The official Josh Minott thread

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Dane Moore speculated on his podcast that he could see Minott be a two-way player. So only two rookies would be taking up roster spots on the 15.

[KGdaBom]

In researching Minott he appears to be the ultimate swing for the fences pick. A very sexy and trendy selection. Odds are he never amounts to anything, but he has athleticism that could potentially make him a star.

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[Shaka_Zulu]

In clips he seems like a super athletic defensive bigman /power forward on the skinny side. Can't shoot but dunks everything and swats everything. Ridiculous athleticism.


Colour me suprised when I see his position listed as SG/SF lol. It fits his body type, but not necessarily the skillset you see in the clips.


Comes off as a tweener forward size wise like Mcdaniels or Isaacs. But only superficial comparison in the defensive side (eye popping good impressions in the clips), while in offense he seems only to be a roll man on dunker spot.


Which is fine for a 45th pick. Hope he fleshes out as a player in G league, cuz he has crazy athletic potential on first glance. Allways on the move and quick riser in defense and offense around basket.

[minimus]

He should not be allowed to shoot off the dribble, because his footwork is non existent. He should practice corner 3s all day. This type of energy and defense + corner 3s will make him a NBA player.

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I would say he's a 3/4. I think my comp is probably Hollis-Jefferson.

[TheZachAttack]

Posters above me have mentioned that in many ways his highlights make him look like a big. In many ways, that could be true but I think he can play a similar type of defensive role as McDaniels where he can guard teams primary ball handlers at the top of the key and also switch down to bigger players and provide verticality and weakside shot blocking help. His swing skill will be if he can develop a corner 3.

I think if he doesn’t his size would allow him to play an offensive role similar to Vando or Brandon Clarke if his defensive is good enough—think you want him as a 3 versus a 4 so if he can’t shoot you need to have certain personal that can accommodate that.

In addition, here’s his shot in workouts. I think it looks solid here but obviously a game is a different story. Vanderbilt or Clarke don’t look like this shooting.

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[Nick K]

Posters above me have mentioned that in many ways his highlights make him look like a big. In many ways, that could be true but I think he can play a similar type of defensive role as McDaniels where he can guard teams primary ball handlers at the top of the key and also switch down to bigger players and provide verticality and weakside shot blocking help. His swing skill will be if he can develop a corner 3.

I think if he doesn’t his size would allow him to play an offensive role similar to Vando or Brandon Clarke if his defensive is good enough—think you want him as a 3 versus a 4 so if he can’t shoot you need to have certain personal that can accommodate that.

In addition, here’s his shot in workouts. I think it looks solid here but obviously a game is a different story. Vanderbilt or Clarke don’t look like this shooting.

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I love these unedited shooting drills. I was surprised his form was much better than I expected. He's slow getting it off but there is hope for big improvement. I love taking a big swing at this guy where we did.

[TheZachAttack]

Posters above me have mentioned that in many ways his highlights make him look like a big. In many ways, that could be true but I think he can play a similar type of defensive role as McDaniels where he can guard teams primary ball handlers at the top of the key and also switch down to bigger players and provide verticality and weakside shot blocking help. His swing skill will be if he can develop a corner 3.

I think if he doesn’t his size would allow him to play an offensive role similar to Vando or Brandon Clarke if his defensive is good enough—think you want him as a 3 versus a 4 so if he can’t shoot you need to have certain personal that can accommodate that.

In addition, here’s his shot in workouts. I think it looks solid here but obviously a game is a different story. Vanderbilt or Clarke don’t look like this shooting.

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I love these unedited shooting drills. I was surprised his form was much better than I expected. He's slow getting it off but there is hope for big improvement. I love taking a big swing at this guy where we did.

Yup! If he can hit open catch and shoot shots that’s huge. There is a video in the reply of his form coming out of HS and it’s AMAZINGLY better. Makes me think he’s a guy who works on him a game and can improve it. Also a good explanation for the 14%. I’m optimistic that he’s better in the future and hopefully he has the body control and feel for his shot where if he improves his form he will see it start to go in.

[Neeva]

I still say he will be McDaniels lite for us , which will be a good rotation piece in the future.

[Nick K]

Posters above me have mentioned that in many ways his highlights make him look like a big. In many ways, that could be true but I think he can play a similar type of defensive role as McDaniels where he can guard teams primary ball handlers at the top of the key and also switch down to bigger players and provide verticality and weakside shot blocking help. His swing skill will be if he can develop a corner 3.

I think if he doesn’t his size would allow him to play an offensive role similar to Vando or Brandon Clarke if his defensive is good enough—think you want him as a 3 versus a 4 so if he can’t shoot you need to have certain personal that can accommodate that.

In addition, here’s his shot in workouts. I think it looks solid here but obviously a game is a different story. Vanderbilt or Clarke don’t look like this shooting.

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I love these unedited shooting drills. I was surprised his form was much better than I expected. He's slow getting it off but there is hope for big improvement. I love taking a big swing at this guy where we did.

Yup! If he can hit open catch and shoot shots that’s huge. There is a video in the reply of his form coming out of HS and it’s AMAZINGLY better. Makes me think he’s a guy who works on him a game and can improve it. Also a good explanation for the 14%. I’m optimistic that he’s better in the future and hopefully he has the body control and feel for his shot where if he improves his form he will see it start to go in.

I think you can say that too about Kessler improving his shooting.

I don't think there is any chance our evaluators take either guy if they weren't convinced they had the ability and work ethic to make it happen.

I am so happy with our front office on how they conducted this draft.

[cupcakesnake]

I still say he will be McDaniels lite for us , which will be a good rotation piece in the future.

One promising skill he has that McDaniels lacks is his rebounding. He was a beast boxing out all year. If he's a rotation guy for us soon that will be invaluable.

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Such a wide range of outcomes on him. I see the upside, but I also see how raw he is. I think it's gonna take awhile.

[shrink]

I was shocked that John Hollinger had Minott ranked 10th on his board for The Athletic!

10. Josh Minott | 6-8 freshman | SF/PF | Memphis

Jalen Duren and, to a lesser extent, Emoni Bates got a lot of the attention on Memphis this year, while Minott saw his role fluctuate wildly, and he was hardly playing by the end of the year. Minott is also a bad shooter (2 of 14 on 3s in 2021-22) and will be 19 1/2 on draft day, making him a bit old for a freshman.

And yet … the analytics on Minott are really impressive, with a sky-high steal rate of a big forward (3.6 per 100 possessions in AAC play), a positive assist-turnover rate and a 14.4 percent rebound rate despite often paying next to a lottery center. History says it would be folly to ignore a player who passes this deftly and gets his hand on this many balls at the defensive end. Even the shooting has some promise — he hit 75.4 percent from the line. It’s not like he was an empty offensive force either, scoring a very respectable 25.3 points per 100 possessions. He didn’t play much, but when he did, he was quite effective.

Defensively, Minott can be tight-hipped and slow with his first slide, and a bit over-reliant on using his hands to compensate for it. He also picks up a lot of fouls that way, part of his insane foul rate (6.2 per 100 possessions).

That said, Minott probably plays closer to the dribbler of any other player I saw in this size class, which is notable — players tell on themselves by how much cushion they give the dribbler. Minott has tremendous hands and long arms and legs; he uses the former to flick the ball from unsuspecting dribblers, and the latter to make up ground if he’s initially beat. Minott goes for the ball a bit too often, a high-risk strategy that can leave an open downhill run if it fails, and because he’s thin and has a high center of gravity, he can pick up fouls when opponents get into his body or spin off him.

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I was shocked that John Hollinger had Minott ranked 10th on his board for The Athletic!

10. Josh Minott | 6-8 freshman | SF/PF | Memphis

Jalen Duren and, to a lesser extent, Emoni Bates got a lot of the attention on Memphis this year, while Minott saw his role fluctuate wildly, and he was hardly playing by the end of the year. Minott is also a bad shooter (2 of 14 on 3s in 2021-22) and will be 19 1/2 on draft day, making him a bit old for a freshman.

And yet … the analytics on Minott are really impressive, with a sky-high steal rate of a big forward (3.6 per 100 possessions in AAC play), a positive assist-turnover rate and a 14.4 percent rebound rate despite often paying next to a lottery center. History says it would be folly to ignore a player who passes this deftly and gets his hand on this many balls at the defensive end. Even the shooting has some promise — he hit 75.4 percent from the line. It’s not like he was an empty offensive force either, scoring a very respectable 25.3 points per 100 possessions. He didn’t play much, but when he did, he was quite effective.

Defensively, Minott can be tight-hipped and slow with his first slide, and a bit over-reliant on using his hands to compensate for it. He also picks up a lot of fouls that way, part of his insane foul rate (6.2 per 100 possessions).

That said, Minott probably plays closer to the dribbler of any other player I saw in this size class, which is notable — players tell on themselves by how much cushion they give the dribbler. Minott has tremendous hands and long arms and legs; he uses the former to flick the ball from unsuspecting dribblers, and the latter to make up ground if he’s initially beat. Minott goes for the ball a bit too often, a high-risk strategy that can leave an open downhill run if it fails, and because he’s thin and has a high center of gravity, he can pick up fouls when opponents get into his body or spin off him.

Keep in mind Hollinger has also previously had Rondae Hollis-Jefferson worth like $10-15 million, when he can't even get a minimum contract in the league.

[jpatrick]

Although I like the Minott pick, gotta take Hollinger’s analysis here with a grain of salt. He basis it primarily on Minott’s defensive advanced stats (block/steal percentages), but it’s a very small sample size. Minott barely played for Memphis last year and wasn’t playing at all basically by the end of the year. Hollinger also liked that Minott moved his feet well defensively.

Hollinger does this. I think for shock value to some extent. He did something similarly a couple years ago, having Paul Reed as a lotto pick.

Minott may eventually become a Vanderbilt or McDaniels type defensive forward, but I’d be shocked if he got any NBA minutes for a couple years.

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I heard an interview from the season where Memphis folks thought Minott might not be done growing. Maybe it’s a bad angle, but Minott looks closer in height to Kessler (7’0.25” barefoot) than Moore (6’4.25” barefoot). Thoughts?

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[KGdaBom]

I heard an interview from the season where Memphis folks thought Minott might not be done growing. Maybe it’s a bad angle, but Minott looks closer in height to Kessler (7’0.25” barefoot) than Moore (6’4.25” barefoot). Thoughts?

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Boy which is he closer in height to. 6'8.25" places him dead center. I'm going with 6'8.5" and closer to Kessler.