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Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason)

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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1761 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon May 22, 2023 9:27 am

Darthlukey wrote:
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Curmudgeon wrote:Tatum White and Smart are keepers. Everyone else should be on the block, starting with Brown.


I think Smart needs to go. I'll be honest with you, he's not been chucking too much, but I still feel as if we shouldn't pay him the next contract, and we need more reliable shooter at PG. I would slide White in there. Trade Smart and maybe a pick for whatever capable player we can get.
Trade Brown to POR for Simmons and 3.
Trade 3/Simmons for Bridges/O'neal.
Get rid of Horfie.
Find a way to trade for Walker Kessler from Utah(our boy Danny).
go with:

White
Bridges
Tatum
PF
Kessler

Assuming you mean simons, rumours are brooklyn has no interest in 3 and simons for bridges


Were there rumors about it or what?
Brown/Smart/whoever for Siakam/OG Anunoby?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1762 » by itrsteve » Mon May 22, 2023 9:52 am

Tatum and Rob are safe. Everybody else is fair game.

High on keeping Brogdon, White and Pritchard but not married to any for the right move.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1763 » by Curmudgeon » Mon May 22, 2023 10:11 am

Really, enough with the nibbling around the edges and firing the coach. This team needs major restructuring because it doesn't play team basketball. It needs players who know how to pass the ball, , like the ones in Golden State, Miami and Denver. Hero ball may sell jerseys, but it won't win championships.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1764 » by Darthlukey » Mon May 22, 2023 10:14 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
I think Smart needs to go. I'll be honest with you, he's not been chucking too much, but I still feel as if we shouldn't pay him the next contract, and we need more reliable shooter at PG. I would slide White in there. Trade Smart and maybe a pick for whatever capable player we can get.
Trade Brown to POR for Simmons and 3.
Trade 3/Simmons for Bridges/O'neal.
Get rid of Horfie.
Find a way to trade for Walker Kessler from Utah(our boy Danny).
go with:

White
Bridges
Tatum
PF
Kessler

Assuming you mean simons, rumours are brooklyn has no interest in 3 and simons for bridges


Were there rumors about it or what?
Brown/Smart/whoever for Siakam/OG Anunoby?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271639/Nets-Not-Interested-In-Trading-Mikal-Bridges-To-Blazers-For-No-3-Pick
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1765 » by chrisab123 » Mon May 22, 2023 10:43 am

Real easy fix to all of this is to do the following trade

Toronto gets Jaylen Smart and Grant (s&t)

Boston gets Siakam OG and FVV (S&T)

Then hopefully hire Nick Nurse.

New lineup

FVV
OG
Tatum
Siakam
Rob
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1766 » by Ben-N1ce » Mon May 22, 2023 10:48 am

chrisab123 wrote:Real easy fix to all of this is to do the following trade

Toronto gets Jaylen Smart and Grant (s&t)

Boston gets Siakam OG and FVV (S&T)

Then hopefully hire Nick Nurse.

New lineup

FVV
OG
Tatum
Siakam
Rob

That will never happen but thats a crazy lineup on both ends although FVV was not good on offense this year.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1767 » by chrisab123 » Mon May 22, 2023 11:02 am

Ben-N1ce wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:Real easy fix to all of this is to do the following trade

Toronto gets Jaylen Smart and Grant (s&t)

Boston gets Siakam OG and FVV (S&T)

Then hopefully hire Nick Nurse.

New lineup

FVV
OG
Tatum
Siakam
Rob

That will never happen but thats a crazy lineup on both ends although FVV was not good on offense this year.


Probably a 90% chance it never happens. But...that Siakam contract is tough for a team that might end up rebuilding as currently constructed. Brown gives them a #1 option that they don't have. Not that hes a true number 1 but still an upgrade. Brown plays next to Barnes and Smart and the Raps can then resign Poetl and throw whoever at the 4.

Celtics don't have the balls to do it though
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1768 » by Fierce1 » Mon May 22, 2023 11:15 am

I don't think Brad has the guts to trade Jaylen.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1769 » by Fierce1 » Mon May 22, 2023 11:17 am

Knowing the track record of this Celtic owners, Cs will most likely run it back with a new coach.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1770 » by chrisab123 » Mon May 22, 2023 11:31 am

I wonder if the Clippers would entertain a deal for Kawai?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1771 » by Celts17Pride » Mon May 22, 2023 11:33 am

Fierce1 wrote:I don't think Brad has the guts to trade Jaylen.

Probably because it makes no sense
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1772 » by Fierce1 » Mon May 22, 2023 11:35 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I don't think Brad has the guts to trade Jaylen.

Probably because it makes no sense

Yeah, I think this group will be given until 2025 then start making changes in 2025-26.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1773 » by Cricket23 » Mon May 22, 2023 12:34 pm

Boston is in a fairly unique position in that they have a guy going into his prime that they are basically forced to pay the supermax, even though he's not quite worth it. Perhaps they could use it as an opportunity. This offseason, maybe they could trade one of the guards along with however many picks they have that are available and needed, and get themselves a starting forward. Teams don't want to trade all of their picks like that, but my thinking is that they either construct a dominant team, or they replenish the picks in a year or 2 by trading Brown, hopefully for a Donovan Mitchell type package. The guard I would trade is Brogdon who has good value after having an award winning and healthy year. I see him being healthy this past year as fools good, and I know everyone gets an erection over the way he presents himself, but I'm not a big fan. Surprisingly, he's not an especially smart player or decision maker. He's a solid bucket getter, but those points can be replaced by whoever comes back in trade. The obvious dream target is Bridges.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1774 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Mon May 22, 2023 12:40 pm

Trae Young
De'andre Hunter
For
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1775 » by BleedGreen1989 » Mon May 22, 2023 12:47 pm

WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Trae Young
De'andre Hunter
For
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart


You're kidding? I literally just posted this exactly on the trade board minutes ago. Too funny...
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1776 » by hugepatsfan » Mon May 22, 2023 12:47 pm

Cricket23 wrote:Boston is in a fairly unique position in that they have a guy going into his prime that they are basically forced to pay the supermax, even though he's not quite worth it. Perhaps they could use it as an opportunity. This offseason, maybe they could trade one of the guards along with however many picks they have that are available and needed, and get themselves a starting forward. Teams don't want to trade all of their picks like that, but my thinking is that they either construct a dominant team, or they replenish the picks in a year or 2 by trading Brown, hopefully for a Donovan Mitchell type package. The guard I would trade is Brogdon who has good value after having an award winning and healthy year. I see him being healthy this past year as fools good, and I know everyone gets an erection over the way he presents himself, but I'm not a big fan. Surprisingly, he's not an especially smart player or decision maker. He's a solid bucket getter, but those points can be replaced by whoever comes back in trade. The obvious dream target is Bridges.


Fully agree with moving a guard for a forward. Add picks as needed depending on the guy. I’ve posted on the trade board for instance and Derrick White for Finney-Smith straight up is considered fair. White plus picks for OG got lukewarm acknowledgment as something they could possibly work. Just for examples.

I’d really rather trade White or Smart than Brogdon though. It’s just about diversification of skill set. I think it’s really important that when one or both of Tatum or Brown are sitting you still have someone who can be a primary scoring option type. Smart and White are much more duplicative than Brogdon. He checks boxes on the team that no one else does.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1777 » by Curmudgeon » Mon May 22, 2023 12:55 pm

So Smart is out there last night playing his tail off with the scrubs, even after the game is lost, and he's the one that people want to trade? OK, good luck with that if you want to win a championship.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1778 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon May 22, 2023 12:59 pm

WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Trae Young
De'andre Hunter
For
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart


If this is going to be the level of suggestions might as well block the thread.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1779 » by BleedGreen1989 » Mon May 22, 2023 1:03 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Trae Young
De'andre Hunter
For
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart


If this is going to be the level of suggestions might as well block the thread.


Ha! Trading out a fan favorite like Smart for a long hated guy like Trae wouldn't cause any waves, right?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1780 » by Celticsfan100 » Mon May 22, 2023 1:06 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Trae Young
De'andre Hunter
For
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart


If this is going to be the level of suggestions might as well block the thread.


Ha! Trading out a fan favorite like Smart for a long hated guy like Trae wouldn't cause any waves, right?


I do not want to go back to getting short point guards who can’t play defense. Remember what the Cavs did to us in the playoffs switching on Isiah Thomas. And how bad the defense was with Kemba

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