KG and Pierce to Brooklyn?

[cellar-door]

none of this will happen.....will be a boring night.

Won't happen until July 10 anyway, the drop in salary for Pierce and KG is needed to make the salaries match.

[GreenMachine]

none of this will happen.....will be a boring night.

At the very least we will be welcoming a new member of the family... so that is exciting. I have my "Welcome to The Celtics Ricky Ledo" Thread all ready to post...

[MaxwellSmart]

I just remember how BORING last year's draft was.....SNOOZEFEST 2012.

[BigTrade92]

Why do we care? We are not winning it all in the next 2 years... and by the time we are ready to really compete... PP and KG will be retired.

Are there better offers? You say this like you know this... but you don't. There are very few teams that would be willing to take on both of them (for $ reasons) and sending PP with KG is a big part of convincing KG to wave his no-trade clause...

I could care less if there are better offers. I'd rather see Pierce and Garnett retire in green before they're send to the Nets and waste their final years there. The same thing that applies to the DeAndre Jordan/Clippers deal applies to this proposed deal as well. If we're not getting value back, then it's not worth it.

You are not making any sense. Obviously if DA doesn't think we are getting value back, then it's not worth it. What does that have to do with trading to a division rival OR that fact that you claim there are better offers out there when you obviously don't know that? And you SHOULD care if there are better offers if you are so concerned (and rightfully so) about getting "value" back. So... basically... you are not making any sense.

I say there are better offers out there, because the reported "rumors" have said so. Pierce to the Cavs for two 2nd round picks and a TPE is better then the Nets trade.

Heck, the DeAndre Jordan for Garnett trade is better then anything the Nets can offer. If we're taking back the contract of Wallace, I'd rather take Jordan and his contract, as at least he has upside and size. Wallace is past his prime and headed for a downward spiral as shown this year.

Does that make sense to you?

[Captain_Caveman]

Maybe I'm missing something but how does Wallace at 10 Mil have value? Lots of teams looking for a guy that averaged 7.7 / 4.6 and shot sub 40% last year?

I guess they are thinking maybe we let him play next year and he has a stronger season and some contender will want him later. Idk..

Not saying we would get lottery picks for dude, but I don't think he is some major albatross - especially if we shed Terry or Lee in the process? And 3 Nets picks, in 2014, 2016 and 2018? For guys about to retire?

It would provide us with the assets that put a lot of options on the table going forward.

[Justin33]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m

Celtics and Nets continue to make significant progress on parameters of a Garnett-Pierce deal, sources in talks tell Y! Sports.

[BRUNiNHO91]

none of this will happen.....will be a boring night.

Agreed. As usual..

[GreenMachine]

I say there are better offers out there, because the reported "rumors" have said so. Pierce to the Cavs for two 2nd round picks and a TPE is better then the Nets trade.

Heck, the DeAndre Jordan for Garnett trade is better then anything the Nets can offer. If we're taking back the contract of Wallace, I'd rather take Jordan and his contract, as at least he has upside and size. Wallace is past his prime and headed for a downward spiral as shown this year.

Does that make sense to you?

Sure, that makes sense. But A) if the Cavs deal was really an option... it would happen. I am guessing PP said "Hell No" and the Cavs lost interest. And obviously the LAC deal is off the table... but you also indicated that you din't think that was value coming back either, or maybe I misunderstood your original post. Regardless, those deals do not exist right now, so I'm not sure how you can say there are better deals out there. ANYWAY... I trust DA to shake the trees and if there are better deals out there... he will make them.

Enjoy the draft!

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

I just got on this board now, and saw the Nets Rumors. Here's my take

1. Nets don't have enough to offer. Need to bring in a third team to make it pallet-able enough for the C's

2. The chances of KG waiving his no trade clause is very low, especially this early. LA was a special case. The NBA blocked it.

3. I believe in my heart of hearts that KG still wants to play? But under what conditions? That's the question only he can answer. Does he want to stay in Boston with the rebuild, knowing that the C's aren't going to compete next year?
My guess on this matter is that it will eventually hit him and he'd rather compete for a championship next year than stay with the C's who will most likely be without Paul Pierce and definitely Doc Rivers. Does KG come back to that? I don't think so. I think the circumstances are going to change in a little bit of time.

[Afam]

Pierce and Kg are goners. Didn't people watch the ainge press conference when he was asked are pierce and Kg coming back. His answer to that question made it official to me that both are goners.

[Frank Lucas]

Too many rumors mean NOTHING is going to happen. I get the sense from listening to one of Doc Rivers interviews that Danny Ainge can trade away Pierce and KG or keep them. It all about making the right trade. Seem like Danny Ainge isn't going to make a trade just to trade. I think this BK rumor is more from their side. The one thing that give me cause to pause is that Wojo is in on this and he's been pretty solid with his Celtics intel.

[2Mas]

Honestly, I ain't a huge fan of the Nets, but Deron/Pierce/KG/Lopez/Average Joe should be at least good enough to go toe-to-toe with Miami and that's good enough for me.

But why do we want to help our division rival form a super-team?

There's better offers then the junk Brooklyn is offering.

Why do we care? We are not winning it all in the next 2 years... and by the time we are ready to really compete... PP and KG will be retired.

Are there better offers? You say this like you know this... but you don't. There are very few teams that would be willing to take on both of them (for $ reasons) and sending PP with KG is a big part of convincing KG to wave his no-trade clause...

I'd take Jefferson, Biedris, Ezeli & two 1st's for Pierce & Garnett anyday. We don't get 3 1st's but we're getting $20 mil off the books & a solid back up center. PP & KG have a better chance cause A. They live in Cali & B. Mark Jackson is the man. & C. Warriors have more upside than BKN.

Gsw looks like -- Curry-Thompson-Pierce-Lee-Garnett-Jack-Rush-Barnes-Bogut.. That's an easy favorite.

Then throw Bass & Terry to BKN for Hump?! Whynot?

Bos after next year looks like -- Rondo-Bradley-Green-Sully-Ezeli-Lee-Melo W/ a TON of money for Free Agency & a top 10pick (probably).

Not saying the GSW is on the table, but why in the world would GSW NOT do that you know? Give up 2 scrubs for exactly what they need.

[Justin33]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

Boston had raised the Garnett-Pierce package with a Western Conference team, but very few places, if any, would go all-in like Nets on this.

[The Corey's]

I guess the only way I'd do this deal if its 3 unprotected picks alternating starting in like 2017/18

They won't do it and we just gonna hand them a golden opertunity. I just don't see how it can work.

[GreenMachine]

Not saying we would get lottery picks for dude, but I don't think he is some major albatross - especially if we shed Terry or Lee in the process? And 3 Nets picks, in 2014, 2016 and 2018? For guys about to retire?

It would provide us with the assets that put a lot of options on the table going forward.

Captain! I can't believe you like (or at the least are "ok" with) with deal... 3 years of Wallace is better then 2 years of Jordan? (Forget I asked that... I Do Not want to debate it...)

Anyway... I am starting to warm up to this. If we can loose Lee or Terry in the deal... We take on Wallace and maybe he has a better year and we can trade him at the deadline. 10 Mil really isn't that much in the NBA these days. Even if he doesn't pick it up... 2 years from now he will be an expiring. My only real issue is it hurts our FA next summer... but obviously DA knows that and knows what he is doing...

[PetroNet]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 7m
Celtics and Nets continue to make significant progress on parameters of a Garnett-Pierce deal, sources in talks tell Y! Sports.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 7m
The teams won't seek approval of Garnett to waive his no-trade clause "until the deal is agreed upon," one source in talks tells Y!

this could have some legs

[2Mas]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

Boston had raised the Garnett-Pierce package with a Western Conference team, but very few places, if any, would go all-in like Nets on this.

How are they going all in? Hump is a scrub, Wallace is TERRIBLE & his $ is even worse. 3 1sts is nice though.

[jfs1000d]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

Boston had raised the Garnett-Pierce package with a Western Conference team, but very few places, if any, would go all-in like Nets on this.

Hmm. $25 million in salary to, where out west?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

Boston had raised the Garnett-Pierce package with a Western Conference team, but very few places, if any, would go all-in like Nets on this.

Humphries, Wallace & late first rounders = "all-in"

[Justin33]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m

Boston had raised the Garnett-Pierce package with a Western Conference team, but very few places, if any, would go all-in like Nets on this.

Hmm. $25 million in salary to, where out west?

SAS maybe