Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice

[MettaWorldPanda]

The Heat value maximizing their assets.

How could you possibly know that "there is no player we could get that we could trade straight up"? Add salary filler a la Duncan and the range of salaries we can match is nicely varied.

Duncan and Herro equal about 23 million in salary. Here goes the NBA salary chart on who could be possible targets. List doesn't look great in terms of the value. Herro making only 5.9 this year with his production is crazy good value. Most players doing what he's doing are making 20 mil plus.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/

Forget a 4. Go get me Brogdon lol

Also with their 23 mil in salary we can receive up to 28mil but that doesn't really change the options much.

You see what we are saying though right? John Collins is in that money range but going to be a tough sell for the Hawks with that package considering they are on the cusp of a Murray trade.

[Spacely]

Is it a valuing Herro thing or is it to not outbid yourself when your only trade “competition” is the lakers?

So if the nets said no to just lowry and a pick do we just give up?

Lowry + Pick
then
Lowry + Picks
then
Lowry + Yurt + Pick
then
Lowry + Yurt + Picks
then
Lowry + Dipo
then
Lowry + Dipo + Pick

If no deal from there then lose interest, see what other teams are offering and see if they get desperate.

Only if you know all other options for upgrade are unavailable do you then consider adding Herro imo.

Well dipo isn’t signed so that’s not an option and would probably have to throw in Strus or Yurt like you said

[stepback_ftw]

Allstar power forwards are so not crucial anymore but a decent one is important to have. It's more important to land a 1b star than a stud PF for sure.

I'm sure that's the Heat priority.

[greg4012]

The potential uncertainty associated with the Durant pursuit is almost as jarring as the potential volatility in committing to a multiple years of big salary with crazy Kyrie. NBA is producing some drama for us.

How much leverage will Durant have to choose a destination given he's under contract for 4 years?
If Durant has minimal leverage, how many teams will enter the bidding war?
How aggressive will teams go with trade packages?
How long will this all take to play out?
Will this delay free agency dominos from falling?

This is about to get juicy. The more I think about it, the more I start to think that the Heat are actually focused on Kyrie and want to keep it as a quiet as possible to try to get him without giving up Herro.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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His contract works for Duncan straight up but they will want a pick. They are already desperately trying to trade Kennard.

[stepback_ftw]

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His contract works for Duncan straight up but they will want a pick. They are already desperately trying to trade Kennard.

Yea id do Morris for Duncan. Thats a good deal for Heat

[Spacely]

At this point y’all are gonna have to pick your poison, everything will have a positive and negative reaction to the team’s success.

Get Kyrie we get the scorer that we need and we also give up minimal to get him. Yes he’s a head case but is it worth the gamble?

Get KD we lose our primary bench scorer and one of the best defenders in the league and are stuck with undrafted players w shell of a self Lowry, jimmy and KD which is obviously a major threat. But is it enough for a championship? We seen how Kyrie and KD operate; can jimmy and KD work better?

[BenoUdrihFTL]

We'd have so much more flexibility right now if Duncan Robinson didn't turn into complete dog*** the second he got paid. Not to mention he very realistically could've cost us a title when we were desperate for 3pt shooting all playoffs long. Phuck that guy forever

[3ammy3uck3ts]

At this point y’all are gonna have to pick your poison, everything will have a positive and negative reaction to the team’s success.

Get Kyrie we get the scorer that we need and we also give up minimal to get him. Yes he’s a head case but is it worth the gamble?

Get KD we lose our primary bench scorer and one of the best defenders in the league and are stuck with undrafted players w shell of a self Lowry, jimmy and KD which is obviously a major threat. But is it enough for a championship? We seen how Kyrie and KD operate; can jimmy and KD work better?

Get Kyrie, the cost doesn’t outweigh the potential reward.

[RexBoyWonder]

So you really want Kyrie here?

Probably the most selfish, unreliable, unlikeable diva player in history?

That's the guy you're praying we'll get?

It's depressing to think how empty winning will feel (if he even brings us the wins) after you had to sell your soul and go against everything this team stands for.

[MorbidHEAT]

Cause Oladipo is probably not going to want to go into training camp having to fight for minutes with Herro and Strus. He does make a great fit with team 2 though.

Dipo gonna have to fight for minutes no matter what.

I would hate to watch Oladipo lock Herro up and then Oladipo just go right by Herro on the other side of the court. J.Brown had issues with Oladipo on him, just imagine what Herro would look like.

With the defense Oldipo had during that run, especially against the Celtics stripping Brown like a million times, it would shock me if the Heat don't get him back. Unless he is offered a ridiculous contract elsewhere, I still think he comes back.

[stepback_ftw]

So you really want Kyrie here?

Probably the most selfish, unreliable, unlikeable diva player in history?

That's the guy you're praying we'll get?

It's depressing to think how empty winning will feel (if he even brings us the wins) after you had to sell your soul and go against everything this team stands for.

You take risks to strive for greatness. Even if it failed you still have Bam and Herro right?

[Spacely]

At this point y’all are gonna have to pick your poison, everything will have a positive and negative reaction to the team’s success.

Get Kyrie we get the scorer that we need and we also give up minimal to get him. Yes he’s a head case but is it worth the gamble?

Get KD we lose our primary bench scorer and one of the best defenders in the league and are stuck with undrafted players w shell of a self Lowry, jimmy and KD which is obviously a major threat. But is it enough for a championship? We seen how Kyrie and KD operate; can jimmy and KD work better?

Get Kyrie, the cost doesn’t outweigh the potential reward.

We also saw how KD FOLDED against the Celtics don’t forget that, ignoring the talents he has and how this team would look if we sacrificed all of that for him.

[Flash4thewin]

So you really want Kyrie here?

Probably the most selfish, unreliable, unlikeable diva player in history?

That's the guy you're praying we'll get?

It's depressing to think how empty winning will feel (if he even brings us the wins) after you had to sell your soul and go against everything this team stands for.

Its like you have never met Pat Riley lol, Dude doesn't care who we bring in as long as it gives us a better shot a winning.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

At this point y’all are gonna have to pick your poison, everything will have a positive and negative reaction to the team’s success.

Get Kyrie we get the scorer that we need and we also give up minimal to get him. Yes he’s a head case but is it worth the gamble?

Get KD we lose our primary bench scorer and one of the best defenders in the league and are stuck with undrafted players w shell of a self Lowry, jimmy and KD which is obviously a major threat. But is it enough for a championship? We seen how Kyrie and KD operate; can jimmy and KD work better?

Get Kyrie, the cost doesn’t outweigh the potential reward.

We also saw how KD FOLDED against the Celtics don’t forget that, ignoring the talents he has and how this team would look if we sacrificed all of that for him.

Yep, Kyrie outplayed him

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So you really want Kyrie here?

Probably the most selfish, unreliable, unlikeable diva player in history?

That's the guy you're praying we'll get?

It's depressing to think how empty winning will feel (if he even brings us the wins) after you had to sell your soul and go against everything this team stands for.

This is a little extreme

[Spacely]

Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant two superstar players couldn’t even get one win versus the Celtics. While we were in a game 7 hobbled to death with injuries and were one three pointer away from the finals. Kyrie Irving is the easy choice here if we gotta sacrifice the whole team for KD.

[twix2500]

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We have IceCold. We have Ocho. We have faith.

"We" lmao Ocho is such am attention whore.

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[Jfh20]

So you really want Kyrie here?

Probably the most selfish, unreliable, unlikeable diva player in history?

That's the guy you're praying we'll get?

It's depressing to think how empty winning will feel (if he even brings us the wins) after you had to sell your soul and go against everything this team stands for.

il take kyrie. seriously im all about heat culture and buyin into the heat way... but at the end of the day talent wins ships... and butler needs help. we cant leave this guy out there by himself... and i would not say hes the most unlikeable, that title belongs to lebron for me.

[DayofMourning]

I'm ready to trade anyone on the team right now. Just give me some juicy news.