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Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract!

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What should be the next step after Hayward opts in?

Remain on team for another Playoff run
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17%
Traded on draft night
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42%
Traded at deadline
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2%
Theres a belief Hayward and team wants to help facilitate a trade
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21%
Should sign a team friendly extension
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19%
 
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#241 » by celticfan42487 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:02 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:A few potential landing spots here for Hayward if he opts in and runs the length of his contract.

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Teams that think they're contenders (SAS, TOR)

and contenders on that list (DAL, LAL, MIA) would all love to pay Hayward more than we want to, and we will just as likely look a lot worse to him then others.

The real danger is him signing with the LAL for the MLE after they've won their second championship as the perfect 6th man for that team.

We can afford to lose ANOTHER max player on this team for NOTHING. Like we did with Irving and Horford.

We need to trade him to ensure this team doesn't fall off the cliff when Hayward leaves.

I'm even fine overpaying him to stay if we think that will help our ability to trade him.

I wouldn't bet on his body lasting in a significant way beyond 3 years from now though.
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Post#242 » by jmr07019 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:32 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:A few potential landing spots here for Hayward if he opts in and runs the length of his contract.

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Teams that think they're contenders (SAS, TOR)

and contenders on that list (DAL, LAL, MIA) would all love to pay Hayward more than we want to, and we will just as likely look a lot worse to him then others.

The real danger is him signing with the LAL for the MLE after they've won their second championship as the perfect 6th man for that team.

We can afford to lose ANOTHER max player on this team for NOTHING. Like we did with Irving and Horford.

We need to trade him to ensure this team doesn't fall off the cliff when Hayward leaves.

I'm even fine overpaying him to stay if we think that will help our ability to trade him.

I wouldn't bet on his body lasting in a significant way beyond 3 years from now though.


Fall off a cliff without Hayward?! He gave us 12/4/3 in the playoffs. I agree losing him and only having the MLE to replace him is not a good route to take but let’s not overstate things. He is not a top 4 talent on this team and you could argue Theis is more valuable due to fit.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#243 » by celticfan42487 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:42 pm

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celticfan42487 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:A few potential landing spots here for Hayward if he opts in and runs the length of his contract.


Teams that think they're contenders (SAS, TOR)

and contenders on that list (DAL, LAL, MIA) would all love to pay Hayward more than we want to, and we will just as likely look a lot worse to him then others.

The real danger is him signing with the LAL for the MLE after they've won their second championship as the perfect 6th man for that team.

We can afford to lose ANOTHER max player on this team for NOTHING. Like we did with Irving and Horford.

We need to trade him to ensure this team doesn't fall off the cliff when Hayward leaves.

I'm even fine overpaying him to stay if we think that will help our ability to trade him.

I wouldn't bet on his body lasting in a significant way beyond 3 years from now though.


Fall off a cliff without Hayward?! He gave us 12/4/3 in the playoffs. I agree losing him and only having the MLE to replace him is not a good route to take but let’s not overstate things. He is not a top 4 talent on this team and you could argue Theis is more valuable due to fit.


And yet we couldn't beat a zone defense without him so that alone gives him an argument for being more valuable than Theis or Smart.

That said, the important thing is to not lose that for nothing. He's a starter on this team, and last year before coming back about a month and a half early for injury in the playoffs was pretty clearly the 4th best player on the team.

We need to lock in at least better than a MLE player for him. Before his body is broken and he's just a John Wall contract on the books. I'm really concerned that could be as soon as the season after next and then he'll be untradable.

We need to at least get a good 6th man for him. Hell at this point I'll settle for a mid 20 something player locked in who is of the quality that Evan Turner was for us. Just someone we can keep around with this core as we look to get lucky in the draft (which is probably the only way we're going to get another great piece).
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Post#244 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:42 am

Smitty lays out the FA landscape, lists Gordon's options, and makes his prognostication with regards to Hayward's future.
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Post#245 » by 31to6 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:27 am

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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#246 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:14 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Dunno if this is an old pic (maybe before he returned to the bubble), but Gordo is in a boot. JackieMac did say he returned 2-3 weeks earlier than he should've. And I read somewhere there was nerve damage, but don't quote me on that.

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I want to say Simmons brought that up on a podcast with Jackie a week or two ago. Was the first I heard of it, and he may have been conflating his two different ankle injuries, but he did say it nonetheless.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#247 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:16 pm

31to6 wrote:“He loves mirror pics”


:lol: yah that made me spit out my coffee this AM :lol:
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#248 » by BillTheGOAT » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:57 pm

Did the NBA move the opt out date from 15th to 17th of october?
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Post#249 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:29 pm

BillTheGOAT wrote:Did the NBA move the opt out date from 15th to 17th of october?

Much later than October 17th. Still TBD. Likely to come after the draft (November 18) and before free agency starts (TBD). My GUESS is the week before Thanksgiving.
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Post#250 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:36 pm

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Post#251 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:25 pm

I wonder how much Hayward would get if he opted out and didn't mind signing with a lottery team. He'd be 2nd on this list.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#252 » by jfs1000d » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:48 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Dunno if this is an old pic (maybe before he returned to the bubble), but Gordo is in a boot. JackieMac did say he returned 2-3 weeks earlier than he should've. And I read somewhere there was nerve damage, but don't quote me on that.

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I want to say Simmons brought that up on a podcast with Jackie a week or two ago. Was the first I heard of it, and he may have been conflating his two different ankle injuries, but he did say it nonetheless.

He definitely trying to impregnate her again. lol .


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