay with making the 8th seed last season is beyond me. We could be sitting here with Winslow right now and the entire fan base would have at least some hope and optimism.

If I was a Celtics player, I'd hate playing for all of these miserable, spoiled know-it-alls who complain about EVERYTHING. And we wonder why nobody wants to play here.