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Re: NBA Playoffs, Rnd 1: Nets @ Celtics – 3:30pm ET, Sun, April 17, 2022 

Post#441 » by SLCceltic » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:29 am

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Setshot33 wrote:Ben Simmons.

Notorious for being a bad shooter
Hasn't played competitive basketball in over a year
Has a bad back

And some of you expect him to be dropped into a Playoff game and be effective? Really?


Simmons playing shifts the odds in Bostons favor. Definitely.


I don’t know. A 6-10 ambidextrous dribbler who can outrun many guards and take a rebound coast to coast is a huge addition to any team. I am certain he could step on court after a year and 1/2 of playing and be a factor trying to do that and then dumping off to KD if he can’t get to rim. Even taking into account his 34% free throw rate, his inability to shoot and his probable lack of conditioning and all the limitations that come with a herniated disk - I think he would be the second best bench player on either roster. He might not be able to lock down Tatum but he could bother him and Brown a little more than many other defenders with his length and speed. I’m not sure that is enough to move the needle enough for Nets but I’d rather Celtics take care of business from the outset of series.


ya Simmons is a bigtime wildcard
his D and handle esp in transition will show up no matter how long it has been since he last played !

then imagine he knocks down a jumper or two in front of his new home crowd, gets a huge rush of confidence, drops a couple dimes, gets a couple stops on D ...nets could ride any such momentum to a W

I am very relieved he will not play before game 4 if at all ! don't want anything to do with simmons entering this series at all

with Rob I say bring on ALL COMERS bc we are the best team in the NBA, no rob and a guy like Simmons playing great during honeymoon w new team scares me
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Re: NBA Playoffs, Rnd 1: Nets @ Celtics – 3:30pm ET, Sun, April 17, 2022 

Post#442 » by 1st banana » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:32 am

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Simmons playing shifts the odds in Bostons favor. Definitely.


I don’t know. A 6-10 ambidextrous dribbler who can outrun many guards and take a rebound coast to coast is a huge addition to any team. I am certain he could step on court after a year and 1/2 of playing and be a factor trying to do that and then dumping off to KD if he can’t get to rim. Even taking into account his 34% free throw rate, his inability to shoot and his probable lack of conditioning and all the limitations that come with a herniated disk - I think he would be the second best bench player on either roster. He might not be able to lock down Tatum but he could bother him and Brown a little more than many other defenders with his length and speed. I’m not sure that is enough to move the needle enough for Nets but I’d rather Celtics take care of business from the outset of series.


ya Simmons is a bigtime wildcard
his D and handle esp in transition will show up no matter how long it has been since he last played !

then imagine he knocks down a jumper or two in front of his new home crowd, gets a huge rush of confidence, drops a couple dimes, gets a couple stops on D ...nets could ride any such momentum to a W

I am very relieved he will not play before game 4 if at all ! don't want anything to do with simmons entering this series at all

with Rob I say bring on ALL COMERS bc we are the best team in the NBA w Rob, no rob a guy like Simmons playing great during his honeymoon w new team worries me

Knock down a couple jumpers?

You got a better chance of grant Williams catching a lob and windmill dunking.
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Post#443 » by SLCceltic » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:42 am

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sam_I_am wrote:
I don’t know. A 6-10 ambidextrous dribbler who can outrun many guards and take a rebound coast to coast is a huge addition to any team. I am certain he could step on court after a year and 1/2 of playing and be a factor trying to do that and then dumping off to KD if he can’t get to rim. Even taking into account his 34% free throw rate, his inability to shoot and his probable lack of conditioning and all the limitations that come with a herniated disk - I think he would be the second best bench player on either roster. He might not be able to lock down Tatum but he could bother him and Brown a little more than many other defenders with his length and speed. I’m not sure that is enough to move the needle enough for Nets but I’d rather Celtics take care of business from the outset of series.


ya Simmons is a bigtime wildcard
his D and handle esp in transition will show up no matter how long it has been since he last played !

then imagine he knocks down a jumper or two in front of his new home crowd, gets a huge rush of confidence, drops a couple dimes, gets a couple stops on D ...nets could ride any such momentum to a W

I am very relieved he will not play before game 4 if at all ! don't want anything to do with simmons entering this series at all

with Rob I say bring on ALL COMERS bc we are the best team in the NBA w Rob, no rob a guy like Simmons playing great during his honeymoon w new team worries me

Knock down a couple jumpers?

You got a better chance of grant Williams catching a lob and windmill dunking.


you missed the point completely

say he DOES ! then the crowd, teammates, nott to mention Simmons himself the entire franchise and netsnation will get an electric rush of confidence

...his floor vision and D are to be expected but in his very 1st appearance for new team something as simple as a made 10ft jumper or even a loud finish at the rim could trigger all kinds energy for them

I want nothing to do w Simmons in a series wo Rob
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Post#444 » by sam_I_am » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:45 am

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I don’t know. A 6-10 ambidextrous dribbler who can outrun many guards and take a rebound coast to coast is a huge addition to any team. I am certain he could step on court after a year and 1/2 of playing and be a factor trying to do that and then dumping off to KD if he can’t get to rim. Even taking into account his 34% free throw rate, his inability to shoot and his probable lack of conditioning and all the limitations that come with a herniated disk - I think he would be the second best bench player on either roster. He might not be able to lock down Tatum but he could bother him and Brown a little more than many other defenders with his length and speed. I’m not sure that is enough to move the needle enough for Nets but I’d rather Celtics take care of business from the outset of series.


ya Simmons is a bigtime wildcard
his D and handle esp in transition will show up no matter how long it has been since he last played !

then imagine he knocks down a jumper or two in front of his new home crowd, gets a huge rush of confidence, drops a couple dimes, gets a couple stops on D ...nets could ride any such momentum to a W

I am very relieved he will not play before game 4 if at all ! don't want anything to do with simmons entering this series at all

with Rob I say bring on ALL COMERS bc we are the best team in the NBA w Rob, no rob a guy like Simmons playing great during his honeymoon w new team worries me

Knock down a couple jumpers?

You got a better chance of grant Williams catching a lob and windmill dunking.


True but Simmons could shoot 7-10 on drives and put up 17/10/9 in playoffs before he lost his confidence. I don’t see Grant doing that either.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#445 » by Triple7 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:49 am

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ya Simmons is a bigtime wildcard
his D and handle esp in transition will show up no matter how long it has been since he last played !

then imagine he knocks down a jumper or two in front of his new home crowd, gets a huge rush of confidence, drops a couple dimes, gets a couple stops on D ...nets could ride any such momentum to a W

I am very relieved he will not play before game 4 if at all ! don't want anything to do with simmons entering this series at all

with Rob I say bring on ALL COMERS bc we are the best team in the NBA w Rob, no rob a guy like Simmons playing great during his honeymoon w new team worries me

Knock down a couple jumpers?

You got a better chance of grant Williams catching a lob and windmill dunking.


you missed the point completely

say he DOES ! then the crowd, teammates, nott to mention Simmons himself the entire franchise and netsnation will get an electric rush of confidence

...his floor vision and D are to be expected but in his very 1st appearance for new team something as simple as a made 10ft jumper or even a loud finish at the rim could trigger all kinds energy for them

I want nothing to do w Simmons in a series wo Rob


That’s just wishful fantasy. A few “hack a ben” plays would send himd back crying in the lockers. Not worried about him when he’s playing, more so now. Total liablity on offense in the 4th.
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Post#446 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:10 am

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Post#447 » by 1st banana » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:12 am

SLCceltic wrote:
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ya Simmons is a bigtime wildcard
his D and handle esp in transition will show up no matter how long it has been since he last played !

then imagine he knocks down a jumper or two in front of his new home crowd, gets a huge rush of confidence, drops a couple dimes, gets a couple stops on D ...nets could ride any such momentum to a W

I am very relieved he will not play before game 4 if at all ! don't want anything to do with simmons entering this series at all

with Rob I say bring on ALL COMERS bc we are the best team in the NBA w Rob, no rob a guy like Simmons playing great during his honeymoon w new team worries me

Knock down a couple jumpers?

You got a better chance of grant Williams catching a lob and windmill dunking.


you missed the point completely

say he DOES ! then the crowd, teammates, nott to mention Simmons himself the entire franchise and netsnation will get an electric rush of confidence

...his floor vision and D are to be expected but in his very 1st appearance for new team something as simple as a made 10ft jumper or even a loud finish at the rim could trigger all kinds energy for them

I want nothing to do w Simmons in a series wo Rob

I was being facetious but he doesn’t have a 10ft jumper in his Arsenal.

Not that he can’t be effective but he hasn’t played one minute in almost a year. I’d welcome him in the series on a new team in a hostile environment rusty af.
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Post#448 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:25 am

one of nets main directives will be to go at theis to get him into foul trouble early and out of the game most of it. we have 3 capable bigs and the refs hate theis. who do we play in his place?
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Post#449 » by Triple7 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:32 am

We should have loaded up on bigs when Rob went down. Instead of getting tons of wings that can shoot, but we know won’t play. Any legit big would have been fine, just to hack and send drummond to the line.
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Post#450 » by PierceFan4ever » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:35 am

We need to take care of home court. All the pressure is on us these first 2 games, we need to get off to fast starts don’t want these games going down to the wire against 2 championship players.

I know what to expect from Tatum, Brown, saw what Al, Theis, and Smart are capable of as vets. This is where I need to see White and PP to shine bright. They both have been playing fantastic ball at the right time, need them to be key difference makers in this series should they load up on JT or Jaylen.
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Post#451 » by Parliament10 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:59 am

Shak_Celts wrote:one of nets main directives will be to go at theis to get him into foul trouble early and out of the game most of it. we have 3 capable bigs and the refs hate theis. who do we play in his place?

Kornet is not too bad. Grant can step in, but more so as a PF.
We really did need another Big. Too late now, though. Gotta run with who we got.
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Post#452 » by 1st banana » Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:05 am

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Shak_Celts wrote:one of nets main directives will be to go at theis to get him into foul trouble early and out of the game most of it. we have 3 capable bigs and the refs hate theis. who do we play in his place?

Kornet is not too bad. Grant can step in, but more so as a PF.
We really did need another Big. Too late now, though. Gotta run with who we got.

I wouldn’t be mad at a Tatum at center lineup. Nets would be the series for it Payton Derrick Marcus Jaylen Tatum.

Marcus derick jaylen grant Tatum would be fine too.
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Post#453 » by jfs1000d » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:27 am

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Drummond is a drop big, Tatum will light them up anytime he’s in. He’s a poor rim defender as well. Claxton is much more versatile defensively, but you can overpower him at the rim.

I don’t expect much Tatum from midrange, he’s almost entirely cut it out of his game. When the Nets play drop coverage, it’s bombs away from three for Tatum and Jaylen. If they go switch heavy, Tatum will live at the rim, and if they go blitz heavy/zone, you’ll see a lot of ball movement for open threes or good looks at the rim, and Jaylen would do serious damage.

Celtics should be able to get whatever they want offensively, as long as everyone makes quick decisions. Nets have made it clear that obviously slowing down Tatum is their first and second priority, but they aren’t the type of defense who can dictate much.

Do people not know nets personnel. Who in their rotation out of kd and Kylie is a rotation player here? Seth Curry?


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I know them but disagree strongly that Seth Curry is the only rotational player.

Dragic has been key for a long time for the Heat and like Irving he'll have the bubble effect of having completely fresh legs which is a huge advantage. Neither was actually injured but this is probably the best playoffs either will have for the rest of their career unless they find another way to skip 90% of the regular season and just get into game shape come playoffs.

Drummond as much as people **** on is a good starting Center in this league. He puts up huge stats and has a double double in just under 23 minutes a game go to with 1.5 aspg 1 stl 1 block. Again not even on starting minutes he's putting up monster numbers he's just not an all star like the Pistons expected him to be as their franchise player but in a role as a starting Center I'd love to have him as an option on our team. If we could rotate him with Rob we'd never lose the rebounding battle and teams would struggle strongly to get even 1 free layup per game.

I do question how good Claxton and Brown are just because they have the advantage of playing with Irving and Durant so it's hard to say what they'd do without ultra ISO heavy studs.

But yeah at least Dragic, Curry, and Drummond are very good rotaitonal players two of them good starters. Brown and Claxton could be but might just be high energy atheltic guys who are just great in their current roles for the Nets team.

Pre trade deadline I'd agree they had very little depth. Hell their best pieces after the big 2 are all players they got either for Harden or right after that trade lol.

But this team is hardly struggling for talent around Irving and Durant.

Drummond can be a problem for Boston. But he is also a problem for defense. He is a very limited player and isn’t the def waive anchor and can be exposed.

Dragic is done.

Let’s look at the nets roster, really. After kyrie and Durant who wound actually play minutes on the Celtics?

Bruce Brown, of course
Seth curry

Drummond, Dragic would be nailed to the bench and maybe wound even add Claxton to that mix.

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Post#454 » by jfs1000d » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:29 am

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jfs1000d wrote:Sigh. Can people look at metrics? Theis Horford is an excellent defensive pairing.

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This series will put the metrics to the test.

Just be man enough to admit that the metrics was wrong if the Celts end up losing the series.

According to some here, the stats and your metrics say the Celtics should win this series.

We'll know for sure in a couple of weeks.

The Celtics should win the series. They are a better and more Blanced team and are deeper and more talented 1-15.


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Post#455 » by jfs1000d » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:31 am

chrisab123 wrote:
Setshot33 wrote:Ben Simmons.

Notorious for being a bad shooter
Hasn't played competitive basketball in over a year
Has a bad back

And some of you expect him to be dropped into a Playoff game and be effective? Really?


Simmons playing shifts the odds in Bostons favor. Definitely.

A y time you want to take the ball out of Kyrie and Durants hands I am all for it .


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Post#456 » by jfs1000d » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:35 am

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chrisab123 wrote:
Setshot33 wrote:Ben Simmons.

Notorious for being a bad shooter
Hasn't played competitive basketball in over a year
Has a bad back

And some of you expect him to be dropped into a Playoff game and be effective? Really?


Simmons playing shifts the odds in Bostons favor. Definitely.


I don’t know. A 6-10 ambidextrous dribbler who can outrun many guards and take a rebound coast to coast is a huge addition to any team. I am certain he could step on court after a year and 1/2 of playing and be a factor trying to do that and then dumping off to KD if he can’t get to rim. Even taking into account his 34% free throw rate, his inability to shoot and his probable lack of conditioning and all the limitations that come with a herniated disk - I think he would be the second best bench player on either roster. He might not be able to lock down Tatum but he could bother him and Brown a little more than many other defenders with his length and speed. I’m not sure that is enough to move the needle enough for Nets but I’d rather Celtics take care of business from the outset of series.

Listen….I love Simmons as a player. He is an elite passer, a great defender and terrific in transition. Really an amazing talent.

But the dude isn’t plug and play. He isn’t a shooter. Is t a scorer, and is only going to be good when he gets a chance to gel.

The nets aren’t just gonna click with him out there.


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Post#457 » by Ill News » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:47 am

Jesus, I can't wait for this series to start. It's all I can think about these days. Like Jaylen, I can't sleep, I'm just too excited :lol:
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Post#458 » by BrianFitz » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:15 am

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This is what I'm talking about. Season on the line based on how you behave off the court for the next 2 months.


Yeah, I'm curious about this. I know PG had symptoms so very understandable. But is the NBA still actively testing for Covid? or just if a player shows symptoms?
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Post#459 » by Almeida » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:53 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:I hope the guys are doing their best to totally take covid protocols out of the equation. How often do they test now if you're vaccinated?

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This is what I'm talking about. Season on the line based on how you behave off the court for the next 2 months.


Yeah, I'm curious about this. I know PG had symptoms so very understandable. But is the NBA still actively testing for Covid? or just if a player shows symptoms?

I think he only got tested because he was showing symptoms.
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Post#460 » by Jaqua92 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:11 pm

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