Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0

[76ciology]

Overall, the more I look at Banchero. I think their FO just think Banchero is way superior on offense while offense is king, specially with how the Magic roster is built that Banchero could even just cruise on defense.

Other than his positional passing (which is solid), I wonder what is leading them to believe he is superior on offense? His jumpshot is far below the other guys.

Im listening to a pod, since im trying to understand this Banchero pick with lots of free time right now, they say if he just made 6 straight 3s, he would have averaged 42% from 3 this season. And they say he turned it up on shooting 3 in his last x months (will check it again).

Right now, he possibly can be just as good of a scorer as Tatum with passing ability. Possibly.. not guaranteed

[blargh]

Overall, the more I look at Banchero. I think their FO just think Banchero is way superior on offense while offense is king, specially with how the Magic roster is built that Banchero could even just cruise on defense.

Other than his positional passing (which is solid), I wonder what is leading them to believe he is superior on offense? His jumpshot is far below the other guys.

Im listening to a pod, since im trying to understand this Banchero pick with lots of free time right now, they say if he just made 6 straight 3s, he would have averaged 42% from 3 this season.

Isn’t that just another way of saying he shot a low volume of 3’s?

That’s like saying if Ben Simmons hit 6 straight 3’s , he would have averaged 80% for us

Anyway, I haven’t watched a whole lot of Paulo Okafor - I mean Banchero - so I wish the young man well.

[Kobblehead]

Im listening to a pod, since im trying to understand this Banchero pick with lots of free time right now, they say if he just made 6 straight 3s, he would have averaged 42% from 3 this season. And they say he turned it up on shooting 3 in his last x months (will check it again).

I know the Ringer dudes all talked themselves into Banchero. I just don't see it.

Looking at his shooting splits, the hottest month for him was March where he shot 41.4% through 9 games, but it was at low volume (only 12 makes). And that same month, he shot a putrid 65.1% from the free throw line.

All the appeal in him, to me, is just of the shallow nature being that's he's 6'10" 250 and can handle and pass. Often, he was a man among boys and just got easy buckets against non-professional basketball player types. At the NBA level, where more skill is required, I can see him just being an empty buckets guy.

[Kobblehead]

Right now, he possibly can be just as good of a scorer as Tatum with passing ability. Possibly.. not guaranteed

I just don't see that right now. Tatum was too far advanced skill-wise, from where Banchero is. I think he's closer in skill to Parker.

Jayson Tatum: 34.2% from three, 84.9% from free throw
Jabrari Parker: 35.8% from three, 74.8% from free throw
Paolo Banchero: 33.8% from three, 72.9% from free throw

[Negrodamus]

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Guarantee if we traded Tobias for him, Tobias would win a championship with the Hawks. It’s just the way NBA karma works.

[Kobblehead]

I still don't get the beef Collins has with playing with Young. Yeah, Trae has a lot of FGA, but most lead Gs do in the modern NBA. You're not going to find a better passer in the league than Trae, though.

[mjkvol]

Im listening to a pod, since im trying to understand this Banchero pick with lots of free time right now, they say if he just made 6 straight 3s, he would have averaged 42% from 3 this season. And they say he turned it up on shooting 3 in his last x months (will check it again).

I know the Ringer dudes all talked themselves into Banchero. I just don't see it.

Looking at his shooting splits, the hottest month for him was March where he shot 41.4% through 9 games, but it was at low volume (only 12 makes). And that same month, he shot a putrid 65.1% from the free throw line.

All the appeal in him, to me, is just of the shallow nature being that's he's 6'10" 250 and can handle and pass. Often, he was a man among boys and just got easy buckets against non-professional basketball player types. At the NBA level, where more skill is required, I can see him just being an empty buckets guy.

They picked by far the worst of the 'top 4', not even close. I don't study it to the extent you guys do, but watching a few Duke games and YT vids of all four guys, and I can't even come up with a rationalization for picking him, especially given the choices. It's like you said, he was a man among boys in college. Wake up call is coming.

[mjkvol]

Hopefully this puts to rest any foolishness about trading for him.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-rumors-bradley-beal-expected-to-sign-248-million-max-extension-with-wizards-this-summer-per-report/

[Negrodamus]

I'd reconsider holding out if I were John Wall this year.

Wall, Green, Porter jr, Jabari, and Sengun with Tari Eason and Josh Christopher coming off the bench is very tough. Very good distribution of talent, problem is they are exceptionally young.

[Negrodamus]

Slightly related note:

Everyone loves certain role players we see show up on playoff teams.. well the breeding grounds of those players are on OKC, Hou, Orlando, and Detroit. Those guys have sucked for quite a bit of time while playing in a chaotic, young system. Some of those guys will find ways to carve out roles on winning teams in the near future whether by FA or by trade. OKC is by far the biggest hoarder of those kind of guys: Darius Bazley, Poku, Tre Mann, Kenrich Williams, Dort, Aaron Wiggins... I mean, come one. Lots of two way guys or great creators there.

[76thBearCub]

Beal is smart to sign that

[stormi]

Slightly related note:

Everyone loves certain role players we see show up on playoff teams.. well the breeding grounds of those players are on OKC, Hou, Orlando, and Detroit. Those guys have sucked for quite a bit of time while playing in a chaotic, young system. Some of those guys will find ways to carve out roles on winning teams in the near future whether by FA or by trade. OKC is by far the biggest hoarder of those kind of guys: Darius Bazley, Poku, Tre Mann, Kenrich Williams, Dort, Aaron Wiggins... I mean, come one. Lots of two way guys or great creators there.

Which is why the Melton trade was so good.

24 year old multifaceted guard buried on a deep team that could really explode, and under contract for the next two seasons.

Would like for him to do it again for an undervalued wing player.

Chuma Okeke?

[76ciology]

Right now, he possibly can be just as good of a scorer as Tatum with passing ability. Possibly.. not guaranteed

I just don't see that right now. Tatum was too far advanced skill-wise, from where Banchero is. I think he's closer in skill to Parker.

Jayson Tatum: 34.2% from three, 84.9% from free throw
Jabrari Parker: 35.8% from three, 74.8% from free throw
Paolo Banchero: 33.8% from three, 72.9% from free throw

This would be a good article for you to check, given on how you compare PB with some NBA guys he compare with
https://deanondraft.com/2022/03/24/where-does-paolo-banchero-fit-in-the-modern-nba-and-2022-draft/

[76ciology]

I still don't get the beef Collins has with playing with Young. Yeah, Trae has a lot of FGA, but most lead Gs do in the modern NBA. You're not going to find a better passer in the league than Trae, though.

You dont get paid big money as a dunk and 3 guy.

Everyone goes thru this phase. Individual awards first. Then winning.

Why? Because if a player goes for winning first? He won’t max out his earning potential.

[76ciology]

You guys think Jabari or Chet can be better offensive player (with scoring as highest metric of importance) than Banchero?

I dont.

On a slightly related note, Givony was asked who among the top guys he thinks can be be an allstar? He said there are only two guys. Chet and Paolo.

You all know i have Chet at the top of my mock. Im just curious on why Magic selected Paolo. And im starting to see their POV. It reminds me of my draft principle i love.. Offense is king.

I do think people are underrating Chet’s ability to create on offense. But.. can you really run an offense around Chet (or Jabari?)?

[sixers4real]

From GB:

The belief among both league and player circles is that Irving is gone and the Seven-Eleven Era is over before it ever began. Irving only appeared in 103 regular-season games in Brooklyn, a three-year run ravaged in Year 1 by a nagging shoulder injury; in Year 2 due to absences for personal reasons; and in Year 3 due to Irving’s unwillingness to get vaccinated against COVID-19 in a city that didn’t create a professional athlete exemption in its vaccine mandate until weeks before the NBA playoffs began.

The Nets, as the Daily News reported in late May, have been unwilling to give Irving a long-term contract extension with significant financial guarantees. They do not believe Irving is committed to doing what it takes to be on the floor every game for his teammates.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/...0220627-cpm6fimesfez3a6sow2rkgbjdu-story.html

I don’t believe Kyrie will stay in Brooklyn as I don’t think Durant will be there post 2023 playoffs. Saying that, Morey will most likely keep Harris to try to trade him and Maxey for Durant sometime in future.

[Negrodamus]

Even though it will help the Lakers chances, I really would like to see Durant have to play with Westbrook for a season. That would delight me so much.

[Negrodamus]

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Oh man, I'm going to hate the Lakers and Kyrie if he does this ****.

[sixers4real]

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Oh man, I'm going to hate the Lakers and Kyrie if he does this ****.

This would be such a Kyrie thing to do. I voted on GB that it’s exactly what he’s going to do

[sixers4real]

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