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Post#61 » by youngcrev » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:32 pm

The team still needs a big wing defender. We'll see what happens with Tucker. Melton seems like he can eat some minutes on those types, but wouldn't be ideal as our primary option to do so.
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Post#62 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:44 pm

I think we ideally need one more wing defender. Tobias showed an ability to play solid defense against lesser wings. I’m comfortable with him on Middleton for example in a Milwaukee matchup. But we definitely need someone to throw at the Jays in Boston and Jimmy.

Maybe that’s PJ or maybe we keep Thybulle and hope he’s playable. It’ll be interesting to see how the roster shakes out.
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Post#63 » by SixersFanInNY » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:09 pm

I like the trade, though Melton (like anybody else drafted at 23) is not going to fix the roster by himself. But this makes the backcourt very small with Harden at 6'5, and Melton and Maxey both at 6'2 (going by ESPN stats). The 3 of them should not be on the court together so this is a move to bolster the bench, which is very needed.

Now the Sixers need to get/grow a rebounder, an Embiid backup, and a 2 way wing for the bench.
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Post#64 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:20 pm

SixersFanInNY wrote:I like the trade, though Melton (like anybody else drafted at 23) is not going to fix the roster by himself. But this makes the backcourt very small with Harden at 6'5, and Melton and Maxey both at 6'2 (going by ESPN stats). The 3 of them should not be on the court together so this is a move to bolster the bench, which is very needed.

Now the Sixers need to get/grow a rebounder, an Embiid backup, and a 2 way wing for the bench.


Melton has a 6-7 or 6-8 wingspan and was able to guard SF types fine. Infact prior to this season he played SF in Memphis I believe.
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Post#65 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:21 pm

Still need two more wings though, adding just one won't be enough.
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Post#66 » by Iverson Armband » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:06 pm

I’m coming around a bit more on Melton. I was skeptical because of the height factor, but does 2 inches really matter all that much? If he were 6’4, we’d all be ecstatic saying we got a little less explosive Jordan Poole who can actually defend. That’s a pretty damn good player. His insane wingspan is good for atleast an extra inch of height that he lacks.

Just need to trade Tobias for a starting wing (KCP) and start Reed at the 4 with an early Melton sub as needed. That would be a nice little rotation.
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Post#67 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:16 pm

Melton is over 6'3" in shoes and his wingspan is over 6'9".

We'll be ok running 6'2" Maxey (6'8" wing), 6'3" Melton (6'9" wing), and 6'5" Harden (6'11" wing) as our 1-3 in small-ball lineups at times.

However, we can't count on it. We NEED a couple of larger playable wings.
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Post#68 » by Embiid-MVP » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:42 pm

The people complaining about his playoff stats.. he may of been playing with Morant but embiid attracts a lot of attention down low and harden will be feeding him pretty much wide open looks. He'll be perfectly fine and you guys are so overreacting but that's pretty normal around here
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Post#69 » by deep6er » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:48 pm

You all are acting like this move is brilliant or a catastrophe. That's dumb.

Melton is a good pick up and will give us immediate help which is more than we would have gotten at #23, but he's a 6th man. He will be really helpful playing next to Maxey or Harden while the other one sits, but he won't start and he wont fix everything with this team.

He's also not going to ruin this team. If you watched a lot of Memphis games this year (which you should have, they're fun) you'd have seen a really good man defender who can guard 1,2 or 3. He rebounds well for a guy his size. He has a nice shot, there is nothing broken about it and the playoff percentage drops don't scare me at all. He also can dribble and pass the basketball. He's not amazing with the ball in his hands but he's fully competent which is more than I can say for most of our role players (Danny, Niang, Matisse).

He's just good, and you need good bench players to succeed in the playoffs. But more than that, you need a starting SF and we don't have one, so let's wait and see before we start making too big a deal about this move.
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Post#70 » by M2J » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:19 pm

I look at it as a strong replacement to Danny Green. Something that is definitely needed. Which also makes him a potential starter over Thybulle. Should he return.

How could you not like that?. I also agree regarding playing in the postseason with Harden and Embiid is different than an upstart young grizzly team. But besides that, it's very common for three-point shooters to struggle in the postseason. Often times they're either hot or cold. You just want him to be hot enough and certain games. This player is young enough to improve however on that skill set.

Very strong move in the right direction by Morey. Also nice that melton does come with some postseason experience.
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Post#71 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:26 pm

He's a potential above average addition with a very safe floor. Meaning that he could possibly get even better, but if he stays the same, he is still a valuable very playable addition. I'm not worried about his playoff numbers until he sucks for US in the playoffs. Until then, I'm going to trust Morey on this one.
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Post#72 » by zaz102 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:09 pm

Good start to offseason, but more importantly they need to fill their hole at forward.

If they are able get a 2 for 1 for Harris, a serviceable 3rd F vet, and an solid backup C (that will hopefully be a battle between BBPaul and Bassey).

Then of course Maxey takes the next leap.
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Post#73 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:30 pm

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Post#74 » by elchengue20 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:54 pm

After watching some tape im liking this move even more now. Hes exactly the kind of role player we are lacking.

He also plays way bigger than his listed height. Hes similar to Gary Payton jr in that sense.

It looks like Morey found awesome value once again in another complementary player.
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Post#75 » by MVP1992 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:03 am

Just hoping it's not a George Hill 2.0
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Post#76 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:08 am

Per 36

Haliburton (with Kings last season)
14.9ppg
2.5 stocks
4.3 rpg
8apg
2.1 3/g

Melton
17.2 ppg (comparable to Haliburton as lead guard with Pacers)
3.1 stocks
7rpg
4.2 apg
3.0 3/g

Melton more of a scorer, better shooter, better defensive player and better rebounder than Haliburton who’s only clearly better as a facilitator.
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Post#77 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:31 am

MVP1992 wrote:Just hoping it's not a George Hill 2.0
George Hill was old an
S dirt and came off an injury.

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Post#78 » by stormi » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:39 am

76ciology wrote:Per 36

Haliburton (with Kings last season)
14.9ppg
2.5 stocks
4.3 rpg
8apg
2.1 3/g

Melton
17.2 ppg (comparable to Haliburton as lead guard with Pacers)
3.1 stocks
7rpg
4.2 apg
3.0 3/g

Melton more of a scorer, better shooter, better defensive player and better rebounder than Haliburton who’s only clearly better as a facilitator.


Both are tremendous players. I think this sort of trait breakdown should help emphasize why I think Mr. 180 M's is not a good basketball player.

When you just compared Melton and Haliburton, you wanted to see what they excel at. What's their specialty. Haliburton is a game changing playmaker - and both of them knock down 3's on heavy volume while causing disruption defensively.

Hali's numbers ballooned even more in Indiana, bad team / high usage effect I'm sure - but he was averaging over 17 on 62% TS with a 38.9% assist rate to 18.9% turnover while shooting over seven 3's per 100 at 41.6%. Mind numbingly elite at all facets, and he's only 21.

Melton is an elite defender that sprays 3's and has untapped scoring potential at only 24.

Harris' combined stocks (all stats per 36) are... below 1.5 (sad), and he only hits 1.4 3's (sad). Assists only a meager 3.6 as well (sad), and those 17.8 points are being scored with an efficiency of 56.6% TS (mediocre).

Just an extremely boring and replaceable low impact roleplayer that doesn't do anything exceptionally well - unlike Hali and Melton.

We simply deserve better.
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Post#79 » by Wilfried » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:58 am

Can't see why anyone could complain about DeAnthony Melton. Great add, still young and improving player, decent contract. Fits perfectly next to Harden.
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Post#80 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:21 am

stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:Per 36

Haliburton (with Kings last season)
14.9ppg
2.5 stocks
4.3 rpg
8apg
2.1 3/g

Melton
17.2 ppg (comparable to Haliburton as lead guard with Pacers)
3.1 stocks
7rpg
4.2 apg
3.0 3/g

Melton more of a scorer, better shooter, better defensive player and better rebounder than Haliburton who’s only clearly better as a facilitator.


Both are tremendous players. I think this sort of trait breakdown should help emphasize why I think Mr. 180 M's is not a good basketball player.

When you just compared Melton and Haliburton, you wanted to see what they excel at. What's their specialty. Haliburton is a game changing playmaker - and both of them knock down 3's on heavy volume while causing disruption defensively.

Hali's numbers ballooned even more in Indiana, bad team / high usage effect I'm sure - but he was averaging over 17 on 62% TS with a 38.9% assist rate to 18.9% turnover while shooting over seven 3's per 100 at 41.6%. Mind numbingly elite at all facets, and he's only 21.

Melton is an elite defender that sprays 3's and has untapped scoring potential at only 24.

Harris' combined stocks (all stats per 36) are... below 1.5 (sad), and he only hits 1.4 3's (sad). Assists only a meager 3.6 as well (sad), and those 17.8 points are being scored with an efficiency of 56.6% TS (mediocre).

Just an extremely boring and replaceable roleplayer that doesn't do a single thing exceptionally well - unlike Hali and Melton.

WE deserve better.



Tobias made sense when we had Ben, that time we were thirsty for offense with limited assets.

Tobias didnt play as well as he did last season compared to 2020-2021 season.

But he adjusted to his role and played well in the playoffs (he shot almost 50-40-90) with team high of 3BPM. He was great on defense most of the Raps series (except for the last two games), he rebounds as well as PJ Tucker. He shot 3s better than Mikal Bridges. He was never hunted on defense. He’s the type of player that can play in the playoffs because he can score efficiently and is not a liability on the defensive end. Reports have it that even the locker room wants him to stay for this season.

I think right now with an Embiid who shows decline on defense and our fetish for putting guards at the SF position, Tobias has to go.

Tobias has to go, not because he is a bad player. But its because he’s not good enough for what we need.

When we had Ben, we need him to be a number 2 option on offense. While right now, we need to load up on size at the 4&5 positions. I think we can play Reed at the 4. Reed and Melton at the 3&4 spots looks really good with Harden, Embiid and Maxey carrying the offense.

Maxey
Harden
Melton
Reed
Embiid

Or

Maxey
Harden
Melton
Embiid
Bassey

Are the two 5 man units I think would be best for the team. Whereas Melton takes Tobias’ 17ppg per 36 scoring that allows us to place a guy who can move the needle in rebounding and defense.
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