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Post#1901 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:08 pm

If lonzo wants the Knicks- klutch probably wants the Knicks also and his dad has really taken a back seat in lonzo’s career the last 24 months but if they want New York they’ll go on a media campaign bashing us. Lavar just **** on the pels lol

Not sure I’d risk it tho I do think he’d be great here
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Post#1902 » by djFan71 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:14 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:If lonzo wants the Knicks- klutch probably wants the Knicks also and his dad has really taken a back seat in lonzo’s career the last 24 months but if they want New York they’ll go on a media campaign bashing us. Lavar just **** on the pels lol

Not sure I’d risk it tho I do think he’d be great here

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Post#1903 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:17 pm

I’d trade for Lonzo only because it would mean that some of the people on this board would now have a voice (and a loud one at that!) in Lavar Ball. He wouldn’t be afraid to criticize Brad Stevens, which apparently is a taboo thing to do if you work for Boston media. Lol
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Post#1904 » by JHTruth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:19 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:Wanamaker has fallen out of the rotation in Golden State. I'm sure they'd be happy to dump him. :)


Teague for Wana straight up
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Post#1905 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:19 pm

If the Knicks offer Quickley, we have no way to beat the offer. We have no way to get him and we can't afford to keep him without trading Kemba. We need to get f*cking lucky this deadline.
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Post#1906 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:20 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:I’d trade for Lonzo only because it would mean that some of the people on this board would now have a voice (and a loud one at that!) in Lavar Ball. He wouldn’t be afraid to criticize Brad Stevens, which apparently is a taboo thing to do if you work for Boston media. Lol


Yea I mean he’d be great here but can’t u just see lavar “lonzo’s a star he deserves to be in Broadway....man liiiiiisten Boston can’t handle no big baller like zo- kyrie left, Hayward left, Boston ain’t ready for my son puhleassseeee, zo would be the best celtic they ever had I’m not scared to say it, brad stevens can’t tell zo nothing”
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Post#1907 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:24 pm

Seriously, I'd be reluctant to offer much in trade for an impending RFA with uneven play and a family talent for hype.
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Post#1908 » by CeltsfaninDC » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:24 pm

Bar Fight wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yegmcrl4

Who says no? :D

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Post#1909 » by JHTruth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:24 pm

Poor Wanamaker. GS fans s****** all over him all year. They just don't appreciate him like we did
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Post#1910 » by JediMasterRevan » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:26 pm

TommyForever wrote:Adding Lonzo to Jays, Smart, Rob core would be quite pimp.


Ideal

then just ride out the season, let the young guys grow, look to improve with TPE in offseason.
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Post#1911 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:27 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:I’d trade for Lonzo only because it would mean that some of the people on this board would now have a voice (and a loud one at that!) in Lavar Ball. He wouldn’t be afraid to criticize Brad Stevens, which apparently is a taboo thing to do if you work for Boston media. Lol


Yea I mean he’d be great here but can’t u just see lavar “lonzo’s a star he deserves to be in Broadway....man liiiiiisten Boston can’t handle no big baller like zo- kyrie left, Hayward left, Boston ain’t ready for my son puhleassseeee, zo would be the best celtic they ever had I’m not scared to say it, brad stevens can’t tell zo nothing”


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The general board thinks we should fire Stevens and Ainge to "fix" the team, and "BrooklynDynasty" says Kyrie left, Hayward left, Horford left, and there's something wrong with the "culture" :nonono:
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Post#1912 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:34 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:I'd take Olynyk in a second. He could show the rest of the roster how to only take layups and threes. Thompson for Olynyk, make it happen.


Oh yeah easy. KO is better than Theis folks

Not better than Theis, but definitely has a skillset that this team is missing.


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Post#1913 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:46 pm

Even this one can't tame the Circus that is called the Celtics.



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Post#1914 » by Dogen » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:51 pm

I was hoping we’d get Halliburton in the draft as a good compliment to the Jays, but Ball would be a consolation prize.

Not sure if it’s that he hates NO the city, or the team, or maybe his role, or Stan, but in any case Papa Ball mace have just knocked over the first domino.

He’d be great at the right price but let’s face it, if he wants NY and they want him that’s the likely outcome. Danny’s not going to get into a bidding war.
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Post#1915 » by soxfan2003 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:52 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:Seriously, I'd be reluctant to offer much in trade for an impending RFA with uneven play and a family talent for hype.


For the right price, I'd like Lonzo added to the team but it kind of only makes sense if the Celtics get very good offers for Smart and Brown and trade them both as a part of a rebuilding plan which Ainge/Wyc/Stevens are not interested in doing.

And come to terms with Ball on an extension before the trade. Not sure if this is even legal.

In other words, it isn't happening. Celtics are risk averse and do not want to take 3 or 4 (more) steps back even if its the most likely way to move 6 or 7 steps forward. Team has already obviously taken a few steps back this year but it wasn't really intentionally.

But starting more of a rebuild with Tatum/Ball and a few youngsters like Williams/Nesmith and tons of picks appears to be a better course of action than the Celtics current trajectory.

The odds of winning it all with Kemba Walker on the team at max salary and no great big are just very remote. The question is the strength the Celtics emerge post Kemba Walker.

Teams best chance may be to trade Brown/Smart for picks -- I like both players but Celtics right now are stuck in the middle -- and give Ainge (or better yet Sam Hinkie) a better chance to build via the draft and free agency. I realize Hinkie has gone into private sector but perhaps he can be lured back.

Unlike you and many others I am not necessarily impressed with EC Finals appearances. I really think 81-82, 82-83, 2010-11 (until Shaq got injured) Celtics were much closer to a championship than these Stevens coached EC Finals participants have been. The Celtics under Stevens in the EC Finals haven't been narrowly losing to the NBA champion. They have usually been much further away than that. I am not even blaming Brad Stevens for that but I think its just an honest reality check of where the Celtics have been if the goal is truly to win another championship banner.
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Post#1916 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:58 pm

It can't be fixed unless the J's start playing team basketball-- not by Ainge, not by Stevens, not by anyone. If they fire Stevens he'll have another job in 15 minutes. How would you like to see him coaching Atlanta or Orlando and kicking our teeth in 4-5 times a year?
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Post#1917 » by Justin33 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:10 am

Should be seller's This much is clear
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Post#1918 » by robdog_5 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:11 am

Let's go nuclear....

Kemba/Romeo and 2nd for Horford/Hill
Brown/Pritchard 1st for Beal
Theis to Nuggets for 2 2nds
Neismith and 1st for Lonzo (TPE)
Thompson and a 2 for Bjelica
2nd and Carson (Kanter TPE) for Daniel House

Horford/Rob
Tatum/Bjeliza/Grant
Beal/House
Smart/Javonte
Lonzo/Hill
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Post#1919 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:15 am

Hoping for a starting 5 of Smart, Brown, Tatum, Collins and R. Williams in a few weeks.

Considering Kemba's healthy, but will likely choke in the playoffs, now is the time to deal him.
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Post#1920 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:28 am

If we wanted to hedge our bets and trade for now and future...here is a 5 team trade (because we all know they're likely and happen all the time).

https://tradenba.com/trades/hBwPXgY75

BOS: Lonzo Ball, Wood, Ross, Iguodala
MIA: Oladipo, TT
ORL: Walker, Bledsoe
NOP: Wall, Nunn, BOS 2023 FRP
HOU: Fultz, Reddick, Olynyk, Fournier, BOS 2025 FRP

Boston gets a more suitable PG in style and age for Tatum/Brown, a promising young PF and bench vets with scoring.
Miami gets an SG in prime age and a good defensive backup centre.
Orlando gets a more experienced and better PG combo without losing their frontcourt.
New Orleans gets PGs of better fit (debatable) and out of having to pay Ball, Bledsoe and Reddick and a FRP.
Houston get Fultz who is young and started to show something on a decent long term contract, a bunch of expiring salaries and a FRP.

Trade/cut Edwards/Green/Teague
Get cheap backup centre banger type like Baynes

Ball/Brown/Tatum/Wood/R.Williams
Smart/Ross/Iguodala/Ojeleye/Theis
PP/Langford/Nesmith/G.Williams/Baynes

Waters/Fall

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