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Post#121 » by thebirdman » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:57 am

FVV comparison is interesting. Height 6.2 to 6.1 and wingspan 6.4,5 to 6.2 in favour of PP. It would be nice if we finally got a steal end of the first round...
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Post#122 » by Half-Full » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:00 pm

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themoneyteam2 wrote:1st team all-American and PAC-12 POY but he sucks?

Just admit you haven't watched him play if you think that. 40% 3PT shooter who can come in and run the 2nd unit. Really good backup PG, in the mold of Van Vleet off the bench. Solid pick.

He is NOT FVV. For one, FVV is built like a brick wall.

Two, FVV was and is a demonstrably better shooter. Look up their college shooting.

Three, Carsen Edwards was an AA guard too, look how that has turned out. So was Jalen Brunson and while I like Brunson he's nothing more than a 15 MPG bench guy in the NBA. And honestly, Edwards and Brunson were meaningfully better college players than Pritchard.


FVV is the same size as Pritchard. Height and weight are almost identical, so are their college shooting stats.

FVV height = 6'1" weight = 197 lbs college 3-point % = .386 FG % = .426
Pritchard height = 6'1" weight = 206 lbs college 3-point % = .379 FG % = .437
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Post#123 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:42 pm

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Post#124 » by TheMartian » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:53 pm

Sorry I'm a bit confused. Pritchard's height is being listed between 6'1" and 6'3" by different sources. How tall is he, really?

I mean, when it comes to PG size, being 6 foot 3 has a huge advantage over being 6 foot 1 doesn't it?
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Post#125 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:54 pm

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captain green wrote:Tyrrell Terry and if dude even had one tenth of rozier talent it should pan out .you are fooling your self if you think this guy is better than rozier he is a jimmer fredite clone if I've ever seen one.


What makes him a Jimmer Fredette clone?

Let's start at the beginning
Four year college player, 6'2 190 area,
Jimeer than Payton
3p% 394 \379
Assists total 515 \ 659
Total points 2599\ 1938
Steals total 167\ 211
Games 139\ 144
Only difference I see is Payton is more well rounded and jimmer is better scorer shooter


Maybe.

I'll say this: Jimmer was drafted what, 8th overall? I'm too lazy to check but in the lottery which inflated his projections and value. Fredette was expected to come in and start and be amazing. And he was drafted by the Kings which speaks for itself. We drafted Pritchard at 26. We hope he can come off the bench and just hit some shots right now. And I think the environment he's walking into will be significantly more hospitable than what Fredette walked into.
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Post#126 » by 31to6 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:07 pm

TheMartian wrote:Sorry I'm a bit confused. Pritchard's height is being listed between 6'1" and 6'3" by different sources. How tall is he, really?

I mean, when it comes to PG size, being 6 foot 3 has a huge advantage over being 6 foot 1 doesn't it?


I think people who were disappointed in the pick because they didn’t know who he is keep rounding down to 6’1”. I’ve been more interested in his weight since it’s the first thing I’m looking at for PGs these days — I think I’ve seen from 185 to 210lbs for Pritchard.

NBA.com says 6’2” and 206lbs: https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/prospects/payton-pritchard#/

He was apparently not at the draft combine: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=HEIGHT_W_SHOES&dir=1
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Post#127 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:21 pm

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TheMartian wrote:Sorry I'm a bit confused. Pritchard's height is being listed between 6'1" and 6'3" by different sources. How tall is he, really?

I mean, when it comes to PG size, being 6 foot 3 has a huge advantage over being 6 foot 1 doesn't it?


I think people who were disappointed in the pick because they didn’t know who he is keep rounding down to 6’1”. I’ve been more interested in his weight since it’s the first thing I’m looking at for PGs these days — I think I’ve seen from 185 to 210lbs for Pritchard.

NBA.com says 6’2” and 206lbs: https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/prospects/payton-pritchard#/

He was apparently not at the draft combine: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?sort=HEIGHT_W_SHOES&dir=1


This is a good point. People keep referring to him as small. And maybe some of that is the wingspan. But he's not a weakling out there. Like Tyrell Terry, a guard many (including me) wanted instead is still under 180 I believe. Pritchard is pretty solidly built right now and it wouldn't surprise me to see him put on a little more muscle once he gets into the league. I think his playing weight is gonna hover close to 200 lbs. I think he'll compete at the defensive end. And more importantly, I think he'll score enough and make enough plays at the other end to counter those weaknesses at the other end.

My main takeaway after the bubble is just that we couldn't get ANYTHING from our bench to help us win. No shooting at all. Sure, at times Kemba's lack of size kinda hurt us with Toronto and Miami, but what really deflated us was the inability to consistently hit shots. Guys just started to hang their heads and that frustration would show up on defense. Wd had hoped Edwards could give us that lift but he never did. But I'm convinced that we were just one sharpshooter away from making the Finals and I've said as much here before. So to get Pritchard, and more to that point Nesmith can make a huge difference if they can play to their capabilities.
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Post#128 » by return2glory » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:42 pm

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Great interview and breakdown of his game. Thanks for posting this.
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Post#129 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:08 pm

Let nobody ever say this was a stupid pick. It may work out super-well. It may work out OK. It may flop. But it definitely wasn't stupid.
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Post#130 » by threrf23 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:54 pm

thebirdman wrote:FVV comparison is interesting. Height 6.2 to 6.1 and wingspan 6.4,5 to 6.2 in favour of PP. It would be nice if we finally got a steal end of the first round...


I hope so - but FVV is an example of how height and wingspan are often overrated more than he is a guy who is held back significantly by a couple of inches.

Wichita State was 121-15 in the four season FVV was running the show (at least, in the four seasons he was there), incl 9-4 in the tourney. Granted, they played a weak reg season schedule, but it's also worth noting that Ron Baker and Cleanthony Early were the only "NBA prospects" he played with. Pritchard led teams were 95-38. FVV posted slightly better stats almost across the board, although Pritchard's were comparable considering the increased level of competition.

Footspeed is the area where I am skeptical of this comparison. While it's tough for me to compare the two without combine results...

FVV's draftexpress page, from 2014, "Though the small guard isn't a freak athlete, he does possess impressive quickness and can be a pest when opposing guards are loose with their handle away from the rim." Pritchard's nbadraft.net capsule: "Foot speed limits his defensive ability at the next level to some degree."
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Post#131 » by 31to6 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:17 pm

return2glory wrote:
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Great interview and breakdown of his game. Thanks for posting this.


Mike Schmidt did an awesome job with all of these — hella nice and well prepared guy.

Payton looks like he's got either football eye black or Carlos Boozer’s hair marker for eyebrows though, damn!
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Post#132 » by greenroom31 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:29 pm

31to6 wrote:Mike Schmidt did an awesome job with all of these — hella nice and well prepared guy.

Payton looks like he's got either football eye black or Carlos Boozer’s hair marker for eyebrows though, damn!


Thank God someone else finally acknowledged this -- I was beginning to think I was crazy!

greenroom31 wrote:Not going to lie -- his eyebrow situation is a little unsettling.
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Post#133 » by ParticleMan » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:40 pm

he's like emilia clarke's long-lost younger brother.
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Post#134 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:03 pm

He definitely manicures his eyebrows. Maybe if he ends up being good it can be his trademark. The Brows.
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Post#135 » by jirrit » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:07 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:He definitely manicures his eyebrows. Maybe if he ends up being good it can be his trademark. The Brows.

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Post#136 » by themoneyteam2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:27 am



Cooking guys like Dinwiddie, Deandre Hunter, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, and others. Deep range and ridiculous handle and craftiness.
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Post#137 » by 31to6 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:41 am

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Cooking guys like Dinwiddie, Deandre Hunter, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, and others. Deep range and ridiculous handle and craftiness.


Great handle and shot. If he can translate his game to the next level (and he's a worker, think he can) and can pull from anywhere, imagine guarding him, JT, Nesmith all at the same time. Floor is gonna be so stretched they might have to move the front few rows back!
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Post#138 » by themoneyteam2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:15 am



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Post#139 » by flintsky21 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:01 am

Scrappy, gritty, with deep range. He'll be a fan-favorite in no time.
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Post#140 » by TommyPointGawd » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 pm

He does actually play like Kyrie from things I've watched. I wouldn't say he is the white Kyrie more the Walmart Kyrie with lay up package sold separately.

Edit- Canal Street Kyrie lol.
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