OT: Found this on the Bucks board.

hiphop1 · Post #1 » by **hiphop1** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:33 pm

I didnt hear anything on this. This is a quote from a guy on their board.

Our local radio Bucks insider guy is saying the Redd/CV for TMac/Wells deal is still alive and they're talking still

Prophet_C · Post #2 » by **Prophet_C** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:38 pm

I'd do it if I were the Rockets. I can see Redd getting a lot of easy looks with Yao being on the court.

hiphop1 · Post #3 » by **hiphop1** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:41 pm

Thats what I was thinking. Plus they also get CV who would be great next to Yao.

LenBiasBaller · Post #4 » by **LenBiasBaller** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:53 pm

Damn thats crazy I never heard about this rumor...I guess the rockets are fed up with all of tmacs injuries? Isnt redd also pretty injury prone?

I dont get why the bucks would do this deal. CV is a PF with great size and length and and Redd is a very good shooter.

I really like the bucks team they have great depth at the PF/C position ...

Bogut
Yi
Gadzuric
Voskuhl
Charlie V.

Not too shabby...regardless you never trade bigs for smalls...

DorfonCeltics · Post #5 » by **DorfonCeltics** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:58 pm

Chris Broussard was just on ESPN's First Down saying he spoke to Houston's GM and there is absolutely no truth to them wanting to trade T-Mac. The Bucks would have to be smoking crack to do this deal anyway.

tombattor · Post #6 » by **tombattor** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:06 pm

If the Rockets can send T-Mac for Redd with some other insignificant pieces trading places, they will be a big time force. T-Mac is one of the biggest reasons the Rockets are not going anywhere. The Rockets have been playing quite well without T-Mac.

Prophet_C · Post #7 » by **Prophet_C** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:33 pm

LenBiasBaller wrote:Damn thats crazy I never heard about this rumor...I guess the rockets are fed up with all of tmacs injuries? Isnt redd also pretty injury prone?

I dont get why the bucks would do this deal. CV is a PF with great size and length and and Redd is a very good shooter.

I really like the bucks team they have great depth at the PF/C position ...

Bogut
Yi
Gadzuric
Voskuhl
Charlie V.

Not too shabby...regardless you never trade bigs for smalls...

TJ Ford says whattup.

threrf23 · Post #8 » by **threrf23** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:39 pm

1st, this thread should be labeled OT.

2nd, I do that trade in two seconds if I'm the Bucks. Redd is real good and all, but he doesn't have the all around game that T-Mac has. Charlie V is soft and overrated - plus the Rockets already have offense in their front court and outside shooting elsewhere.

tombattor · Post #9 » by **tombattor** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:11 pm

threrf23 wrote:1st, this thread should be labeled OT.

2nd, I do that trade in two seconds if I'm the Bucks. Redd is real good and all, but he doesn't have the all around game that T-Mac has. Charlie V is soft and overrated - plus the Rockets already have offense in their front court and outside shooting elsewhere.

1st, Rockets don't have outside shooting anywhere. That's their biggest problem. No one to stretch the D or keep the D from sagging down on Yao.

2nd, T-Mac kills that offense by forcing everyone to stand around and watch him take shot after shot. Yes, he's an excellent player, but not on that team.

wbc17 · Post #10 » by **wbc17** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:29 pm

Add Yi to the Rockets, and we'll see both Yao and Yi are starting for the Western All Star team next month

Post #11 » by **sully00** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:50 pm

With Bogut and YI CV is useless.

Redd is perhaps the worst defender at either wing position in the league, Wally may have a step on this guy.

Offensively I think it is great for Houston, perhaps fatal defensively.

It could work for MIL, T-Mac when healthy is a much more dynamic player than Redd but I just don't know that he will ever really be that guy again.

threrf23 · Post #12 » by **threrf23** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:41 pm

tombattor wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

1st, Rockets don't have outside shooting anywhere. That's their biggest problem. No one to stretch the D or keep the D from sagging down on Yao.

Battier, T-Mac, Alston, with Head/James/Novak and others off the bench. Luis Scola has a jump shot too. Aaron Brooks too. Some have been cold some aren't lights out by any means but they have more than enough jump shooting. They just haven't adjusted to Rick Adelman yet.

2nd, T-Mac kills that offense by forcing everyone to stand around and watch him take shot after shot. Yes, he's an excellent player, but not on that team.

I've heard Bucks fans complain about Redd too....again the whole team hasn't adjusted to Rick Adelman yet IMO. If I'm the Rockets I'm not giving up on T-Mac because I need him if I want to do anything real big.

LenBiasBaller · Post #13 » by **LenBiasBaller** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:43 pm

Prophet_C wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

TJ Ford says whattup.

Thats the rule amongst GM's. That was actually the only trade that I thought of before posting that work out decent until TJ got hurt. Look at all the teams trying to get Garnett, mchale was only going to trade if he got a big back. Bynum, Stadamire, Big Al...etc.

Prophet_C · Post #14 » by **Prophet_C** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:59 pm

LenBiasBaller wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Thats the rule amongst GM's. That was actually the only trade that I thought of before posting that work out decent until TJ got hurt. Look at all the teams trying to get Garnett, mchale was only going to trade if he got a big back. Bynum, Stadamire, Big Al...etc.

I know the rule. I just thought I'd throw that out there.

theman · Post #15 » by **theman** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:15 pm

LenBiasBaller wrote:Damn thats crazy I never heard about this rumor...I guess the rockets are fed up with all of tmacs injuries? Isnt redd also pretty injury prone?

Redd is an Iron Man compared to TMac.

s1ickd · Post #16 » by **s1ickd** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 pm

if TMAC is smart, he OK's this deal. Bogut/Yi is a promising frontcourt, and Mo is a good point gaurd (something he doesnt have in Houston). Most importantly, a lineup of...

Bogut
Yi
Tmac
Wells
Mo

... would make the playoffs easily if they played defense in the east. with a coupe emerging teams, the rockets are going to havea hard time making the playoffs.

Rocky5000 · Post #17 » by **Rocky5000** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:27 am

I like that trade. Wells is definitely underutilized in Houston. As we saw in the last matchup with Houston, he's a very explosive scorer, excellent rebounder for his size, and a good to great defender. Tmac's health would be the only concern for me if I was Milwaukee in not pushing the deal through.

What if they also added in Yi for Scola? I think a Yi and Yao pairing would be pretty cool.

theman · Post #18 » by **theman** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:12 pm

Yi >>>>>> Coca Scola.

But is would be cool if he and Yao were on the same team. Then they need to trade with LA to get Sun.

For what it's worth s1ickd I'm not sure Mo Williams is any better than Rafer Alston. He maybe a better scorer but is not a better distributer.

Post #19 » by **UGA Hayes** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:22 pm

Redd is a really selfish player. Its easy to have misconception about him b/c off the court he presents himself as a choir boy, but on the court only Kobe takes more inexscusable shots to the exsclusion of open teammates. Even on team USA he was an unrepentant chucker.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #20 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:49 pm

theman wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Redd is an Iron Man compared to TMac.

This is why I don't think the deal will go down from our end. Our franchise can't afford to deal with TMac missing 20 games a year.

We've heard from one of our insiders on our board that the Rockets were never truly serious about moving TMac, but they were floating his name out there to see what kind of value he carries around the league.

Our owner Kohl, was burned by the Ray Allen deadline trade a few years back and most likely never will allow Redd to be traded at the deadlilne. If anything a trade might go down in the offseason. Our GM is a lame duck who approved the trade to acquire Zach Randolph for CV/Simmons/Gadzuric only to have it overturned by the owner, Kohl.

Recently our offensive philosophy has taken a significant shift from Redd throwing up jumpers and running isos all game to actually running the offense thru Bogut. We haven't been winning, but we've been playing much better, smarter basketball that will work out in the long run.

I am a Bucks fan first and foremost, but the Celtics have always been my second team since they got Paul Pierce. Always loved the guy and good to see you guys doing well with two of my other favorite players in the league, Ray and KG.