celticfan42487 wrote: sully00 wrote:
Hayward into capspace, NYKs. TPE to Celtics.
Or same with Hawks.
Steven Adams is somewhere around 3x the player Turner is.
Steven Adams has an 8.6 on/off rating greater than Turner.
Myles Turner has had a negative on off rating for the past 2 years.
And every year since his sophmore year his on off rating has fallen. As the league gets more 3 point trick players from the big spot. Myles Turner is a more athletic but less aware and 0 passing talent version of Kelly 0.
Steven Adams is a dinasour, no different than Kanter the league has passed that style of big bye.
Turner and Sabonis are a bad fit and Sabonis has won out. They didn't even play them together until this year and Sabonis got to be the 5 and Turner the 4 and Turner paid the price.
While the post season didn't go well for IND Turner plaid well with Sabonis out very efficient and productive. Short sample but a sign of what he can do at the 5 vs the 4.
Please re read the plus minus and the importance of Defense, Rebounding, and screen setting in my post. You're quoting it and invalidates yours completely.
In case you haven't, it shows that Turner has decreased in on off every year since his sophmore season and has been a negative player (negative on off) for two years.
He is not in a good spot that is why you don't look at one metric you look at everything. Turner is not in a good spot. IND is better with Sabonis on the floor and the two can't play together efficiently.
By the measure you are using Enes Kanter was the second best Cetlics to Jayson Tatum last year and we gave him away.
So OKC sucked last season without Adams on the floor. To Adams credit his rebounding spiked last season. But he isn't a very versatile player, not an impact defender, not someone you can go to to get a bucket and doesn't have range.