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Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#301 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:47 pm

RodyTur10 wrote:
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Hes waiting on K to retire.


It’s his dream job, and it’s not that far off from happening.


Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


Stevens is soft, he just isn't made for this game.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#302 » by Feed Your Head » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
It’s his dream job, and it’s not that far off from happening.


Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


Stevens is soft, he just isn't made for this game.


LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:[url][/url]
Stevens is year 2 of 6 in his contract. Could be a few years before he leaves this team


He will be back coaching in college before that contract is up.

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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#303 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:54 pm

The Comedian wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
It’s his dream job, and it’s not that far off from happening.


Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


I understand the allure of coaching college, kids are more willing to soak up your teaching, the atmosphere is awesome, and recruiting is cool.


In college, coaches are the system.

In the NBA, stars are the system.

I get why Brad would want to return.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#304 » by Feed Your Head » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:56 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:
Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


I understand the allure of coaching college, kids are more willing to soak up your teaching, the atmosphere is awesome, and recruiting is cool.


In college, coaches are the system.

In the NBA, stars are the system.

I get why Brad would want to return.


Brad is an incredible person, the players all like him. I’d love him to be a family member, I just don’t think he is a championship coach in today’s nba.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#305 » by GoGreen » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:59 pm

This is not a Brad thing imo. Evey fanbase on the planet wants to just go at the coach when their teams aren't playing well.

Rotations, minutes, being hard or soft on your guys, running plays, blah blah blah. This is all small potatoes. Not that Brad is free from criticism, I just think he doesn't deserve most of the blame.

I think the truth is we're not doing better than Brad. He'd be scooped up in a heartbeat by another team.

This roster is abysmal. Atrocious. Awful. Tatum and Brown have to carry the load every game and they're showing frustration because of it, i think. This falls on Danny. He gets a free pass among many fans and it needs to stop. He has really botched his draft picks and constructed a roster of back-end guys and g-leaguers.

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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#306 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:00 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
It’s his dream job, and it’s not that far off from happening.


Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


Stevens is soft, he just isn't made for this game.


The big tell is his complete refusal to have former players on his staff.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#307 » by robdog_5 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:06 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:
Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


Stevens is soft, he just isn't made for this game.


The big tell is his complete refusal to have former players on his staff.


Like Evan Turner?
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#308 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:07 pm

The Comedian wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
I understand the allure of coaching college, kids are more willing to soak up your teaching, the atmosphere is awesome, and recruiting is cool.


In college, coaches are the system.

In the NBA, stars are the system.

I get why Brad would want to return.


Brad is an incredible person, the players all like him. I’d love him to be a family member, I just don’t think he is a championship coach in today’s nba.


100% agree
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#309 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:08 pm

robdog_5 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
Stevens is soft, he just isn't made for this game.


The big tell is his complete refusal to have former players on his staff.


Like Evan Turner?


Ok and before that it was only Walter a few years back
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#310 » by Celtics_Champs » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:10 pm

I am fine giving him this season to figure it out. If he pulls the same old we were close, it didn’t pan out, here is Semi Ojele crap. Then you fire him.

Same with Brad.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#311 » by soxfan2003 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm

RodyTur10 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Hes waiting on K to retire.


It’s his dream job, and it’s not that far off from happening.


Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


Deck is stacked in his favor at Duke. Probably the program set to excel more than any other once Coach K retires. High schoolers back in the NBA won't hurt Duke as much as some other programs.

On the other hand, Celtics as of right now are not as well positioned. Ainge has all of the Celtics picks but the trade market is a bit of of whack and the Celtics contract situation is no longer that great.

I would much rather have a highly paid college coaching job at let's say Duke than coach Celtics or even Lakers if the money was the same. Less scrutiny. Yes, Duke fans expect championships much more often than lesser programs but if you at least make the Final Four even at Duke, it is usually considered a very good season. Make the Final Four in the NBA and a lot of knowledgeable fans are not really impressed since the Eastern Conference outside of Lebron has often been crap. And even with Lebron, Cavs were very weak one year in which they made the finals.

Much less travel in college. Less games/shorter games. More authority. You need to work a lot less hours especially if you hand off a lot of the preliminary recruiting to assistants. Less practice time.

Coaching at much lesser ACC teams, is a different story.

But realistically, coaching Duke basketball right now is probably #1 basketball coaching job in America. Coach K even has time to do stuff like Coaching clinics. Coach K turned down the Celtics for a reason. Duke was the better program/job at the time so even the Celtics offering more money couldn't persuade him. If Coach K was at Kentucky instead of Duke, I think he would have left Kentucky.

But if you have been in the Chapel Hill area, you wouldn't leave Duke for the Celtics either.

Some may say coach of Lakers is the better job but even not figuring in my dislike of the Lakers, I'd much rather coach Duke despite LA arguably being the better place to live if you are incredibly rich. Lakers win, GM/players rightfully get most of the credit. Duke wins, the coach probably gets more credit than he deserves.

Stevens would probably be a moron to bypass Duke to stay with the Celtics unless family considerations or loyalty to Indiana(Butler) were primary motivator.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#312 » by Celtics_Champs » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:25 pm

It’s kind of sad we have to even make this thread. But Danny Ainge past has sparked this.

If he would just get to work in season then this wouldn’t be a subject. But he takes February - March off. Almost every year.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#313 » by RodyTur10 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:28 pm

soxfan2003 wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
It’s his dream job, and it’s not that far off from happening.


Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


Deck is stacked in his favor at Duke. Probably the program set to excel more than any other once Coach K retires. High schoolers back in the NBA won't hurt Duke as much as some other programs.

On the other hand, Celtics as of right now are not as well positioned. Ainge has all of the Celtics picks but the trade market is a bit of of whack and the Celtics contract situation is no longer that great.

I would much rather have a highly paid college coaching job at let's say Duke than coach Celtics or even Lakers if the money was the same. Less scrutiny. Yes, Duke fans expect championships much more often than lesser programs but if you at least make the Final Four even at Duke, it is usually considered a very good season. Make the Final Four in the NBA and a lot of knowledgeable fans are not really impressed since the Eastern Conference outside of Lebron has often been crap. And even with Lebron, Cavs were very weak one year in which they made the finals.

Much less travel in college. Less games/shorter games. More authority. You need to work a lot less hours especially if you hand off a lot of the preliminary recruiting to assistants. Less practice time.

Coaching at much lesser ACC teams, is a different story.

But realistically, coaching Duke basketball right now is probably #1 basketball coaching job in America. Coach K even has time to do stuff like Coaching clinics. Coach K turned down the Celtics for a reason. Duke was the better program/job at the time so even the Celtics offering more money couldn't persuade him. If Coach K was at Kentucky instead of Duke, I think he would have left Kentucky.

But if you have been in the Chapel Hill area, you wouldn't leave Duke for the Celtics either.

Some may say coach of Lakers is the better job but even not figuring in my dislike of the Lakers, I'd much rather coach Duke despite LA arguably being the better place to live if you are incredibly rich. Lakers win, GM/players rightfully get most of the credit. Duke wins, the coach probably gets more credit than he deserves.

Stevens would probably be a moron to bypass Duke to stay with the Celtics unless family considerations or loyalty to Indiana(Butler) were primary motivator.


Honestly I still don't get it. As a topsportsman you want the highest in the sports and that's a World or Olympic title. In basketball terms that means winning the NBA. That ambition should be number one, rest is secondary.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#314 » by MagicBagley18 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:46 pm

It’s Duke for stevens if he has his pick imo but I could also see him at a place like Memphis or okc or some small market team that he could continuously over achieve and not have a ton of scrutiny or have to handle superstars- obviously Indiana also but I’d bet Duke heavily also as his next stop.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#315 » by BK_2020 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:53 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:
Why would you choose coaching kids over coaching in the best league in the world?
I don't understand.


Stevens is soft, he just isn't made for this game.


The big tell is his complete refusal to have former players on his staff.

He needs guys like Evan Turner on his staff.
Serious talk he has two former players on his staff. Like Spoelstra. Nurse has only one.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#316 » by Triple7 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:54 pm

Finally! You guys realize that Stevens is one of the major problem with this team. He’s got no killer instinct as a coach. Sticks to his **** boring routine rotation style, he’s no leader, which this team badly needs! He’s too soft, too nice. Time to go back to college for you stevens!
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#317 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:56 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
Stevens is soft, he just isn't made for this game.


The big tell is his complete refusal to have former players on his staff.

He needs guys like Evan Turner on his staff.
Serious talk he has two former players on his staff. Like Spoelstra. Nurse has only one.


Jerome Allen played two years as a fringe rotation piece. FOH

He needs someone players respect. Dude taking bribes at UPenn aint it.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#318 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:29 am

This isn't the solution.

This teams Personality is the issue.

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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#319 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:28 am

Read on Twitter


Washburn nailed it— this team is tuning out its coach and that doesnt bode well for the future
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#320 » by Triple7 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:37 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Read on Twitter


Washburn nailed it— this team is tuning out its coach and that doesnt bode well for the future


I’ve seen this already 2 seasons’ ago. This team lacks identity and character, and it’s on the coach. Finally the players had enough of Brad. The earlier this gets resolved, the better.

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