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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#81 » by threrf23 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:04 am

SuperDeluxe wrote:For those of you mentioning Perk or any other former player -- it's not enough to be a former player, know a lot about basketball or having won accolades or whatever. You need to know how to teach and how to lead -- not everybody has that in them, especially the former.


No, but it also isn't ridiculous to theorize that we should have at least one assistant coach who has had experience as an NBA player, and/or at least one assistant coach who has prior experience on a different NBA coaching staff. It just seems healthy from the standpoint of wanting different perspectives.
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Post#82 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:53 am

We do have one-- Jerome Allen. Of the 30 current NBA head coaches, 21 never played in the league.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#83 » by Ed Pinkney » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:36 am

I’m more interested if you can coach or not, not your playing experience.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#84 » by Leprechaun18 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:09 am

Inserting spoilers to hide this users sexist post. I gave a public, open ended warning that there will be zero tolerance on sexism in this thread. You elected to proceed and now you’ll sit out the beginning of FA. I’ll re-post it here again for you.

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Re-opening. There will be zero tolerance on sexism in this topic.




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This move is just for PC. Silver stated he wanted it a few weeks back. Women cannot understand nor motivate male athletes like a male coach can.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#85 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:05 am

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Leprechaun18 wrote:This move is just for PC. Silver stated he wanted it a few weeks back. Women cannot understand nor motivate male athletes like a male coach can.


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Post#86 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:06 am

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canman1971 wrote:Can we focus on the super cool hire of a person who is qualified for a position that the Celtics wanted to fill without bringing up the freaking super all star Perkins? I mean, people come on?


How is she qualified? What coaching experience does she have?


Why don't you look her up and check her qualifications. She's got plenty.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#87 » by LewisnotMiller » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:07 am

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The Chief wrote:I hope she was chosen because she was the best candidate and not because of her gender.

With female referees and now coaches popping up suddenly in the last couple of years under Adam Silver's watch, I'm just curious about motives behind the hires. The goal is to win championships with the most talented people, male or female. If these are virtue signaling, "gender diversity" hires it degrades the integrity of the league.


I wonder why people don't ask this about every male hire?


Context matters. The reality is that professional business is still majority male. With the recent movement to install women in leadership roles simply because they're women, it's a question that's going to be raised. High level leadership and management roles are highly sought the world over and careers/salaries are on the line. If roles are filled solely based on gender and not on merit, it's a problem.


Sure. But failing to hire women can be a failure to hire on merit.
Anytime the best candidate isn't hired, this would apply, right?

Besides which, thinking of it as 'the best person' is simplistic in my opinion.
When I'm hiring, I'm trying to bolster my team. I might bring in people with particular skills my team is lacking, industry contacts, or diversity of background so I can get different perspectives and solutions offered.

The last thing I want are 6 of the 'best' candidates who are all similar in background, experience and skillset.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#88 » by LewisnotMiller » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:07 am

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Leprechaun18 wrote:This move is just for PC. Silver stated he wanted it a few weeks back. Women cannot understand nor motivate male athletes like a male coach can.


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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#89 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:17 am

Hope Cave doesn't look down this thread or it will be Wyclef Jean up in here.

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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#90 » by grindtime22 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:13 am

All I know is she was great on the Wizards broadcasts. She left a far better impression on me than the majority of NBA commentators.
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Post#91 » by ermocrate » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:05 am

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Disagree. Neither are difficult personalities in the locker room. Quite the opposite from what everyone says actually.

They don't have kids running around yelling they are the champs... Anyway Kahwi forced his way out of one of the best organizations in the world over a alleged "wrong diagnosys", not your regular Joe...


And yet most see that as a Spurs mistake than a Kawhi mistake.

I don’t get the point...

Anyway, the “not weird dude” just requested Magic in LAL meeting... lol
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#92 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:29 am

Leprechaun18 wrote:This move is just for PC. Silver stated he wanted it a few weeks back. Women cannot understand nor motivate male athletes like a male coach can.


Warned for being a sexist. Enjoy your vacation.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#93 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:38 am

bucknersrevenge wrote:Hope Cave doesn't look down this thread or it will be Wyclef Jean up in here.



As someone who enjoys his posts, I appreciate his restraint.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#94 » by Edug27 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:46 am

ermocrate wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
ermocrate wrote:They don't have kids running around yelling they are the champs... Anyway Kahwi forced his way out of one of the best organizations in the world over a alleged "wrong diagnosys", not your regular Joe...


And yet most see that as a Spurs mistake than a Kawhi mistake.

I don’t get the point...

Anyway, the “not weird dude” just requested Magic in LAL meeting... lol


My point is... Kawhi wouldn’t have a problem being coached by Brad and his non NBA veteran coaching staff. Neither would Lowry. They aren’t those kind of personalities... dudes like Kyrie and Lebron are the ones you want “former nba players on the staff” for.

But whatever. This is a lame debate anyway.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#95 » by m haynes » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:04 pm

I will be pissed,if Lawson was hired for any other reason then being a good coach. The only reason to hire Lawson, BBIQ

Saying "IF" doesn't make this not sexist.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#96 » by ermocrate » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:07 pm

Edug27 wrote:
ermocrate wrote:
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And yet most see that as a Spurs mistake than a Kawhi mistake.

I don’t get the point...

Anyway, the “not weird dude” just requested Magic in LAL meeting... lol


My point is... Kawhi wouldn’t have a problem being coached by Brad and his non NBA veteran coaching staff. Neither would Lowry. They aren’t those kind of personalities... dudes like Kyrie and Lebron are the ones you want “former nba players on the staff” for.

But whatever. This is a lame debate anyway.

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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#97 » by Edug27 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:02 pm

ermocrate wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
ermocrate wrote:I don’t get the point...

Anyway, the “not weird dude” just requested Magic in LAL meeting... lol


My point is... Kawhi wouldn’t have a problem being coached by Brad and his non NBA veteran coaching staff. Neither would Lowry. They aren’t those kind of personalities... dudes like Kyrie and Lebron are the ones you want “former nba players on the staff” for.

But whatever. This is a lame debate anyway.

Them oooor kids in their 20s getting drunk before a game... We need to address our weaknesses


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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#98 » by djFan71 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:17 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Leprechaun18 wrote:This move is just for PC. Silver stated he wanted it a few weeks back. Women cannot understand nor motivate male athletes like a male coach can.


Warned for being a sexist. Enjoy your vacation.

Seriously people. If your first thought is quotas or you think you need to say "just kidding" or put it in a spoiler, it's sexist. Keep it to yourself.

For reference, this is what a thread on an assistant coach hiring looks like:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1859061
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#99 » by djFan71 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:19 pm

m haynes wrote:I will be pissed,if Lawson was hired for any other reason then being a good coach. The only reason to hire Lawson, BBIQ

Enjoy the time off.
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Re: Celtics hire Kara Lawson as an assistant coach 

Post#100 » by celticfan42487 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:00 pm

djFan71 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Leprechaun18 wrote:This move is just for PC. Silver stated he wanted it a few weeks back. Women cannot understand nor motivate male athletes like a male coach can.


Warned for being a sexist. Enjoy your vacation.

Seriously people. If your first thought is quotas or you think you need to say "just kidding" or put it in a spoiler, it's sexist. Keep it to yourself.

For reference, this is what a thread on an assistant coach hiring looks like:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1859061


I'm shocked we had not 1 but 2 threads about hiring assistant coaches that are not former known head coaches in the league.

Does anyone outside of front offices know anything about assistant coaches?

Kind of impossible to have a substantive conversation.
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