Shams: Kyrie Irving opting in

canz55 · Post #321 » by **canz55** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:42 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Looking like Kyrie is gone.

But which team exactly is going to offer him the full max?

I don't see the Nets accepting any kind of trade from the Lakers unless its for AD. Better to let Kyrie walk than take back Westbrook.

Would Miami really do it?

Riley would tire of Kyrie's antics after the first week.

The Knicks?

Possible. But then they can't go after Brunson who makes more sense.

Dallas?

Luka is a generational talent. Its not worth going through the Kyrie experiment.

My hope is that Kyrie gets laughed off the market and has to settle with the Nets. But maybe someone will offer him the max. Who knows.

I legit feel sorry for you guys. The people of Brooklyn don't deserve this.

jokeboy86 · Post #322 » by **jokeboy86** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:46 pm

It wouldn't really surprise me if the Knicks take a shot at him. As good as Brunson is and as less of a headache as he would ever be compared to Irving he's still not as talented as Kyrie is. And as we know about Dolan and the Knicks do love stars and I still don't think the Knicks have the patience to truly wait on their young core to develop. And as far as the media scrutiny Kyrie would get playing on the Knicks that's a non-issue to me because he's got the perfect owner who hates the media as much as he does. Dolan would encourage Kyrie to spite the media even more than he does now lol

zshawn10 · Post #323 » by **zshawn10** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:58 pm

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anotherhomer · Post #324 » by **anotherhomer** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:59 pm

Knicks went thru steph Murray guy I think

HabsAndDubs · Post #325 » by **HabsAndDubs** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:02 pm

This situation, contrasted with the types of teams who have actually experienced success over the last couple years (golden state, Miami, Milwaukee, Phoenix) just underscores just how useless and tedious this whole “star going where” discourse is. Teams are built organically and add maybe one star from the FA/trade market to become competitors, but we’re still stuck on this whole treating stars like Pokémon cards thing that is going to have zero impact on the league, zero impact on the sport and will bear zero rings for either of the teams involved.

Like okay, Kyrie goes to LA, no one in their right mind thinks the lakers would become a contender with him, and the Clippers are a good team because they’re effectively a playoff calibre team when their two superstars aren’t playing, so trading a boatload of their supporting cast members to add a third star makes them no different than any other overbought superstar teams that never gets anywhere. And on the nets side, who cares? Ben Simmons isn’t winning anything as a main contributor, and the nets have pretty much KD, Bruce Brown and literally nothing else. They’ll get rid of Kyrie, be mediocre, and eventually KD will go to some other team and repeat the process.

No amount of Kyrie Irving or Bradley Beal or Damian Lillard or whatever hired gun Shams and Woj is advertising is gonna prevent your team from getting washed by golden state or Milwaukee in the second round anyways.

NBA teams are billion dollar businesses, they’re not in danger of losing fans if they suck for a bit, I think teams need to stop trying to speed up their ascension- draft some good guys, tweak your team with good vets, and then go out and get a superstar if you don’t already have one. Every single team who is salivating to acquire Kyrie will finish below a healthy Pelicans team this season, to compare the two different team building methods we’re seeing.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #326 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:05 pm

Kyrie is trying to force his way to the Lakers to reunite with LeBron sounds like. The ONLY way it works is if he signs for next to nothing lol.

EricAnderson · Post #327 » by **EricAnderson** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:08 pm

Lebron is the only player who hides a lot of Kyries warts on the floor. It makes sense.

I know everyone’s blaming Kyrie for the Nets failures which he deserves but Harden being washed also played a huge role in why it didn’t work

nzahir · Post #328 » by **nzahir** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:21 pm

John Murdoch wrote:Love that Indy/BKN/LAL 3 way

Whats the framework of the deal?

Hello Brooklyn · Post #329 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:24 pm

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Looks like nobody event wants Kyrie outside of the Lakers. Forget on a max deal. And with 2 days left that won't change.

Would the Lakers even offer Kyrie a max deal?

Kyrie is looking like hes mishandling this. Overestimated his value.

zshawn10 · Post #330 » by **zshawn10** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:24 pm

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mtcan · Post #331 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:26 pm

zshawn10 wrote:

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Do it Kyrie. DO IT. Opt out.

Bologna Smasher · Post #332 » by **Bologna Smasher** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:27 pm

Lakers seem like the logical destination for him, but I don't see any trade working out unless it involves multiple teams. The Lakers would also have to find some team that actually values Westbrook (or his expiring), which also isn't going to be easy.

As someone posted above, the Pacers make some sense with Brogdon going to Brooklyn and Westbrook to Indiana (who will buy him out), but the value still isn't right for the Nets or Pacers... which brings in another team or two. Can see it becoming a pretty big trade.

Jadoogar · Post #333 » by **Jadoogar** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:28 pm

Has any "superteam" imploded faster than this?

mtcan · Post #334 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:29 pm

Bologna Smasher wrote:Lakers seem like the logical destination for him, but I don't see any trade working out unless it involves multiple teams. The Lakers would also have to find some team that actually values Westbrook (or his expiring), which also isn't going to be easy.

As someone posted above, the Pacers make some sense with Brogdon going to Brooklyn and Westbrook to Indiana (who will buy him out), but the value still isn't right for the Nets or Pacers... which brings in another team or two. Can see it becoming a pretty big trade.

I want to see the Westbrook/Kyrie backcourt. There is huge potential for the Lakers to self-implode.

whysoserious · Post #335 » by **whysoserious** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:29 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:

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Looks like nobody event wants Kyrie outside of the Lakers. Forget on a max deal. And with 2 days left that won't change.

Would the Lakers even offer Kyrie a max deal?

Kyrie is looking like hes mishandling this. Overestimated his value.

Who could have ever seen that coming?

Honestly, Kyrie the biggest B**** in the NBA. Tried being woke and a social justice warrior, tried to leave Lebron and make sure he was the star on a winner. Proceeded to be injured and barely play for Boston and now Brooklyn and he's about to bail again on franchise, tuck his tail between his legs and try and return to his daddy. All this after making a big deal about how him and KD gonna run things, about how when the year was over he'd sit down with ownership and management to decide where the Nets go and what moves to make. This guy is delusional.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #336 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:31 pm

If Kyries takes the MLE with the Lakers and flames out, he may never see a max contract again.

The situation is dire.

Is he really going to give that up?

mtcan · Post #337 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:34 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Kyries takes the MLE with the Lakers and flames out, he may never see a max contract again.

The situation is dire.

Is he really going to give that up?

It isn't even a full MLE. It is roughly 6 million.

Honestly...Kyrie is approaching Demarcus Cousins level of being a toxic asset...if not already.

This is a referendum on how much of an **** you can be as a person but be wanted just because you are really good at scoring. How much are teams willing to ignore and what is the appetite for Kyrie level of distraction.

JujitsuFlip · Post #338 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:34 pm

I know Woj said no team outside the Lakers are interested but the Nets did grant Kyrie and his camp permission to seek trades.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-kyrie-irving-sign-and-trade-permission-20220627-cpm6fimesfez3a6sow2rkgbjdu-story.html

"Irving’s camp has requested and received permission from the Nets to speak with other teams about sign-and-trade packages, according to multiple sources familiar with the situation".

Laimbeer · Post #339 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:36 pm

The Nets are foolish to not give Kyrie what it takes. Sure, there's risk, but think of the alternative. Kyrie leaves, KD forces his way out, and the Nets don't own their own picks. Kyrie is a different guy. I get it. But this is the path the Nets dove into. They can have high risk/reward or near certainty of misery. And let's not forget Kyrie made them relevant.

Red8911 · Post #340 » by **Red8911** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:37 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Kyries takes the MLE with the Lakers and flames out, he may never see a max contract again.

The situation is dire.

Is he really going to give that up?

Lakers can always give him money under the table and let Kyrie save on taxes as well.