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E. CONF. FINALS – Gm 4: Celtics (0) @ Heat (3) – 8:30PM, Tues, May 23, 2023

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What level of changes do you want to see on the Celtics, this Off-season?

Fire Joe Mazzulla
55
23%
Hire Competent Assistant Coaches
32
13%
Fire Brad Stevens
13
5%
Give Extension: To Brown
23
10%
Give Extension: To Tatum, when poss.
29
12%
Give Extension: To Grant Williams
9
4%
Trade Brown and/or some of the Other Top 7.
37
15%
Re-sign Bench Players
8
3%
Bring in 3 x New Two-Ways
7
3%
Trade Pritchard and/or get some new Bench Players
29
12%
 
Total votes: 242

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Re: E. CONF. FINALS – Gm 4: Celtics (0) @ Heat (3) – 8:30PM, Tues, May 23, 2023 

Post#81 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Tue May 23, 2023 4:51 am

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:Spoke too soon with the Lakers. They have really showned their age. I think they’re different compare to us. There’s no excuses for us to get swept.

Lakers playoff rotation
  • Rui Hachimura - 25 - Before prime
  • LeBron James - 38 - Past prime
  • Anthony Davis - 30 - Prime
  • Austin Reaves - 24 - Before prime
  • Dennis Schroder - 29 - Prime
  • D'Angelo Russell - 27 - Prime
  • Lonnie Walker - 24 - Before prime
  • Jarred Vanderbilt - 24 - Before prime

Celtics playoff rotation
  • Jaylen Brown - 26 - Entering prime
  • Jayson Tatum - 25 - Before prime
  • Al Horford - 36 - Past prime
  • Derrick White - 28 - Prime
  • Marcus Smart - 29 - Prime
  • Malcolm Brogdon - 30 - Prime
  • Robert Williams - 25 - Before prime
  • Grant Williams - 24 - Before prime

How is age an excuse for Lakers? LeBron is their only player past prime but his output is still excellent.
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Post#82 » by Triple7 » Tue May 23, 2023 5:03 am

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Would you rather us storm back and force a game 7 and lose and keep Joe or get blown out in game 4 and fire him?


Do we really have any confidence in this Ownership group to make any changes?

They moved Stevens up to GM to appease the players and save money on his contract and sign rookie head coach after rookie head coach.

They got their ring and now all they care about is a constant stream of playoff ticket revenue. Then when Tatum demands out they can always just sell for a massive profit if they don't want to say they own a rebuilding franchise.

It's just as likely they call this year as a success and keep Stevens and Joe and there are no trades and nothing changes going into next year if we lose tomorrow or if we lose in Game 5.


I find it hard to believe Brad didn't have the blessing of Wyc and Co. when he made those moves. Brad is not entirely to blame here. This starts all the way from the top.


This roster is a reflection of Brad Stevens. Joe is Brad’s guy. Both of them share a huge portion of the blame. Almost every Celtics fans wanted Brad to address our big man situation. We don’t have a bruiser inside. Guys like steph curry, duncan robinson, heck even kyle lowry and gabe vincent, gets rebounds and layups inside. Horford mostly camps outside. Rob ain’t a bruiser or an enforcer. We need a legit big to man the middle. At least someone that can alter shots, get rebounds fast so we can run.
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Post#83 » by TheMartian » Tue May 23, 2023 5:15 am

Triple7 wrote:
TheMartian wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
Do we really have any confidence in this Ownership group to make any changes?

They moved Stevens up to GM to appease the players and save money on his contract and sign rookie head coach after rookie head coach.

They got their ring and now all they care about is a constant stream of playoff ticket revenue. Then when Tatum demands out they can always just sell for a massive profit if they don't want to say they own a rebuilding franchise.

It's just as likely they call this year as a success and keep Stevens and Joe and there are no trades and nothing changes going into next year if we lose tomorrow or if we lose in Game 5.


I find it hard to believe Brad didn't have the blessing of Wyc and Co. when he made those moves. Brad is not entirely to blame here. This starts all the way from the top.


This roster is a reflection of Brad Stevens. Joe is Brad’s guy. Both of them share a huge portion of the blame. Almost every Celtics fans wanted Brad to address our big man situation. We don’t have a bruiser inside. Guys like steph curry, duncan robinson, heck even kyle lowry and gabe vincent, gets rebounds and layups inside. Horford mostly camps outside. Rob ain’t a bruiser or an enforcer. We need a legit big to man the middle. At least someone that can alter shots, get rebounds fast so we can run.


I don't disagree. My point here is Wyc and Co. are as much to blame, as I doubt Brad makes any moves without their consent.
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Post#84 » by Triple7 » Tue May 23, 2023 5:31 am

TheMartian wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
TheMartian wrote:
I find it hard to believe Brad didn't have the blessing of Wyc and Co. when he made those moves. Brad is not entirely to blame here. This starts all the way from the top.


This roster is a reflection of Brad Stevens. Joe is Brad’s guy. Both of them share a huge portion of the blame. Almost every Celtics fans wanted Brad to address our big man situation. We don’t have a bruiser inside. Guys like steph curry, duncan robinson, heck even kyle lowry and gabe vincent, gets rebounds and layups inside. Horford mostly camps outside. Rob ain’t a bruiser or an enforcer. We need a legit big to man the middle. At least someone that can alter shots, get rebounds fast so we can run.


I don't disagree. My point here is Wyc and Co. are as much to blame, as I doubt Brad makes any moves without their consent.


Probably, but I think Brad makes the decision on who to get, then gets approval from the owners. I got a lot of flak around here when i said we should get a guy like Dwight to bolster our middle. What’s the use of getting guys like muscala. Dwight at least can defend the paint and get those rebounds. I doubt Bam would have it easy against dwight, or guys like duncan robinson or martin or struss can have it easy inside. 10mins of dwight would have been better than muscala with zero mins. I see that our constant switching have been a problem. That’s why guys like Bam and butler ends up with smaller defenders, and guys like Al and Rob ends up guarding trae or the hardens way way out. This has Stevens written all over it. Same problem we had when brad was our coach.
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Post#85 » by bigboi » Tue May 23, 2023 5:41 am

Shame came to this lol. I’d like something historical but team seems defeated. Joe doesn’t seem like a rally the troops type
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Post#86 » by Triple7 » Tue May 23, 2023 7:02 am

We are like the lakers, gets the lead and chokes it away in the clutch. Tatum is like old man lebron, pour in the stats the 1st 3qrts, then disappears and brick most shots in the 4th. He is definitely close to lebron in mentality, especially with the way he praise himself lol. Like lebron, has all the talent, but has the tendency to choke.

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Post#87 » by flintsky21 » Tue May 23, 2023 7:25 am

Just give me 1 for the road, Boston.
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Post#88 » by Bohemian » Tue May 23, 2023 8:04 am

I hope we play a good game, at least. Could be our season finale.
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Post#90 » by The Corey's » Tue May 23, 2023 8:20 am

Bohemian wrote:I hope we play a good game, at least. Could be our season finale.



Anything short of a blowout all but guarantees no changes.

Showing up and competing in the 4th game would actually be more embarrassing if you ask me.

Typical Celtics.
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Post#91 » by Triple7 » Tue May 23, 2023 9:33 am

The Corey's wrote:
Bohemian wrote:I hope we play a good game, at least. Could be our season finale.



Anything short of a blowout all but guarantees no changes.

Showing up and competing in the 4th game would actually be more embarrassing if you ask me.

Typical Celtics.


Then of course Bubble gum Joe would say that he liked what he saw, and could build on it for next season lol.
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Post#92 » by Fierce1 » Tue May 23, 2023 9:59 am

The Heat really, really don't want to return to Boston.

Win one for the fans.

Who knows, this season has been a season of Celtic records broken by Jayson Tatum.

Maybe the Celts can become the first team ever in NBA history to win a series trailing 0-3. :lol:
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Post#93 » by Fierce1 » Tue May 23, 2023 9:59 am

If this series does return to Boston, I can assure you guys, Heat are not winning 3 straight games at the Garden.
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Post#94 » by Red2 » Tue May 23, 2023 10:39 am

Lakers got swept by the real mvp of the league. If We get swept by the Heat thst will be a helluva lot worse
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Post#95 » by Triple7 » Tue May 23, 2023 10:49 am

Red2 wrote:Lakers got swept by the real mvp of the league. If We get swept by the Heat thst will be a helluva lot worse


Getting swept by Gabe Vincent and martin lol.
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Post#96 » by Red2 » Tue May 23, 2023 11:57 am

What time does the plane leave for Cancun? Got the banana boat booked for tomorrow
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Post#97 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue May 23, 2023 12:02 pm

Win one. Teams have come back from being down 1-3 before.
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Post#98 » by Froob » Tue May 23, 2023 12:10 pm

Just give us one, and we come home to a rowdy Boston crowd.
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Post#99 » by tfribs45 » Tue May 23, 2023 12:54 pm

ESPN radio going over the 2023 Finals matchup of Nuggets vs Heat. If that doesn't motivate this group to get the W tonight, not sure there's any hope! Have some Celtic pride boysssss!
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Post#100 » by Triple7 » Tue May 23, 2023 12:56 pm

tfribs45 wrote:ESPN radio going over the 2023 Finals matchup of Nuggets vs Heat. If that doesn't motivate this group to get the W tonight, not sure there's any hope! Have some Celtic pride boysssss!


I think they are motivated to chuck off 100 3’s. Lol

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