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Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#461 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:08 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:If this team makes zero trades, as I said, it's time for Wyc to sell the team and Danny and Brad to go.


This board should invest in Cardano ASAP. If we pool all of our money together, we should have enough to buy the team in 5-6 years.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#462 » by Afam » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:12 am

It is time
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#463 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:15 am

FYI - Masai Ujiri still hasn’t signed an extension with the Raptors yet.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#464 » by ddb » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:15 am

I wouldn’t fire Ainge. I really wouldn’t. But if I was Ainge I would let Brad go. He isn’t Pop. He’s a good coach and he’s still young enough to be one of the greatest college coaches of all time. That’s where he belongs.
Danny needs to hire Becky Hammon. Celts have been the first to do a lot of things in this league. Time to hire the first female head coach.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#465 » by Jingles » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:16 am

Was a good “value” trade but everything bad in the last few seasons is connected to the Kyrie trade. Legendary what-if scenario that I would kill to rewrite.

It also seems pretty clear that Steven’s doesn’t really have much cachet with star players. Freelancing team through and through, on both ends.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#466 » by BigTrade92 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:19 am

As I said in the game thread, the Wyc and Ainge “Best Friends Forever” tour needs to end.

This franchise is being held hostage by its owner’s love affair with his has-been GM.

It's time to the plug already. 18 years is enough of a sample size for Danny Ainge.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#467 » by ddb » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:06 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:FYI - Masai Ujiri still hasn’t signed an extension with the Raptors yet.


Sign me up for Masai Ujiri and Becky Hammon. I’m willing to punt this season for those two.

Whoever hires Becky is getting a genius coach.
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Post#468 » by djFan71 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:09 am

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Bleeding Green wrote:He's a fun player defensively, but he is a total non-factor on the other end to a degree that is almost unplayable. And he's 24 in a week. The Celtics missing out on his 3 points per game probably isn't a big deal. And the Celtics got what, Carsen Edwards and that late first round pick last year that has now turned into two seconds? I guess he's better than Edwards. I can wait to see what the two seconds turn into.

We got Grant & Carsen for the pick that was Thybulle. We moved down two slots and Thybulle & Clarke were picked. We took Grant & got Carsen for our troubles.

Getting this year's #30 - was part of the Baynes dump (going from BOS 2019 pick to 2020 #30).

They already had the Grant pick at 22 I believe. They traded 20 for the pick that became Edwards and Ty Jerome, then traded the Jerome pick in the Suns as part of the Baynes trade. Brandon Clarke is tapped out and has taken a step back like Grant Williams this year as well. I wanted him for sure, though.

Yeah, you're right. I always think of it as moving down to 22, but we did already have 22. It was the 24 (along with 33) that we got back for 20. Then 24 went out with Baynes for 30 this year. But, the net is we picked 2 spots later than 20. :)

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2019/06/21/celtics-2019-nba-draft-picks

Either way, that draft kinda sucked in that area, so, yeah, you can split hairs with what Danny did, but Grant v Clarke v Thybulle - pfft at this point. I'd still probably go Clarke, Thybulle, Grant, though.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#469 » by playa-hater » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:12 am

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:FYI - Masai Ujiri still hasn’t signed an extension with the Raptors yet.


Sign me up for Masai Ujiri and Becky Hammon. I’m willing to punt this season for those two.

Whoever hires Becky is getting a genius coach.


Brad was considered a genius coach at one time as well. Maybe Becky is, but can she handle personalities and Egos?? Will she be afraid to sit a veteran player?

If we could pair her up with a C Billups (demand accountability and effort) and a ball movement coach (Becky) than I am all in.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#470 » by ddb » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:51 am

playa-hater wrote:
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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:FYI - Masai Ujiri still hasn’t signed an extension with the Raptors yet.


Sign me up for Masai Ujiri and Becky Hammon. I’m willing to punt this season for those two.

Whoever hires Becky is getting a genius coach.


Brad was considered a genius coach at one time as well. Maybe Becky is, but can she handle personalities and Egos?? Will she be afraid to sit a veteran player?

If we could pair her up with a C Billups (demand accountability and effort) and a ball movement coach (Becky) than I am all in.


I mean it’s getting pretty obvious that Brad cannot. I knew Becky when she was playing with the Silverstars. I’ve never met a more impressive basketball mind. Including everyone. Also not that it’s important but she’s a lesbian so that factor is out the door about love interest or anything like that. I’m telling you. Trust me. She isn’t a pawn. She’s the next Jackie Robinson. I’m very confident if she goes to a team like Boston she can change everything. And it’ll be good for Boston.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#471 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:13 am

At this point I am hoping the kardashian curse will be strong enough to let Brad go.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#472 » by OldCeltics » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:56 pm

Wyc said he will not fire Ainge or Brad, so I'm out for the year. Not watching any more games of this garbage.

If we even make the playoffs, we'll be an early exit. For NY or Philly fans that might be fine, but not for the greatest franchise in history, Celtics.

We waited 13 years, and Ainge gave us a .480 team. Good luck with that.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#473 » by Fierce1 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:58 pm

That is the solution.

If there are enough fans that will stop watching and following the Celtics, ownership will have no choice but to fire Ainge or Brad or both.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#474 » by BK_2020 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:03 pm

Yeah let's empty those arenas and really teach the owners a lesson....
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#475 » by darylbe » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:22 pm

Remember when Pritchard was good for 3 days and made us believe for a split second that ainge doesn't suck at drafting
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#476 » by BK_2020 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:27 pm

It was obvious from the beginning that Pritchard lacked any burst or speed or handles or literally any quality that would let him get separation from NBA defenders.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#477 » by bbd24 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:46 pm

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GoGreen wrote:
Yes, this puts it well. How long are we going to have to wait? How patient do we have to be? Too many excuses for Danny. He's had his chance to construct a great roster. His assets are dwindling and the high picks are gone. It hasn't amounted to what we all hoped it would.


Assets dwindling ? How ? You have 3 legit all stars, 2 of them extremely young. One of the best young centers in the league in Robert Williams, and how did you get Daniel Theis for free ?

Pritchard and Nesmith were great young picks in the draft, and even talent like Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters have value. How old is Marcus Smart, the prototypical glue guy? Again, yet another huge asset.it’s everywhere on the roster. Romeo Langford, if/when healthy, is no slouch either.

This roster is filled with assets. Add in the trade exception and it could get even better. Setup to compete for a long time.

Now, you just have to find the right rotation, which Brad is still trying to figure out. It’s simple. When it does get figured out, nobody is going to want to go against this team in a 7-game series.


Dude, you have an unhealthy amount of green koolaid coming out of your pores.


Nah. Kings fan. Send Ainge to Sacramento again like you did in the 80’s. We will take the smartest GM in the game out here. We’ve been looking for a championship team year after year. He’s a difference maker.

We won’t give up on you here Danny. Especially in a COVID year or if we had two starters sitting out. And especially not after 3/4 consecutive trips to the Eastern Conference finals. That wouldn’t be smart.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#478 » by bbd24 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:54 pm

It’s not Danny or Brad. It’s the two guys who nobody wants traded away. Tatum & Brown. Gorman is right, they’re ball stoppers right now. Too much dribbling, not enough creating. When they fix that (which they can), and Walker/Smart get back to full health, you’ll be fine.

Do you notice the way Nesmith is fighting out there ? He’s everywhere. Defense, Rebounding.... We need Brown & Tatum to do exactly the same. Get active, and not just when the balls in their hands.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#479 » by VeryMuchWoke » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:06 pm

I get the frustration, some of these losses have been brutal, but anyone expecting this team to be ECF level good this year, or that we'd get off to a good start was way off base. That was clear when we lost Hayward and even more so when we found out Kemba would be out for the start of the season.

As I keep saying, we need to maximize the team 2-3 years from now. That's when one of Jaylen/Jayson could possibly get to an MVP level and when they need to decide to stay or go.

The thompson and Teague signings have sucked, but they aren't all that consequential other than the opportunity cost. I'd have rather gone after guys like Giles that could fit the Jaylen/Jayson timeline, but targeting young guys with the mle is a crapshoot at best.

If Ainge Brad deserve criticism it's for mismanaging the Hayward/Irving/Horford situations. Losing all them for 0 shows a major inability to maximize expiring assets, which is odd because it has previously been something Ainge was very good at. My guess is that Brad may not be so great at passing along the temperature of players in the locker room and foreseeing these departures.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#480 » by grantlongforpresident » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:15 pm

I wouldn’t fire Ainge. He’s a better than average GM and has done more good than harm over time, despite a rough last couple of years.

Brad I might move on from. He has lost the team. It may be better to get a new voice in there. However, I don’t feel strongly about it and they aren’t going to do it so it’s kind of a moot point.

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