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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1741 » by Hal14 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:07 pm

fallguy wrote:I love the idea of adding another isolation-oriented wing scorer. LOL.

who said anything about isolation?

the tweet i posted simply says "wing scorer", not "wing isolation scorer"
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1742 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:08 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
The Comedian wrote:They are starting to use Jaylen more like I was hoping. Still would like to see less of him initiating, but this is a step in the right direction.

Read on Twitter
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He is improving at initiating though, which is good.

But that is a complete by product of Ime's lack of system.


Jaylen is turning into a real weapon offensively. A great pair for Tatum. Just need to find that playmaker to sandwich between the 2 of them


I don’t really think he looks any different as an initiator, tbh. Even in January, he’s still basically a 1/1 assist to turnover guy.

That said, I don’t care. I don’t want him doing anything besides the most simple looks for other guys. He’s an elite play finisher, use it more. We don’t need him to be an initiator, the less he does it, the better the offense looks.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1743 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:11 pm

J. Harris
S. Bey
J. Grant
B. Hield
H. Barnes
D. McDermott
Hayward
Kuzma
Washington
Keldon Johnson
McCollum
Gordon
Oubre Jr
Kennard
Dort
THjr
Barton
Powell


Or, you know, try playing more Richardson with the Jays as he is shooting well (40% from deep) Can create plays (was a point guard in highschool and miami) and is a tenacious defender
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1744 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:13 pm

The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
The Comedian wrote:They are starting to use Jaylen more like I was hoping. Still would like to see less of him initiating, but this is a step in the right direction.

Read on Twitter
?s=20



He is improving at initiating though, which is good.

But that is a complete by product of Ime's lack of system.


Jaylen is turning into a real weapon offensively. A great pair for Tatum. Just need to find that playmaker to sandwich between the 2 of them


I don’t really think he looks any different as an initiator, tbh. Even in January, he’s still basically a 1/1 assist to turnover guy.

That said, I don’t care. I don’t want him doing anything besides the most simple looks for other guys. He’s an elite play finisher, use it more. We don’t need him to be an initiator, the less he does it, the better the offense looks.



Agreed.

Nice to know it is there now though, if he attacks and gets closed in on We need him to be able to make that pass out. And that has improved.

I could see, in an ideal world, Brown scoring more PPG than Tatum but Tatum having a more balanced stat line.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1745 » by keevsnick1 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:16 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
The Comedian wrote:They are starting to use Jaylen more like I was hoping. Still would like to see less of him initiating, but this is a step in the right direction.

Read on Twitter
?s=20



He is improving at initiating though, which is good.

But that is a complete by product of Ime's lack of system.


Jaylen is turning into a real weapon offensively. A great pair for Tatum. Just need to find that playmaker to sandwich between the 2 of them


Jaylen month by month:

October/November: 2.2 assist per game
December: 3.2 assists per game
January: 3.7 assists per game

So ya, certainly trending the right direction.

I'd still wouldn't mind a table setting guard, but really the Celtics biggest need is just shooting around Jaylen/Tatum. Ideally you'd get a Haliburton type who can both table set AND shoot, but those guys are hard to find. A Shooting 3/4 would slot in nicely here (*cough* Harrison Barnes *cough*).
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1746 » by GoGreen » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:22 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:

Carlisle ruined him.


so you are saying a coach can ruin a player?? :o :-? :(



Not Ime though. He has a hot wife and he workeed hard for everything.


The whole "do you know who Ime's wife is??" storyline Boston media kept harping on was really weird. Like he's the only guy in sports to have an attractive celebrity spouse
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1747 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:26 pm

GoGreen wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
so you are saying a coach can ruin a player?? :o :-? :(



Not Ime though. He has a hot wife and he workeed hard for everything.


The whole "do you know who Ime's wife is??" storyline Boston media kept harping on was really weird. Like he's the only guy in sports to have an attractive celebrity spouse



That was so cringe. Now I hear about how he was never given anything and he has to earn it all.

Like being born 6foot9 with top in world level of athleticism doesnt help.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1748 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:59 pm

Harrison Barnes is perfect because he is a nice fit with the Jays and if the Celtics pursuit of Beal is real this summer Barnes could be used as a potential piece in that deal.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1749 » by Bohemian » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:05 pm

Per wiretap we are also interested in Jerami Grant. It would be awesome.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1750 » by Slim Charless » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:48 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Read on Twitter




Harrison Barnes


I think my Suns would happily give you 14 ppg Cameron Payne and a fantastic stretch 4 in Dario Saric for Marcus :wink: ....think of the possibilities. Perfect complements to your Jays.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1751 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:51 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Read on Twitter




Harrison Barnes


I think my Suns would happily give you 14 ppg Cameron Payne and a fantastic stretch 4 in Dario Saric for Marcus :wink: ....think of the possibilities. Perfect complements to your Jays.


I don't like Smarts contract at all but even I'd balk at that one.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1752 » by Bohemian » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:57 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Read on Twitter




Harrison Barnes


I think my Suns would happily give you 14 ppg Cameron Payne and a fantastic stretch 4 in Dario Saric for Marcus :wink: ....think of the possibilities. Perfect complements to your Jays.


Not a bad trade at all.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1753 » by winsomme2 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:18 pm

The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
The Comedian wrote:They are starting to use Jaylen more like I was hoping. Still would like to see less of him initiating, but this is a step in the right direction.

Read on Twitter
?s=20



He is improving at initiating though, which is good.

But that is a complete by product of Ime's lack of system.


Jaylen is turning into a real weapon offensively. A great pair for Tatum. Just need to find that playmaker to sandwich between the 2 of them


I don’t really think he looks any different as an initiator, tbh. Even in January, he’s still basically a 1/1 assist to turnover guy.

That said, I don’t care. I don’t want him doing anything besides the most simple looks for other guys. He’s an elite play finisher, use it more. We don’t need him to be an initiator, the less he does it, the better the offense looks.



Would love to see Jaylen in the Point Forward role and start Pritchard at PG but use him more as a two guard for floor spacing.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1754 » by Green89 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:35 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Well, with Turner now off the table, I'm going after Sabonis with Horford, picks and as many expiring contracts and young players as Indiana wants. I'd even take back that terrible deal they gave to the injured T.J. McConnell. And the Pacers might have some interest in hometown hero Langford.

But once again, dealing with that Indiana front office is an exercise in frustration.
.

Indy with Turner off the table probably means there is even less interest from Indy in moving Sabonis.


Reports are they aren't interested in keeping both. No one's going to give good value right now with Turner's foot injury, so they may have no choice but to move Sabonis.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1755 » by Slim Charless » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:38 pm

Bohemian wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Harrison Barnes


I think my Suns would happily give you 14 ppg Cameron Payne and a fantastic stretch 4 in Dario Saric for Marcus :wink: ....think of the possibilities. Perfect complements to your Jays.


Not a bad trade at all.


I'd love Smart on the Suns as I think we'll need another perimeter defender when we match up against the Dubs pair or even Utah with Donavan/Conley. Mikal Bridges can't do everything out there.

I'd be shocked if you guys traded him. I was mostly joking in my last post but I'd happily do that (obviously) and would throw Jalen Smith into the deal to boot.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1756 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:40 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
Bohemian wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
I think my Suns would happily give you 14 ppg Cameron Payne and a fantastic stretch 4 in Dario Saric for Marcus :wink: ....think of the possibilities. Perfect complements to your Jays.


Not a bad trade at all.


I'd love Smart on the Suns as I think we'll need another perimeter defender when we match up against the Dubs pair or even Utah with Donavan/Conley. Mikal Bridges can't do everything out there.

I'd be shocked if you guys traded him. I was mostly joking in my last post but I'd happily do that (obviously) and would throw Jalen Smith into the deal to boot.

Yeah the Celtics aren't going to trade Smart by himself. Whole point of extending him was to make trades for higher-salary players easier.

Now, Schroder to PHX...
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1757 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:43 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:

He is improving at initiating though, which is good.

But that is a complete by product of Ime's lack of system.


Jaylen is turning into a real weapon offensively. A great pair for Tatum. Just need to find that playmaker to sandwich between the 2 of them


I don’t really think he looks any different as an initiator, tbh. Even in January, he’s still basically a 1/1 assist to turnover guy.

That said, I don’t care. I don’t want him doing anything besides the most simple looks for other guys. He’s an elite play finisher, use it more. We don’t need him to be an initiator, the less he does it, the better the offense looks.



Would love to see Jaylen in the Point Forward role and start Pritchard at PG but use him more as a two guard for floor spacing.


I want to see Jaylen handling the ball less, not more. Dude has more turnovers than assists, I’d rather put him in the best situation to succeed. He’s a great player finisher, capitalize on that.

The Celtics seem to agree, as they’re looking for a playmaker.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1758 » by Marvel » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:53 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:

He is improving at initiating though, which is good.

But that is a complete by product of Ime's lack of system.


Jaylen is turning into a real weapon offensively. A great pair for Tatum. Just need to find that playmaker to sandwich between the 2 of them


I don’t really think he looks any different as an initiator, tbh. Even in January, he’s still basically a 1/1 assist to turnover guy.

That said, I don’t care. I don’t want him doing anything besides the most simple looks for other guys. He’s an elite play finisher, use it more. We don’t need him to be an initiator, the less he does it, the better the offense looks.



Would love to see Jaylen in the Point Forward role and start Pritchard at PG but use him more as a two guard for floor spacing.

That would be terrible for our offense and Jaylen. He's not that guy.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1759 » by canman1971 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:21 pm

Marvel wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
I don’t really think he looks any different as an initiator, tbh. Even in January, he’s still basically a 1/1 assist to turnover guy.

That said, I don’t care. I don’t want him doing anything besides the most simple looks for other guys. He’s an elite play finisher, use it more. We don’t need him to be an initiator, the less he does it, the better the offense looks.



Would love to see Jaylen in the Point Forward role and start Pritchard at PG but use him more as a two guard for floor spacing.

That would be terrible for our offense and Jaylen. He's not that guy.

I don't think you want a point forward with more turnovers than assists. Doesn't seem very wise.
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