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Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason?

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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#61 » by Edug27 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:27 am

romeiroceltic wrote:Why would we trade for Kawhi if we have Hayward?


Oh that’s right. I forgot the NBA implemented the new rule that a team can only have 1 really good SF at a time. Good catch.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#62 » by return2glory » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:41 am

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return2glory wrote:I enjoy Brown and Tatum improving. I want them to keep getting better and better. It helps the team and it helps build trade value. If we can include Brown or Tatum in a package for AD or Leonard, you do it. If those trades don’t happen, then I will gladly keep them as long has they keep working hard on improving their games and keep getting better.


Thought JB was a scrub lol.


A scrub that improving, so I will take that. I’m not high on Jaylen as many people here. I want him to do great to increase his trade value.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#63 » by Marvel » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:47 am

romeiroceltic wrote:Why would we trade for Kawhi if we have Hayward?


Because this

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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#64 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:53 am

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romeiroceltic wrote:Why would we trade for Kawhi if we have Hayward?


Because this

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Agreed. Just look at how happy the kid and everyone around her are. That would be us once we acquire Kawhi and get Gordie back.

The more this thread keeps going, the more I believe it's happening this summer.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#65 » by ermocrate » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:22 am

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titlebound1 wrote:Jaylen strikes me as the type who will leave as soon as he's an UFA. Obviously we're still years away from that. But money will start becoming an issue very soon. If we're going to move Brown, this would be the summer to do it

So GS can manage to have 4 star and we can't? Anyway Brown will be UFA in 2021, 3 years from now.


They're going to have to do some scrambling for Thompson unless he is cool with taking a discount. Like a pretty big one.

Al and Gordon already have the max. Kyrie is next. Al will be off the books by the time Jaylen and Tatum are due, but they are both going to get maxed out too at some point if they keep improving. So there will be some questions on what to do with smart and rozier.

The warriors are also spending big on the second best player on the planet and another guy who is maybe in the top 5. We would be spending it on one top ten player and then maybe a couple of top 20ish guys. The need to spread the money around isn't nearly as important for them. They could have the worst bench in the league and still win a championship.

Furtunately the timing is just about right for us if we make the right moves, if we can make Kyrie opt in and Al opt out we will be able to sign a max player and the re-sign Al for cheap, if this is the case we can't resign Smart or Rozier for much and Tatum and Bropwn will eventually be a "problem" just if they are top players, in other cases they will be traded.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#66 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:53 pm

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BigTrade92 wrote:Jaylen is a sell high type of player. He has high boom/bust potential.

If you can get AD and keep Tatum while using Brown as the centerpiece, you do it every single time.


He had boom/bust potential. Seems more like boom/plateau by now. His floor is pretty high as a proven rotation guy already.


Perfect time to trade him then.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#67 » by chakdaddy » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:52 pm

What is truly the best time to trade someone? When you have info other teams don't like after we worked out Fultz and realized he was a head case. If we realize Brown will plateaue, that's the time to sell high.
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Post#68 » by titlebound1 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:40 pm

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ermocrate wrote:So GS can manage to have 4 star and we can't? Anyway Brown will be UFA in 2021, 3 years from now.


They're going to have to do some scrambling for Thompson unless he is cool with taking a discount. Like a pretty big one.

Al and Gordon already have the max. Kyrie is next. Al will be off the books by the time Jaylen and Tatum are due, but they are both going to get maxed out too at some point if they keep improving. So there will be some questions on what to do with smart and rozier.

The warriors are also spending big on the second best player on the planet and another guy who is maybe in the top 5. We would be spending it on one top ten player and then maybe a couple of top 20ish guys. The need to spread the money around isn't nearly as important for them. They could have the worst bench in the league and still win a championship.

Furtunately the timing is just about right for us if we make the right moves, if we can make Kyrie opt in and Al opt out we will be able to sign a max player and the re-sign Al for cheap, if this is the case we can't resign Smart or Rozier for much and Tatum and Bropwn will eventually be a "problem" just if they are top players, in other cases they will be traded.


I doubt there is any chance at all that Al will opt out. If he's willing to take one for the team and resign for less, awesome. But we wouldn't be able to go out and sign another max. That money will have to be used on Tatum and Brown eventually unless we do plan on trading them. I'm not sure what the market will look like when they become RFAs...but you have to imagine teams will offer them the max. Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and Gordon all at Max money is not possible. Even if Al makes less. The rest of our team would be crap, and they're not good enough to warrant that sort of top heavy roster. Golden State can get away with it because of their talent. But their top two are better than anyone we have on our team
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#69 » by titlebound1 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:43 pm

We could get away with 4 max if one of those guys is AD or Leonard and the other 3 are kyrie, Gordon and one of Brown/Tatum. At that point, who cares what the rest of the roster looks like. We could fill it out like we did in 08. But that is completely dependant on us being able to trade for a legit 1A guy to play with Kyrie and Gordon
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#70 » by ermocrate » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:01 pm

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They're going to have to do some scrambling for Thompson unless he is cool with taking a discount. Like a pretty big one.

Al and Gordon already have the max. Kyrie is next. Al will be off the books by the time Jaylen and Tatum are due, but they are both going to get maxed out too at some point if they keep improving. So there will be some questions on what to do with smart and rozier.

The warriors are also spending big on the second best player on the planet and another guy who is maybe in the top 5. We would be spending it on one top ten player and then maybe a couple of top 20ish guys. The need to spread the money around isn't nearly as important for them. They could have the worst bench in the league and still win a championship.

Furtunately the timing is just about right for us if we make the right moves, if we can make Kyrie opt in and Al opt out we will be able to sign a max player and the re-sign Al for cheap, if this is the case we can't resign Smart or Rozier for much and Tatum and Bropwn will eventually be a "problem" just if they are top players, in other cases they will be traded.


I doubt there is any chance at all that Al will opt out. If he's willing to take one for the team and resign for less, awesome. But we wouldn't be able to go out and sign another max. That money will have to be used on Tatum and Brown eventually unless we do plan on trading them. I'm not sure what the market will look like when they become RFAs...but you have to imagine teams will offer them the max. Kyrie, Brown, Tatum and Gordon all at Max money is not possible. Even if Al makes less. The rest of our team would be crap, and they're not good enough to warrant that sort of top heavy roster. Golden State can get away with it because of their talent. But their top two are better than anyone we have on our team
Again, Brown and Tatum are a matter for another year, if they are max player there's no reason to retain Hayward then. We may have more talent than GS when thr time comes.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#71 » by RWGreen » Thu Mar 1, 2018 2:49 am

20/22 on free throws over his last 5 games. Felt like I needed to throw that stat somewhere.
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Post#72 » by Higgs Boston » Thu Mar 1, 2018 4:49 am

RWGreen wrote:20/22 on free throws over his last 5 games. Felt like I needed to throw that stat somewhere.


And he is improving as a passer and is getting 3-4 assists in some games.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#73 » by Scarletfire81 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:20 pm

I seriously hope Jaylen is here for years to come, dude is clutch. There are alot of players who dont want to take that last shot. Do what ever it takes to keep him and Tatum locked up.
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Post#74 » by Moose23 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:27 pm

I love Jaylen.

Great kid turning into a special player.

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Post#75 » by Andre3822 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:01 pm

I think if we keep both Jaylen and Jayson, then we'll be relevant and fun to watch for at least a decade, we can match whatever and keep them locked for a nice time. Not saying it would bring in a title, but I like the odds and to me it's extremely important for the Celtic players to be likable. Those two are extremely likeable.
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Post#76 » by Scoonie » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:21 pm

I would trade him for Anthony Davis, but very few other players.

Kid is going to be real good, has a chance to easily be as good as Jimmy Butler.
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Post#77 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:41 pm

Could Jaylen's ambition and drive be a double-edged sword? Love that he works hard and wants to be one of the best players in the league. However, what happens when he's due for a contract? He's not going to usurp Kyrie as the guy on this team, and it looks like Tatum will probably get more touches when he develops. The pecking order for the next few years will be Kyrie/Hayward/Tatum/Brown assuming we keep everyone. Will Jaylen's drive make him want to explore what it will be like to have a bigger role? Something for us to keep an eye on.
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Post#78 » by Scoonie » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:47 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Could Jaylen's ambition and drive be a double-edged sword? Love that he works hard and wants to be one of the best players in the league. However, what happens when he's due for a contract?


Al Horford's contract will be off the books by the time Jaylen needs a new contract. Long-term, the Celtics will likely be able to keep 3 out of 4 of Kyrie, Jaylen, Tatum, and Hayward. Gordon Hayward is the oldest of the group, so it's a possibility that he could be gone after his contract ends in 2021.

Obviously, a lot will play out between now and we'll see which guys perform the best over these next three seasons.
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Post#79 » by Larry Legend 33 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:16 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Could Jaylen's ambition and drive be a double-edged sword? Love that he works hard and wants to be one of the best players in the league. However, what happens when he's due for a contract?


Al Horford's contract will be off the books by the time Jaylen needs a new contract. Long-term, the Celtics will likely be able to keep 3 out of 4 of Kyrie, Jaylen, Tatum, and Hayward. Gordon Hayward is the oldest of the group, so it's a possibility that he could be gone after his contract ends in 2021.

Obviously, a lot will play out between now and we'll see which guys perform the best over these next three seasons.


Yeah, Horford comes off the books when Jaylen is up for an extension and Hayward comes off the books when Tatum is up for an extension. If the older guys want to stick around on cheap, team friendly deals then great. But the way things look right now I'd have no hesitation letting them walk to keep the young studs.
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Post#80 » by 3D Chess » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:22 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Could Jaylen's ambition and drive be a double-edged sword? Love that he works hard and wants to be one of the best players in the league. However, what happens when he's due for a contract?


Al Horford's contract will be off the books by the time Jaylen needs a new contract. Long-term, the Celtics will likely be able to keep 3 out of 4 of Kyrie, Jaylen, Tatum, and Hayward. Gordon Hayward is the oldest of the group, so it's a possibility that he could be gone after his contract ends in 2021.

Obviously, a lot will play out between now and we'll see which guys perform the best over these next three seasons.


Yeah, Horford comes off the books when Jaylen is up for an extension and Hayward comes off the books when Tatum is up for an extension. If the older guys want to stick around on cheap, team friendly deals then great. But the way things look right now I'd have no hesitation letting them walk to keep the young studs.

Having too many guys to pay is a good problem to have, especially with Danny manning the controls.

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