romeiroceltic wrote:Why would we trade for Kawhi if we have Hayward?
Oh that’s right. I forgot the NBA implemented the new rule that a team can only have 1 really good SF at a time. Good catch.
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romeiroceltic wrote:Why would we trade for Kawhi if we have Hayward?
Gurton Buster wrote:return2glory wrote:I enjoy Brown and Tatum improving. I want them to keep getting better and better. It helps the team and it helps build trade value. If we can include Brown or Tatum in a package for AD or Leonard, you do it. If those trades don’t happen, then I will gladly keep them as long has they keep working hard on improving their games and keep getting better.
Thought JB was a scrub lol.
romeiroceltic wrote:Why would we trade for Kawhi if we have Hayward?

Marvel wrote:romeiroceltic wrote:Why would we trade for Kawhi if we have Hayward?
Because this
titlebound1 wrote:ermocrate wrote:titlebound1 wrote:Jaylen strikes me as the type who will leave as soon as he's an UFA. Obviously we're still years away from that. But money will start becoming an issue very soon. If we're going to move Brown, this would be the summer to do it
So GS can manage to have 4 star and we can't? Anyway Brown will be UFA in 2021, 3 years from now.
They're going to have to do some scrambling for Thompson unless he is cool with taking a discount. Like a pretty big one.
Al and Gordon already have the max. Kyrie is next. Al will be off the books by the time Jaylen and Tatum are due, but they are both going to get maxed out too at some point if they keep improving. So there will be some questions on what to do with smart and rozier.
The warriors are also spending big on the second best player on the planet and another guy who is maybe in the top 5. We would be spending it on one top ten player and then maybe a couple of top 20ish guys. The need to spread the money around isn't nearly as important for them. They could have the worst bench in the league and still win a championship.
chakdaddy wrote:BigTrade92 wrote:Jaylen is a sell high type of player. He has high boom/bust potential.
If you can get AD and keep Tatum while using Brown as the centerpiece, you do it every single time.
He had boom/bust potential. Seems more like boom/plateau by now. His floor is pretty high as a proven rotation guy already.
ermocrate wrote:titlebound1 wrote:ermocrate wrote:So GS can manage to have 4 star and we can't? Anyway Brown will be UFA in 2021, 3 years from now.
They're going to have to do some scrambling for Thompson unless he is cool with taking a discount. Like a pretty big one.
Al and Gordon already have the max. Kyrie is next. Al will be off the books by the time Jaylen and Tatum are due, but they are both going to get maxed out too at some point if they keep improving. So there will be some questions on what to do with smart and rozier.
The warriors are also spending big on the second best player on the planet and another guy who is maybe in the top 5. We would be spending it on one top ten player and then maybe a couple of top 20ish guys. The need to spread the money around isn't nearly as important for them. They could have the worst bench in the league and still win a championship.
Furtunately the timing is just about right for us if we make the right moves, if we can make Kyrie opt in and Al opt out we will be able to sign a max player and the re-sign Al for cheap, if this is the case we can't resign Smart or Rozier for much and Tatum and Bropwn will eventually be a "problem" just if they are top players, in other cases they will be traded.
Again, Brown and Tatum are a matter for another year, if they are max player there's no reason to retain Hayward then. We may have more talent than GS when thr time comes.titlebound1 wrote:ermocrate wrote:titlebound1 wrote:
They're going to have to do some scrambling for Thompson unless he is cool with taking a discount. Like a pretty big one.
Al and Gordon already have the max. Kyrie is next. Al will be off the books by the time Jaylen and Tatum are due, but they are both going to get maxed out too at some point if they keep improving. So there will be some questions on what to do with smart and rozier.
The warriors are also spending big on the second best player on the planet and another guy who is maybe in the top 5. We would be spending it on one top ten player and then maybe a couple of top 20ish guys. The need to spread the money around isn't nearly as important for them. They could have the worst bench in the league and still win a championship.
Furtunately the timing is just about right for us if we make the right moves, if we can make Kyrie opt in and Al opt out we will be able to sign a max player and the re-sign Al for cheap, if this is the case we can't resign Smart or Rozier for much and Tatum and Bropwn will eventually be a "problem" just if they are top players, in other cases they will be traded.
I doubt there is any chance at all that Al will opt out. If he's willing to take one for the team and resign for less, awesome. But we wouldn't be able to go out and sign another max. That money will have to be used on Tatum and Brown eventually unless we do plan on trading them. I'm not sure what the market will look like when they become RFAs...but you have to imagine teams will offer them the max. Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and Gordon all at Max money is not possible. Even if Al makes less. The rest of our team would be crap, and they're not good enough to warrant that sort of top heavy roster. Golden State can get away with it because of their talent. But their top two are better than anyone we have on our team
RWGreen wrote:20/22 on free throws over his last 5 games. Felt like I needed to throw that stat somewhere.
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Could Jaylen's ambition and drive be a double-edged sword? Love that he works hard and wants to be one of the best players in the league. However, what happens when he's due for a contract?
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
Scoonie wrote:CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Could Jaylen's ambition and drive be a double-edged sword? Love that he works hard and wants to be one of the best players in the league. However, what happens when he's due for a contract?
Al Horford's contract will be off the books by the time Jaylen needs a new contract. Long-term, the Celtics will likely be able to keep 3 out of 4 of Kyrie, Jaylen, Tatum, and Hayward. Gordon Hayward is the oldest of the group, so it's a possibility that he could be gone after his contract ends in 2021.
Obviously, a lot will play out between now and we'll see which guys perform the best over these next three seasons.
Larry Legend 33 wrote:Scoonie wrote:CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Could Jaylen's ambition and drive be a double-edged sword? Love that he works hard and wants to be one of the best players in the league. However, what happens when he's due for a contract?
Al Horford's contract will be off the books by the time Jaylen needs a new contract. Long-term, the Celtics will likely be able to keep 3 out of 4 of Kyrie, Jaylen, Tatum, and Hayward. Gordon Hayward is the oldest of the group, so it's a possibility that he could be gone after his contract ends in 2021.
Obviously, a lot will play out between now and we'll see which guys perform the best over these next three seasons.
Yeah, Horford comes off the books when Jaylen is up for an extension and Hayward comes off the books when Tatum is up for an extension. If the older guys want to stick around on cheap, team friendly deals then great. But the way things look right now I'd have no hesitation letting them walk to keep the young studs.