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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#561 » by Hal14 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:19 pm

TatumMVP wrote:Bey or Burks?

Probably not Burks, unless he gets bought out since he makes so much $..
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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#562 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:20 pm

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SuperDeluxe wrote:Since a TPE can't be combined with a player, and we sent out Stevens, was the small TPE really used?

If we did use the small TPE, why is Stevens being sent out? Also, can a TPE be combined with the two 2nd round picks that we sent away?

The tweeting about this trade has been a mess.

If a TPE was so small that no one could see when it was used, did the TPE even exist?

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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#563 » by playa-hater » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:20 pm

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playa-hater wrote:My gut says Delon Wright..for filler and picks..

What would the trade package look like?

I just tried Brissett/Banton/Svi/Walsh for Wright in the trade machine and it doesn't work..Wright makes too much $.

Only way I can see us getting Wright is if we trade Pritchard.

And I don't really see that happening. but I guess you never know, perhaps Brad/Joe are scared Pritchard will get abused on D and won't provide enough value on offense if his shots aren't falling (he only shot 21% from 3 in the NBA finals).

But at the same time, Pritchard has a 4 year extension that kicks in next season..Wright is on an expiring contract..I don't see it happening..

I think the most likely scenario is we scoop up a wing (like Konchar, Bey, Walker or Kispert) with the TPE and that way we don't have to send out any players (or perhaps we just send out 1 of them, like Svi or Banton).


wasn't aware "fillers" didn't match up. you are right, don't see them including PP
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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#564 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:24 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Funny how Himmelsbach said Cs are looking for injury insurance then Brad went ahead and traded for a currently injured player. Keep playing checkers, rest of the league.

BTW, the Quetarians must be bummed about this news. It's now less likely he gets converted to a regular contract with the added big man depth.

IDK. I think that we can still Convert Queta and/or try to match him next Season, as a RFA?
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Post#565 » by playa-hater » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:26 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:BTW, the Quetarians must be bummed about this news. It's now less likely he gets converted to a regular contract with the added big man depth.


Can't speak for other Quetarians, but I am actually happy. If Queta didn't play some/more over Kornet, I may have been bothered. But X-man is a legit + more playoff ready upgrade IMO. and my wanting 18 trumps over anything else.
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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#566 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:27 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Funny how Himmelsbach said Cs are looking for injury insurance then Brad went ahead and traded for a currently injured player. Keep playing checkers, rest of the league.

BTW, the Quetarians must be bummed about this news. It's now less likely he gets converted to a regular contract with the added big man depth.

Still on the Queta train, but I’ll trade anybody after the top 6 (maybe not Haus money) if it could help us get a title!

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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#567 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:31 pm

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:My gut says Delon Wright..for filler and picks..

What would the trade package look like?

I just tried Brissett/Banton/Svi/Walsh for Wright in the trade machine and it doesn't work..Wright makes too much $.

Only way I can see us getting Wright is if we trade Pritchard.

And I don't really see that happening. but I guess you never know, perhaps Brad/Joe are scared Pritchard will get abused on D and won't provide enough value on offense if his shots aren't falling (he only shot 21% from 3 in the NBA finals).

But at the same time, Pritchard has a 4 year extension that kicks in next season..Wright is on an expiring contract..I don't see it happening..

I think the most likely scenario is we scoop up a wing (like Konchar, Bey, Walker or Kispert) with the TPE and that way we don't have to send out any players (or perhaps we just send out 1 of them, like Svi or Banton).


I like Wright, but we already got one addition and a subtraction, so I'm more suspect about trading another player, particularly a rotation guy that can shoot. Wright is not someone I want to sell the farm for. (He'd be a nice buyout! 8-) )

Washington makes sense as a team to be on the phone with at the midnight hour, though.

I'm getting Duncan Robinson vibes from Kispert. He may be better than advertised on D. Comes from a great program. He has a skill that the Celtics can use that Hauser and Pritchard don't do well, which is can come off of screens and get a quick shot. Sort of like Miami does with Herro and Robinson. Hauser is more of a catch and shoot guy.

And like Tillman, he seems to be kinda chippy, a live wire, but in a different way. Outside of Pritchard and Al (and Queta when he plays), I find the C's bench to be almost too ... regimented and predictable (I think Joe calls it "making the right play!" :lol: ).

I'd like to see a guy that can come in and get hot when our starters are struggling; someone that can create their own shot and is Ok with stepping back another foot off that 3 point line when they're feeling hot.

Joe, OTOH, may see things very differently. But I hope Brad brings in one shooter with an independent streak. The team should be mature enough to handle it at this point. If it doesn't work, you bench him. Use the TPE while it's available.
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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#568 » by Memokerobi » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:38 pm

Dogen wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:My gut says Delon Wright..for filler and picks..

What would the trade package look like?

I just tried Brissett/Banton/Svi/Walsh for Wright in the trade machine and it doesn't work..Wright makes too much $.

Only way I can see us getting Wright is if we trade Pritchard.

And I don't really see that happening. but I guess you never know, perhaps Brad/Joe are scared Pritchard will get abused on D and won't provide enough value on offense if his shots aren't falling (he only shot 21% from 3 in the NBA finals).

But at the same time, Pritchard has a 4 year extension that kicks in next season..Wright is on an expiring contract..I don't see it happening..

I think the most likely scenario is we scoop up a wing (like Konchar, Bey, Walker or Kispert) with the TPE and that way we don't have to send out any players (or perhaps we just send out 1 of them, like Svi or Banton).


I like Wright, but we already got one addition and a subtraction, so I'm more suspect about trading another player, particularly a rotation guy that can shoot. Wright is not someone I want to sell the farm for. (He'd be a nice buyout! 8-) )

Washington makes sense as a team to be on the phone with at the midnight hour, though.

I'm getting Duncan Robinson vibes from Kispert. He may be better than advertised on D. Comes from a great program. He has a skill that the Celtics can use that Hauser and Pritchard don't do well, which is can come off of screens and get a quick shot. Sort of like Miami does with Herro and Robinson. Hauser is more of a catch and shoot guy.

And like Tillman, he seems to be kinda chippy, a live wire, but in a different way. Outside of Pritchard and Al (and Queta when he plays), I find the C's bench to be almost too ... regimented and predictable (I think Joe calls it "making the right play!" :lol: ).

I'd like to see a guy that can come in and get hot when our starters are struggling; someone that can create their own shot and is Ok with stepping back another foot off that 3 point line when they're feeling hot.

Joe, OTOH, may see things very differently. But I hope Brad brings in one shooter with an independent streak. The team should be mature enough to handle it at this point. If it doesn't work, you bench him. Use the TPE while it's available.


That sounds like Lonnie Walker to me
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Post#569 » by playa-hater » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:39 pm

Since a 2nd trade is NOT guaranteed, I am already wondering about the Buyout market.
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Post#570 » by playa-hater » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:40 pm

Memokerobi wrote:
Dogen wrote:
Hal14 wrote:What would the trade package look like?

I just tried Brissett/Banton/Svi/Walsh for Wright in the trade machine and it doesn't work..Wright makes too much $.

Only way I can see us getting Wright is if we trade Pritchard.

And I don't really see that happening. but I guess you never know, perhaps Brad/Joe are scared Pritchard will get abused on D and won't provide enough value on offense if his shots aren't falling (he only shot 21% from 3 in the NBA finals).

But at the same time, Pritchard has a 4 year extension that kicks in next season..Wright is on an expiring contract..I don't see it happening..

I think the most likely scenario is we scoop up a wing (like Konchar, Bey, Walker or Kispert) with the TPE and that way we don't have to send out any players (or perhaps we just send out 1 of them, like Svi or Banton).


I like Wright, but we already got one addition and a subtraction, so I'm more suspect about trading another player, particularly a rotation guy that can shoot. Wright is not someone I want to sell the farm for. (He'd be a nice buyout! 8-) )

Washington makes sense as a team to be on the phone with at the midnight hour, though.

I'm getting Duncan Robinson vibes from Kispert. He may be better than advertised on D. Comes from a great program. He has a skill that the Celtics can use that Hauser and Pritchard don't do well, which is can come off of screens and get a quick shot. Sort of like Miami does with Herro and Robinson. Hauser is more of a catch and shoot guy.

And like Tillman, he seems to be kinda chippy, a live wire, but in a different way. Outside of Pritchard and Al (and Queta when he plays), I find the C's bench to be almost too ... regimented and predictable (I think Joe calls it "making the right play!" :lol: ).

I'd like to see a guy that can come in and get hot when our starters are struggling; someone that can create their own shot and is Ok with stepping back another foot off that 3 point line when they're feeling hot.

Joe, OTOH, may see things very differently. But I hope Brad brings in one shooter with an independent streak. The team should be mature enough to handle it at this point. If it doesn't work, you bench him. Use the TPE while it's available.


That sounds like Lonnie Walker to me


I am still heavily on board with the Lonnie express train.
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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#571 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:41 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
SuperDeluxe wrote:Since a TPE can't be combined with a player, and we sent out Stevens, was the small TPE really used?

If we did use the small TPE, why is Stevens being sent out? Also, can a TPE be combined with the two 2nd round picks that we sent away?

The tweeting about this trade has been a mess.

If a TPE was so small that no one could see when it was used, did the TPE even exist?

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It's an apt comparison, given the square root of -81 is 9i where i is an imaginary number. :D
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Post#572 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:46 pm

Memokerobi wrote:
Dogen wrote:
Hal14 wrote:What would the trade package look like?

I just tried Brissett/Banton/Svi/Walsh for Wright in the trade machine and it doesn't work..Wright makes too much $.

Only way I can see us getting Wright is if we trade Pritchard.

And I don't really see that happening. but I guess you never know, perhaps Brad/Joe are scared Pritchard will get abused on D and won't provide enough value on offense if his shots aren't falling (he only shot 21% from 3 in the NBA finals).

But at the same time, Pritchard has a 4 year extension that kicks in next season..Wright is on an expiring contract..I don't see it happening..

I think the most likely scenario is we scoop up a wing (like Konchar, Bey, Walker or Kispert) with the TPE and that way we don't have to send out any players (or perhaps we just send out 1 of them, like Svi or Banton).


I like Wright, but we already got one addition and a subtraction, so I'm more suspect about trading another player, particularly a rotation guy that can shoot. Wright is not someone I want to sell the farm for. (He'd be a nice buyout! 8-) )

Washington makes sense as a team to be on the phone with at the midnight hour, though.

I'm getting Duncan Robinson vibes from Kispert. He may be better than advertised on D. Comes from a great program. He has a skill that the Celtics can use that Hauser and Pritchard don't do well, which is can come off of screens and get a quick shot. Sort of like Miami does with Herro and Robinson. Hauser is more of a catch and shoot guy.

And like Tillman, he seems to be kinda chippy, a live wire, but in a different way. Outside of Pritchard and Al (and Queta when he plays), I find the C's bench to be almost too ... regimented and predictable (I think Joe calls it "making the right play!" :lol: ).

I'd like to see a guy that can come in and get hot when our starters are struggling; someone that can create their own shot and is Ok with stepping back another foot off that 3 point line when they're feeling hot.

Joe, OTOH, may see things very differently. But I hope Brad brings in one shooter with an independent streak. The team should be mature enough to handle it at this point. If it doesn't work, you bench him. Use the TPE while it's available.


That sounds like Lonnie Walker to me


Yes, it does. I've moved Kispert one spot ahead of Walker since he's bigger and not injured. Lonnie gets the nod for experience though.
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Post#573 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:48 pm

Tillman has more playoff minutes than Porzingis. :o
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Post#574 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:50 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Tillman has more playoff minutes than Porzingis. :o


That's not a problem ... unless it's still true in June. :sad:
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Post#575 » by 165bows » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:52 pm

Dogen wrote:
Memokerobi wrote:
Dogen wrote:
I like Wright, but we already got one addition and a subtraction, so I'm more suspect about trading another player, particularly a rotation guy that can shoot. Wright is not someone I want to sell the farm for. (He'd be a nice buyout! 8-) )

Washington makes sense as a team to be on the phone with at the midnight hour, though.

I'm getting Duncan Robinson vibes from Kispert. He may be better than advertised on D. Comes from a great program. He has a skill that the Celtics can use that Hauser and Pritchard don't do well, which is can come off of screens and get a quick shot. Sort of like Miami does with Herro and Robinson. Hauser is more of a catch and shoot guy.

And like Tillman, he seems to be kinda chippy, a live wire, but in a different way. Outside of Pritchard and Al (and Queta when he plays), I find the C's bench to be almost too ... regimented and predictable (I think Joe calls it "making the right play!" :lol: ).

I'd like to see a guy that can come in and get hot when our starters are struggling; someone that can create their own shot and is Ok with stepping back another foot off that 3 point line when they're feeling hot.

Joe, OTOH, may see things very differently. But I hope Brad brings in one shooter with an independent streak. The team should be mature enough to handle it at this point. If it doesn't work, you bench him. Use the TPE while it's available.


That sounds like Lonnie Walker to me


Yes, it does. I've moved Kispert one spot ahead of Walker since he's bigger and not injured. Lonnie gets the nod for experience though.

Wasn’t a huge Walker guy but after the first trade to shore up the front court he could grow on me. Agree Kispert might be the best guy they can acquire reasonably easy - I do wonder if he’d get the minutes he’s looking for though. Walker same to a lesser degree.
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Post#576 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:57 pm

165bows wrote:
Dogen wrote:
Memokerobi wrote:
That sounds like Lonnie Walker to me


Yes, it does. I've moved Kispert one spot ahead of Walker since he's bigger and not injured. Lonnie gets the nod for experience though.

Wasn’t a huge Walker guy but after the first trade to shore up the front court he could grow on me. Agree Kispert might be the best guy they can acquire reasonably easy - I do wonder if he’d get the minutes he’s looking for though. Walker same to a lesser degree.


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Post#577 » by Hal14 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:57 pm

Dogen wrote:
Memokerobi wrote:
Dogen wrote:
I like Wright, but we already got one addition and a subtraction, so I'm more suspect about trading another player, particularly a rotation guy that can shoot. Wright is not someone I want to sell the farm for. (He'd be a nice buyout! 8-) )

Washington makes sense as a team to be on the phone with at the midnight hour, though.

I'm getting Duncan Robinson vibes from Kispert. He may be better than advertised on D. Comes from a great program. He has a skill that the Celtics can use that Hauser and Pritchard don't do well, which is can come off of screens and get a quick shot. Sort of like Miami does with Herro and Robinson. Hauser is more of a catch and shoot guy.

And like Tillman, he seems to be kinda chippy, a live wire, but in a different way. Outside of Pritchard and Al (and Queta when he plays), I find the C's bench to be almost too ... regimented and predictable (I think Joe calls it "making the right play!" :lol: ).

I'd like to see a guy that can come in and get hot when our starters are struggling; someone that can create their own shot and is Ok with stepping back another foot off that 3 point line when they're feeling hot.

Joe, OTOH, may see things very differently. But I hope Brad brings in one shooter with an independent streak. The team should be mature enough to handle it at this point. If it doesn't work, you bench him. Use the TPE while it's available.


That sounds like Lonnie Walker to me


Yes, it does. I've moved Kispert one spot ahead of Walker since he's bigger and not injured. Lonnie gets the nod for experience though.

Yup..I think Kispert is a little better defensively, too. And a little better at attacking the basket off the dribble and finishing near the rim.

Kispert also has another year left on his contract after this one, whereas Lonnie is on an expiring contract.

Lonnie slightly older, slightly more NBA experience, more playoff experience. And also better handles..

I'd be happy with either but I'd prefer Kispert.

Also, I think Kispert is a more realistic target, since Washington has a mandate from ownership to acquire more picks and they'r at the bottom of the standings so more likely to move their players for picks. Brooklyn meanwhile, they're only 2 games out of the play-in, and with Lavine out for the season, they could certainly catch Chicago for the 10 spot. Rumor has it, they don't want to rebuild..and they don't have their own 1st round pick this year so there's less reason for them to tank.

With that being said, there was just a rumor yesterday that BOS is interested in Walker..but I haven't heard any rumors about us being interested in Kispert..
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Post#578 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 7, 2024 11:00 pm

So the Celtics can get Lonnie Walker IV any time they want. They have the assets. So Walker IV must be a backup plan, a fall back. Celtics must have a bigger target in mind. Who could it be? Caruso? Burks? Osman? Someone else?
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Post#579 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Feb 7, 2024 11:03 pm

Re Corey Kispert, who I like because of his breakfast-sounding name, is last among 534 players in D-LEBRON.:o FWIW.
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Post#580 » by Riverwalk2021 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 11:04 pm

Who can we get and who are the best fits?

Wings: Caruso, Walker, Konchar, Dunn.
Bigs: Drummond, Aldama, Saric, Shapre.

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