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Post#141 » by Half-Full » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:32 pm

Looking forward to Yam coming over. He looks like he is ready right now.
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Post#142 » by jirrit » Sat Apr 3, 2021 7:16 am



Didnt know he plays in the same team as James Young.
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Post#143 » by return2glory » Sat Apr 3, 2021 2:16 pm

He is starting to look good. Jumper looks nice. Looks like a pretty good passer and defensive player. His crossover and overall handles looks good too.

Thanks for the update videos, guys.
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Post#144 » by 31to6 » Sat Apr 3, 2021 4:53 pm

At some point, he is guaranteed to become better than Rondo.

Not sure how many years from now that is, or if it will make him NBA viable. But he’s a likable prospect!
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Post#146 » by Hal14 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:52 pm

I've been watching a lot of film of Madar and like what I see.

I think all he needs to is:

a) Get strong/bulk up a little more
b) Work on cutting down turnovers a little
c) Just keep getting more reps, more experience and try testing himself against better competition. Israel is the 5th ranked league in Europe though..

He's 20 now, and he may be ready to come over and help the Celtics next season at age 21.

We'll see, but he could turn out to be Tony Parker with better defense and more range on his shot.

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Post#147 » by cloverleaf » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:06 pm

The tricky thing is we've heard Stevens talk about how difficult it is to play two shorties now at the same time (Kemba and/or Pritchard and/or (previously) Teague. With Smart they already have three solids for the PG position next season (as it is I can't imagine Tremont back again, even on a two-way), and of them Kemba and Pritchard are both small. So I can't see Brad looking forward to another year with three smurfs--even with Waters gone.

Is Yam still under contract for another year with his Israeli team? Could Boston still retain his rights after that? Size/strength and his shot were the two biggest questions for Yam, and he seems to be on track to answer the latter. But another year to build strength and solidify his game and dominance where he is maybe wouldn't hurt--especially with Kemba more likely gone after another year here.
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Post#148 » by Half-Full » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:34 pm

cloverleaf wrote:The tricky thing is we've heard Stevens talk about how difficult it is to play two shorties now at the same time (Kemba and/or Pritchard and/or (previously) Teague. With Smart they already have three solids for the PG position next season (as it is I can't imagine Tremont back again, even on a two-way), and of them Kemba and Pritchard are both small. So I can't see Brad looking forward to another year with three smurfs--even with Waters gone.


Yam Madar is 6' 3", the same height as Marcus Smart, and also the average height of an NBA point guard. He's not really a smurf. You do have a point, though, about the PG position being filled, at least for now. If the Celtics decide to move Kemba... In any case, Yam is playing well, and looks to be ready. Will we see him for Summer League or training camp? It would be nice to see him matched up against NBA talent.
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Post#149 » by playa-hater » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:34 pm

31to6 wrote:At some point, he is guaranteed to become better than Rondo.

Not sure how many years from now that is, or if it will make him NBA viable. But he’s a likable prospect!


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Post#150 » by playa-hater » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:36 pm

Hal14 wrote:I've been watching a lot of film of Madar and like what I see.

I think all he needs to is:

a) Get strong/bulk up a little more
b) Work on cutting down turnovers a little
c) Just keep getting more reps, more experience and try testing himself against better competition. Israel is the 5th ranked league in Europe though..

He's 20 now, and he may be ready to come over and help the Celtics next season at age 21.

We'll see, but he could turn out to be Tony Parker with better defense and more range on his shot.

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I like that he has passing flair. that can be contagious. and we could use some of that. Dare I say the Israeli Melo :D
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Post#151 » by cloverleaf » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:55 pm

Half-Full wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:The tricky thing is we've heard Stevens talk about how difficult it is to play two shorties now at the same time (Kemba and/or Pritchard and/or (previously) Teague. With Smart they already have three solids for the PG position next season (as it is I can't imagine Tremont back again, even on a two-way), and of them Kemba and Pritchard are both small. So I can't see Brad looking forward to another year with three smurfs--even with Waters gone.


Yam Madar is 6' 3", the same height as Marcus Smart, and also the average height of an NBA point guard. He's not really a smurf. You do have a point, though, about the PG position being filled, at least for now. If the Celtics decide to move Kemba... In any case, Yam is playing well, and looks to be ready. Will we see him for Summer League or training camp? It would be nice to see him matched up against NBA talent.


Unfortunately he's so slight that he's just an elongated smurf at this point. Will there be a SL?
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Post#152 » by cloverleaf » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:58 pm

playa-hater wrote:
31to6 wrote:At some point, he is guaranteed to become better than Rondo.

Not sure how many years from now that is, or if it will make him NBA viable. But he’s a likable prospect!


:o :D


It is apparently easy to forget that Rondo was an AS for four years straight for the C's--and more likely than not to make the HoF.
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Post#153 » by jfs1000d » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:04 pm

Outside of us obsessing, any news on if we are going to bring him over?


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Post#154 » by 31to6 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:10 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
31to6 wrote:At some point, he is guaranteed to become better than Rondo.

Not sure how many years from now that is, or if it will make him NBA viable. But he’s a likable prospect!


:o :D


It is apparently easy to forget that Rondo was an AS for four years straight for the C's--and more likely than not to make the HoF.


I apologize for not being clear: I meant that at some point, Yam will become better than CURRENT Rondo. It might be in five years. But given that a trade deadline never passes without “BRING JOHNNY RONDO HOME” posts, it is something to look forward to.

I do not expect Madar to ever compete with Prime Rondo. Nor do I expect Rondo to make the HOF, though BBref’s formula is optimistic on his chances (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html)

But someone just said they think Yam could be Tony Parker with better defense and range, or the Israeli Melo Ball, so I understand how my post was easy to misconstrue.

I like him as a prospect. Hope he pans out for us.
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Post#155 » by Scoonie » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:11 pm

I'd like to see him develop in Israel or Europe for another year or two before bringing him over. I like his potential, but I think he's going to be physically overwhelmed in the NBA.
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Post#156 » by Hal14 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:50 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:The tricky thing is we've heard Stevens talk about how difficult it is to play two shorties now at the same time (Kemba and/or Pritchard and/or (previously) Teague. With Smart they already have three solids for the PG position next season (as it is I can't imagine Tremont back again, even on a two-way), and of them Kemba and Pritchard are both small. So I can't see Brad looking forward to another year with three smurfs--even with Waters gone.


Yam Madar is 6' 3", the same height as Marcus Smart, and also the average height of an NBA point guard. He's not really a smurf. You do have a point, though, about the PG position being filled, at least for now. If the Celtics decide to move Kemba... In any case, Yam is playing well, and looks to be ready. Will we see him for Summer League or training camp? It would be nice to see him matched up against NBA talent.


Unfortunately he's so slight that he's just an elongated smurf at this point. Will there be a SL?


Take a look at this:



3:04 opposing big drives the lane, Madar comes over from help size and blocks his shot attempt
3:16 swats away a 3 point shot attempt. Could any of our current 6'3" and under guys make a play like that? I don't know if I've ever seen Smart block a 3 point attempt..obviously Smart has made some blocks, but you really need to get up high to block a 3 point shooter at the top of his jump
3:22 help side block on opposing big in transition

Still think he's a smurf?
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Post#157 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:02 pm

He's a good prospect. Good stroke, good passer (very good at post entry passes from the highlights I've watched) quick feet on defense, seems to understand the game. If there is a Summer league next year, the Celtics should bring him over.
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Post#158 » by cloverleaf » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:18 pm

Hal14 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Yam Madar is 6' 3", the same height as Marcus Smart, and also the average height of an NBA point guard. He's not really a smurf. You do have a point, though, about the PG position being filled, at least for now. If the Celtics decide to move Kemba... In any case, Yam is playing well, and looks to be ready. Will we see him for Summer League or training camp? It would be nice to see him matched up against NBA talent.


Unfortunately he's so slight that he's just an elongated smurf at this point. Will there be a SL?


Take a look at this:

3:04 opposing big drives the lane, Madar comes over from help size and blocks his shot attempt
3:16 swats away a 3 point shot attempt. Could any of our current 6'3" and under guys make a play like that? I don't know if I've ever seen Smart block a 3 point attempt..obviously Smart has made some blocks, but you really need to get up high to block a 3 point shooter at the top of his jump
3:22 help side block on opposing big in transition

Still think he's a smurf?


Take a look at what?
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Post#159 » by Hal14 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:25 pm

Scoonie wrote:I'd like to see him develop in Israel or Europe for another year or two before bringing him over. I like his potential, but I think he's going to be physically overwhelmed in the NBA.

You might be right, but:

a) From the footage I've seen, I haven't seen him struggle on either end of the floor when going against bigger/stronger guys, in fact I've seen a few clips where he blocks or steals the ball from guys who are bigger/stronger than him so his smaller frame hasn't appeared to hold him back much

b) Steve Nash, Steph Curry, Rondo, Tony Parker are all PGs who were seen as frail when they came into the league and turned out ok. Parker came over to the Spurs from overseas when he was 19. If we bring Madar over next season, he'll be 21.
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Post#160 » by Hal14 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:26 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
Unfortunately he's so slight that he's just an elongated smurf at this point. Will there be a SL?


Take a look at this:

3:04 opposing big drives the lane, Madar comes over from help size and blocks his shot attempt
3:16 swats away a 3 point shot attempt. Could any of our current 6'3" and under guys make a play like that? I don't know if I've ever seen Smart block a 3 point attempt..obviously Smart has made some blocks, but you really need to get up high to block a 3 point shooter at the top of his jump
3:22 help side block on opposing big in transition

Still think he's a smurf?


Take a look at what?

My bad, I didn't realize I forgot to put the link in.

Just edited my other post..

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