Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

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Two days ago no one knew who this Fontecchio was and now everyone wants him.

Fontecchio has been brought up numerous times in the thread.

From what I've read, Ainge had been keeping tabs on Fontecchio for years and he finally landed him in Utah. I highly doubt Ainge is looking to move him now that he is starting and shooting 41% from three point range, especially for what the Celtics would offer. Fontecchio more than likely resigns in Utah.

If Ainge liked Fontecchio so much why didn't we sign him anytime after 2017 when he went undrafted? Instead we got Poirier.

He wasn't ready then. A lot of these overseas guys aren't ready when they're drafted at age 19 so they go overseas, develop for a few years and then become NBA caliber players.

We saw it this past offseason with Micic, Vezenkov, Fontecchio and Dante Exum coming to the NBA to join the Thunder, Kings, Jazz and Mavericks. We saw it when Theis came over from overseas to join the Celtics.

Edy Taveres same thing - tried making it in the NBA at an early age, wasn't ready, went back overseas and dominated for a few years - then this past summer got a multi-year contract offer from Portland but stayed overseas because of the large buyout Portland would have had to pay..

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Two days ago no one knew who this Fontecchio was and now everyone wants him.

Fontecchio has been brought up numerous times in the thread.

From what I've read, Ainge had been keeping tabs on Fontecchio for years and he finally landed him in Utah. I highly doubt Ainge is looking to move him now that he is starting and shooting 41% from three point range, especially for what the Celtics would offer. Fontecchio more than likely resigns in Utah.

If Ainge liked Fontecchio so much why didn't we sign him anytime after 2017 when he went undrafted? Instead we got Poirier.

1 year ago – via Tony Jones @ The Athletic

Utah CEO Danny Ainge has long had interest in Fontecchio and even had him in a workout some years ago when he was running the Celtics. Why did the Jazz sign him? Sources say they simply thought he was the best remaining free agent available. That’s high praise seeing as how Fontecchio hasn’t played an NBA game.

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Fontecchio has been brought up numerous times in the thread.

From what I've read, Ainge had been keeping tabs on Fontecchio for years and he finally landed him in Utah. I highly doubt Ainge is looking to move him now that he is starting and shooting 41% from three point range, especially for what the Celtics would offer. Fontecchio more than likely resigns in Utah.

If Ainge liked Fontecchio so much why didn't we sign him anytime after 2017 when he went undrafted? Instead we got Poirier.

He wasn't ready then. A lot of these overseas guys aren't ready when they're drafted at age 19 so they go overseas, develop for a few years and then become NBA caliber players.

We saw it this past offseason with Micic, Vezenkov, Fontecchio and Dante Exum coming to the NBA to join the Thunder, Kings, Jazz and Mavericks. We saw it when Theis came over from overseas to join the Celtics.

Edy Taveres same thing - tried making it in the NBA at an early age, wasn't ready, went back overseas and dominated for a few years - then this past summer got a multi-year contract offer from Portland but stayed overseas because of the large buyout Portland would have had to pay..

If the Celtics game is any indication Micic is the worst player to play in the NBA in a long time.

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Siakam is awesome when slotted into the right role, but god damn would I hate the fit of him next to Sabonis.

Right? The worst possible front court partner for him.

Someone needs to rescue Fox from them.

Kings emerging as favorite for Siakam, sounds like it could happen soonish. God I hate it for Fox so much

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Right? The worst possible front court partner for him.

Someone needs to rescue Fox from them.

Kings emerging as favorite for Siakam, sounds like it could happen soonish. God I hate it for Fox so much

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can you tell me why you think it won't work and best case scenario, what you think they would have to do to make it work?

[KillahGhostface]

Someone needs to rescue Fox from them.

Kings emerging as favorite for Siakam, sounds like it could happen soonish. God I hate it for Fox so much

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can you tell me why you think it won't work and best case scenario, what you think they would have to do to make it work?

So in theory, Siakam as a third option is ideal. But he can’t shoot, like at all lol. His best asset is 15 feet and in, same for Sabonis. And it’s just going to clog the lane for Fox, who’s one of the best drivers in the league.

For it to work? They’d need to stagger the hell out Siakam and Sabonis. If I’m them, I’d use Siakam like the Celtics use Tatum. Pull him at the 6 minute mark, and then have him head up bench units. But come playoff time, they’ll all be out there together a ton, and bleh.

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Kings emerging as favorite for Siakam, sounds like it could happen soonish. God I hate it for Fox so much

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can you tell me why you think it won't work and best case scenario, what you think they would have to do to make it work?

So in theory, Siakam as a third option is ideal. But he can’t shoot, like at all lol. His best asset is 15 feet and in, same for Sabonis. And it’s just going to clog the lane for Fox, who’s one of the best drivers in the league.

For it to work? They’d need to stagger the hell out Siakam and Sabonis. If I’m them, I’d use Siakam like the Celtics use Tatum. Pull him at the 6 minute mark, and then have him head up bench units. But come playoff time, they’ll all be out there together a ton, and bleh.

thanks for that. I thought that no spacing would be an issue but on sabonis' part, i didn't realize Siakam can't shoot either.

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can you tell me why you think it won't work and best case scenario, what you think they would have to do to make it work?

So in theory, Siakam as a third option is ideal. But he can’t shoot, like at all lol. His best asset is 15 feet and in, same for Sabonis. And it’s just going to clog the lane for Fox, who’s one of the best drivers in the league.

For it to work? They’d need to stagger the hell out Siakam and Sabonis. If I’m them, I’d use Siakam like the Celtics use Tatum. Pull him at the 6 minute mark, and then have him head up bench units. But come playoff time, they’ll all be out there together a ton, and bleh.

thanks for that. I thought that no spacing would be an issue but on sabonis' part, i didn't realize Siakam can't shoot either.

He shoots from three overall like Tatum shoots on high dribble iso pullup threes lol.

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If Ainge liked Fontecchio so much why didn't we sign him anytime after 2017 when he went undrafted? Instead we got Poirier.

He wasn't ready then. A lot of these overseas guys aren't ready when they're drafted at age 19 so they go overseas, develop for a few years and then become NBA caliber players.

We saw it this past offseason with Micic, Vezenkov, Fontecchio and Dante Exum coming to the NBA to join the Thunder, Kings, Jazz and Mavericks. We saw it when Theis came over from overseas to join the Celtics.

Edy Taveres same thing - tried making it in the NBA at an early age, wasn't ready, went back overseas and dominated for a few years - then this past summer got a multi-year contract offer from Portland but stayed overseas because of the large buyout Portland would have had to pay..

If the Celtics game is any indication Micic is the worst player to play in the NBA in a long time.

1 game is never an indication of anything.

And Micic made some slick passes, made open 3's in that game. Not sure what you expect from a backup guard in his first NBA season.

[Shak_Celts]

He wasn't ready then. A lot of these overseas guys aren't ready when they're drafted at age 19 so they go overseas, develop for a few years and then become NBA caliber players.

We saw it this past offseason with Micic, Vezenkov, Fontecchio and Dante Exum coming to the NBA to join the Thunder, Kings, Jazz and Mavericks. We saw it when Theis came over from overseas to join the Celtics.

Edy Taveres same thing - tried making it in the NBA at an early age, wasn't ready, went back overseas and dominated for a few years - then this past summer got a multi-year contract offer from Portland but stayed overseas because of the large buyout Portland would have had to pay..

If the Celtics game is any indication Micic is the worst player to play in the NBA in a long time.

I game is never an indication of anything.

And Micic made some slick passes, made open 3's in that game. Not sure what you expect from a backup guard in his first NBA season.

never expect anything unless it's a Celtics, they have to be amazing on day one.

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Oh don't mind me, just watching the last game OPJ got decent minutes..and looking up PJ Tucker's catch and shoot 3 FG% from this season and last season..

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OPJ looks ok. His mobility looks just ok. Idk, hard to tell, he might be washed, he might still have some gas left in the tank. Can still shoot it decently well.

Tucker?
Catch and shoot 3's
23-24 season, first 15 games: 31.3%
22-23 Playoffs: 35%
22-23 reg season: 39.4%
21-22 playoffs: 46.9%
21-22 reg season: 41%

Obviously this season the % is bad. But it's a small sample size of games, some of those games were him adjusting to being on a new team, the others were early season games where lots of guys are shaking off the rust.

But he is 38, turns 39 during the playoffs. About a year younger than Al...so PJ might be washed.

They're both guys to have on the radar..

Tucker would be interesting. He won a title on the Bucks - he was a starter for them in that postseason run, in the same starting lineup with Jrue so obviously they have some chemistry built. And an assistant for that squad of course was Charles Lee - now in Boston.

PJ might like the idea of coming here, teaming up with Jrue and Charles and trying to beat 2 of his former teams (bucks, heat) to win another ring - then go riding off into the sunset of retirement.

And it might be cool to have PJ's defense, hustle, intensity, grit, physicality, toughness - while also being able to hit open 3's..as long as he's not too washed..

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[GoGreen]

Hmm, internal says Brad. Maybe that's a hint yo give Lamar some dang playing time!

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He wasn't ready then. A lot of these overseas guys aren't ready when they're drafted at age 19 so they go overseas, develop for a few years and then become NBA caliber players.

We saw it this past offseason with Micic, Vezenkov, Fontecchio and Dante Exum coming to the NBA to join the Thunder, Kings, Jazz and Mavericks. We saw it when Theis came over from overseas to join the Celtics.

Edy Taveres same thing - tried making it in the NBA at an early age, wasn't ready, went back overseas and dominated for a few years - then this past summer got a multi-year contract offer from Portland but stayed overseas because of the large buyout Portland would have had to pay..

If the Celtics game is any indication Micic is the worst player to play in the NBA in a long time.

1 game is never an indication of anything.

And Micic made some slick passes, made open 3's in that game. Not sure what you expect from a backup guard in his first NBA season.

What about the other 13 games in which he's been terrible?

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Kings emerging as favorite for Siakam, sounds like it could happen soonish. God I hate it for Fox so much

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can you tell me why you think it won't work and best case scenario, what you think they would have to do to make it work?

So in theory, Siakam as a third option is ideal. But he can’t shoot, like at all lol. His best asset is 15 feet and in, same for Sabonis. And it’s just going to clog the lane for Fox, who’s one of the best drivers in the league.

For it to work? They’d need to stagger the hell out Siakam and Sabonis. If I’m them, I’d use Siakam like the Celtics use Tatum. Pull him at the 6 minute mark, and then have him head up bench units. But come playoff time, they’ll all be out there together a ton, and bleh.

Well, he did technically win a title as a third, or even a second guy depending on how you classify him and Lowry

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To me Bey still remains one of the best options out there. He’s someone we would also have rights to lock in for a core piece. We really don’t have many avenues to continue to add talent with the new CBA. Ownership will have to deal with the taxes if they want to continue to contend.

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To me Bey still remains one of the best options out there. He’s someone we would also have rights to lock in for a core piece. We really don’t have many avenues to continue to add talent with the new CBA. Ownership will have to deal with the taxes if they want to continue to contend.

For some reason I’ve always had an (potentially irrational) aversion to this guy. But he’s starting to grow on me for the role Boston needs.

It’s possible I’ve mixed him up with Cam Reddish as a poor attitude/IQ/effort guy but that might be my mistake. Or maybe I had a reason for it and just forgot what it was lol.

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According to this he’s solid as a man def see at the four, not as much at guarding wings off the ball. Not sure that’s what this team needs, but maybe.

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/1/25/22894553/detroit-pistons-saddiq-bey-is-a-foundational-piece-in-detroits-restoration

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To me Bey still remains one of the best options out there. He’s someone we would also have rights to lock in for a core piece. We really don’t have many avenues to continue to add talent with the new CBA. Ownership will have to deal with the taxes if they want to continue to contend.

For some reason I’ve always had an (potentially irrational) aversion to this guy. But he’s starting to grow on me for the role Boston needs.

It’s possible I’ve mixed him up with Cam Reddish as a poor attitude/IQ/effort guy but that might be my mistake. Or maybe I had a reason for it and just forgot what it was lol.

Doesn’t even have to be him but something along these lines. A talent upgrade, we can resign that can be around long term. I think his shooting #’s would go up with looks he’d have here but that’s just a guess.

[BK_2020]

To me Bey still remains one of the best options out there. He’s someone we would also have rights to lock in for a core piece. We really don’t have many avenues to continue to add talent with the new CBA. Ownership will have to deal with the taxes if they want to continue to contend.

For some reason I’ve always had an (potentially irrational) aversion to this guy. But he’s starting to grow on me for the role Boston needs.

It’s possible I’ve mixed him up with Cam Reddish as a poor attitude/IQ/effort guy but that might be my mistake. Or maybe I had a reason for it and just forgot what it was lol.

Doesn’t even have to be him but something along these lines. A talent upgrade, we can resign that can be around long term. I think his shooting #’s would go up with looks he’d have here but that’s just a guess.

48% of his 3s are from the corners and 4.1 of his 5.5 3PA per game are wide open, 1.2 per game are open. I guarantee you he will not be getting better looks on the Celtics.