Lakers Trade IDEAS

[Eric Bieniemy]

I also think this is the most realistic deal, maybe Plumlee going to us or the Nets as well.

And I don’t think Mills is opting out. He’d be crazy to opt out. If he does that, he’s only getting a vet minimum somewhere.

Last season was so dysfunctional that I have no idea if Patty will want any part of the Nets outside of being here for Ben Simmons, who he is close to.

I like Mills but he's redundant since we have Seth Curry so I'd have no problem dealing him.

Yeah, I certainly don't think he'll be on the Nets. I imagine he'll opt-in to get his money and be traded either in this deal or a deal later in free agency.

I think the deal to make between the 3 teams is:

To Lakers: Irving, Mills, Plumlee
To Nets: Rozier, Hayward, future Lakers 2nd
To Hornets: Westbrook, Gabriel, 2027 Lakers 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Rozier/Hayward/KD/Simmons/Harris is a damn good closing line-up.

Lots of questions here:
Is this lineup the reason Charlotte makes this trade?:

PG - Ball
SG - Bouknight
C - Washington
PF - Bridges
SF - Oubre

And why would they throw in an expiring Plumlee when they desperately need warm bodies at center?

It seems like we're expecting Charlotte to be stupid ... or just tank for 2023. Last I checked, Rozier is still a 20 point scorer making 20 mill. Is that worthy of a salary dump to unleash Bouknight? Why wouldn't they just include Plumlee and Oubre with Hayward to get the deal done?

[scoobs07]

I also think this is the most realistic deal, maybe Plumlee going to us or the Nets as well.

And I don’t think Mills is opting out. He’d be crazy to opt out. If he does that, he’s only getting a vet minimum somewhere.

Last season was so dysfunctional that I have no idea if Patty will want any part of the Nets outside of being here for Ben Simmons, who he is close to.

I like Mills but he's redundant since we have Seth Curry so I'd have no problem dealing him.

Yeah, I certainly don't think he'll be on the Nets. I imagine he'll opt-in to get his money and be traded either in this deal or a deal later in free agency.

I think the deal to make between the 3 teams is:

To Lakers: Irving, Mills, Plumlee
To Nets: Rozier, Hayward, future Lakers 2nd
To Hornets: Westbrook, Gabriel, 2027 Lakers 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Rozier/Hayward/KD/Simmons/Harris is a damn good closing line-up.

That trade is good too. If we get Irving in any variations of these trades, what do we do next? I think we have a dilemma on our hands with AD's reluctance to play center. If AD stays at power forward, then with Ham's 4 out/1 in offense, we need to either play Lebron at center or either sign or trade for a stretch 5. I'm not sure who this player is yet, but hopefully Lakers have a plan for this. I don't like the idea of AD "starting" at PF along side another non shooting and then sliding over to the 5 for most of his minutes. It just seems artificial and in a sense throwing shade at AD. I think if we decide to let AD be the PF, then we need to get a big that complements him and leave it at that. I mean if AD is going to play the majority of his minutes at the 5, then what is the point of starting him at PF for just a few minutes? Another thing that the Lakers could do is commit to having Lebron play center and then utilize their resources to acquire a defensive three and D wing via trade or free agency. Here is a list of starting caliber players at the top of my head that we could possibly get:

Stretch 5s

Bamba (We might have a chance. If Knicks sign Brunson with their space, they end up with only the room exception).
Lopez (Darvin Ham connection, but would Milwaukee trade him?)
Olynek (maybe?)
Bryant (maybe we get him with the MLE. Does he stretch the floor well enough to utilize the MLE on him though? Maybe).
Turner (unlikely Pacers trade him to us)
Love (too expensive to trade for, could he get bought out? Unlikely)
Ibaka (Darvin Ham connection, so maybe)
Dieng (lower tier candidate)
Cousins (lower tier candidate)
Vucevic (would Chi trade him for two local legends: THT and Nunn?).
Kleber (Unlikely Dallas trades with us).
Jalen Smith (a bit skinny, but has upside and could shoot)
Bertans (too skinny for center?)
Markaanan (see Bertans)
Bol (now we are reaching a little here).

Three and D wings (preferably with size) much smaller list. These are hard to find right now.

Barnes (ideal)
KCP (kind of small)
Kuzma (nahh)
Oubre (lacking in the 3 a bit)
Bogdanovic (no D)
Bullock (maybe?)
Porter (ideal)
Batum (sufficient)
Warren (question marks)
House (decent, but probably not starting caliber).
Jones (no 3)
Hood (would be disappointed)

[scoobs07]

Add Trent and Annunoby to this list.

[scoobs07]

Another thing, it would be a good idea for the Lakers to decide what to do at center if they plan on making a free agent pitch to a wing like Porter. They would pretty much need to offer him a starting role, which is not happening with Lebron at the 3.

[scoobs07]

Three way trade idea:

Lakers get: Trent, Hayward and Oubre

Raptors get: THT, Nunn, 2023 Hornets 1st, 2027 Lakers 1st, 2029 Lakers 1st

Hornets get: Westbrook and Christie

Hornets are rumored to be wiling to attach a 1st to dump Hayward. Toronto has expressed interest in THT in the past. Lakers need shooting.

PF-Davis
SF-James
C-Free agent stretch 5 (Bamba?)
PG-Reeves
SG-Trent

[TylersLakers]

Last season was so dysfunctional that I have no idea if Patty will want any part of the Nets outside of being here for Ben Simmons, who he is close to.

I like Mills but he's redundant since we have Seth Curry so I'd have no problem dealing him.

Yeah, I certainly don't think he'll be on the Nets. I imagine he'll opt-in to get his money and be traded either in this deal or a deal later in free agency.

I think the deal to make between the 3 teams is:

To Lakers: Irving, Mills, Plumlee
To Nets: Rozier, Hayward, future Lakers 2nd
To Hornets: Westbrook, Gabriel, 2027 Lakers 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Rozier/Hayward/KD/Simmons/Harris is a damn good closing line-up.

That trade is good too. If we get Irving in any variations of these trades, what do we do next? I think we have a dilemma on our hands with AD's reluctance to play center. If AD stays at power forward, then with Ham's 4 out/1 in offense, we need to either play Lebron at center or either sign or trade for a stretch 5. I'm not sure who this player is yet, but hopefully Lakers have a plan for this. I don't like the idea of AD "starting" at PF along side another non shooting and then sliding over to the 5 for most of his minutes. It just seems artificial and in a sense throwing shade at AD. I think if we decide to let AD be the PF, then we need to get a big that complements him and leave it at that. I mean if AD is going to play the majority of his minutes at the 5, then what is the point of starting him at PF for just a few minutes? Another thing that the Lakers could do is commit to having Lebron play center and then utilize their resources to acquire a defensive three and D wing via trade or free agency. Here is a list of starting caliber players at the top of my head that we could possibly get:

Stretch 5s

Bamba (We might have a chance. If Knicks sign Brunson with their space, they end up with only the room exception).
Lopez (Darvin Ham connection, but would Milwaukee trade him?)
Olynek (maybe?)
Bryant (maybe we get him with the MLE. Does he stretch the floor well enough to utilize the MLE on him though? Maybe).
Turner (unlikely Pacers trade him to us)
Love (too expensive to trade for, could he get bought out? Unlikely)
Ibaka (Darvin Ham connection, so maybe)
Dieng (lower tier candidate)
Cousins (lower tier candidate)
Vucevic (would Chi trade him for two local legends: THT and Nunn?).
Kleber (Unlikely Dallas trades with us).
Jalen Smith (a bit skinny, but has upside and could shoot)
Bertans (too skinny for center?)
Markaanan (see Bertans)
Bol (now we are reaching a little here).

Three and D wings (preferably with size) much smaller list. These are hard to find right now.

Barnes (ideal)
KCP (kind of small)
Kuzma (nahh)
Oubre (lacking in the 3 a bit)
Bogdanovic (no D)
Bullock (maybe?)
Porter (ideal)
Batum (sufficient)
Warren (question marks)
House (decent, but probably not starting caliber).
Jones (no 3)
Hood (would be disappointed)

If we acquire Irving (let's use the deal I suggested as a reference point), you have to surround AD/LeBron/Irving with the following:

1) Defensive Ability
2) Size and athleticism
3) Shooting

So the roster would be:

Irving/Nunn/Mills
Reaves/THT/Christie/
LeBron/Stanley/
AD/
Plumlee/

2-way: Pippen Jr, Swider

The following moves I'd make would be:

- Trade Mills, future 2nd round pick for Cedi Osman
- Trade THT to Sacramento for Justin Holiday, Moe Harkless
- Sign Damian Jones: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Taurean Prince: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Carmelo, Delon Wright to vet minimums

Irving/Nunn/Wright
Reaves/Holiday/Christie
Prince/Cedi Osman/Stanley
LeBron/Harkless/Melo
AD/Plumlee/Jones

You could go also go big with Irving/Reaves/LeBron/AD/Plumlee - but with Irving, LeBron, AD - You should want to maximize floor spacing.

[scoobs07]

Yeah, I certainly don't think he'll be on the Nets. I imagine he'll opt-in to get his money and be traded either in this deal or a deal later in free agency.

I think the deal to make between the 3 teams is:

To Lakers: Irving, Mills, Plumlee
To Nets: Rozier, Hayward, future Lakers 2nd
To Hornets: Westbrook, Gabriel, 2027 Lakers 1st (Top 4 Protected)

Rozier/Hayward/KD/Simmons/Harris is a damn good closing line-up.

That trade is good too. If we get Irving in any variations of these trades, what do we do next? I think we have a dilemma on our hands with AD's reluctance to play center. If AD stays at power forward, then with Ham's 4 out/1 in offense, we need to either play Lebron at center or either sign or trade for a stretch 5. I'm not sure who this player is yet, but hopefully Lakers have a plan for this. I don't like the idea of AD "starting" at PF along side another non shooting and then sliding over to the 5 for most of his minutes. It just seems artificial and in a sense throwing shade at AD. I think if we decide to let AD be the PF, then we need to get a big that complements him and leave it at that. I mean if AD is going to play the majority of his minutes at the 5, then what is the point of starting him at PF for just a few minutes? Another thing that the Lakers could do is commit to having Lebron play center and then utilize their resources to acquire a defensive three and D wing via trade or free agency. Here is a list of starting caliber players at the top of my head that we could possibly get:

Stretch 5s

Bamba (We might have a chance. If Knicks sign Brunson with their space, they end up with only the room exception).
Lopez (Darvin Ham connection, but would Milwaukee trade him?)
Olynek (maybe?)
Bryant (maybe we get him with the MLE. Does he stretch the floor well enough to utilize the MLE on him though? Maybe).
Turner (unlikely Pacers trade him to us)
Love (too expensive to trade for, could he get bought out? Unlikely)
Ibaka (Darvin Ham connection, so maybe)
Dieng (lower tier candidate)
Cousins (lower tier candidate)
Vucevic (would Chi trade him for two local legends: THT and Nunn?).
Kleber (Unlikely Dallas trades with us).
Jalen Smith (a bit skinny, but has upside and could shoot)
Bertans (too skinny for center?)
Markaanan (see Bertans)
Bol (now we are reaching a little here).

Three and D wings (preferably with size) much smaller list. These are hard to find right now.

Barnes (ideal)
KCP (kind of small)
Kuzma (nahh)
Oubre (lacking in the 3 a bit)
Bogdanovic (no D)
Bullock (maybe?)
Porter (ideal)
Batum (sufficient)
Warren (question marks)
House (decent, but probably not starting caliber).
Jones (no 3)
Hood (would be disappointed)

If we acquire Irving (let's use the deal I suggested as a reference point), you have to surround AD/LeBron/Irving with the following:

1) Defensive Ability
2) Size and athleticism
3) Shooting

So the roster would be:

Irving/Nunn/Mills
Reaves/THT/Christie/
LeBron/Stanley/
AD/
Plumlee/

2-way: Pippen Jr, Swider

The following moves I'd make would be:

- Trade Mills, future 2nd round pick for Cedi Osman
- Trade THT to Sacramento for Justin Holiday, Moe Harkless
- Sign Damian Jones: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Taurean Prince: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Carmelo, Delon Wright to vet minimums

Irving/Nunn/Wright
Reaves/Holiday/Christie
Prince/Cedi Osman/Stanley
LeBron/Harkless/Melo
AD/Plumlee/Jones

You could go also go big with Irving/Reaves/LeBron/AD/Plumlee - but with Irving, LeBron, AD - You should want to maximize floor spacing.

Fair enough. So, you are saying put AD at center? I don't think Plumlee and/or Jones would be good for the 4 out, 1 in offense, unless one of them is the player that is on the inside (in the second unit).

[TylersLakers]

That trade is good too. If we get Irving in any variations of these trades, what do we do next? I think we have a dilemma on our hands with AD's reluctance to play center. If AD stays at power forward, then with Ham's 4 out/1 in offense, we need to either play Lebron at center or either sign or trade for a stretch 5. I'm not sure who this player is yet, but hopefully Lakers have a plan for this. I don't like the idea of AD "starting" at PF along side another non shooting and then sliding over to the 5 for most of his minutes. It just seems artificial and in a sense throwing shade at AD. I think if we decide to let AD be the PF, then we need to get a big that complements him and leave it at that. I mean if AD is going to play the majority of his minutes at the 5, then what is the point of starting him at PF for just a few minutes? Another thing that the Lakers could do is commit to having Lebron play center and then utilize their resources to acquire a defensive three and D wing via trade or free agency. Here is a list of starting caliber players at the top of my head that we could possibly get:

Stretch 5s

Bamba (We might have a chance. If Knicks sign Brunson with their space, they end up with only the room exception).
Lopez (Darvin Ham connection, but would Milwaukee trade him?)
Olynek (maybe?)
Bryant (maybe we get him with the MLE. Does he stretch the floor well enough to utilize the MLE on him though? Maybe).
Turner (unlikely Pacers trade him to us)
Love (too expensive to trade for, could he get bought out? Unlikely)
Ibaka (Darvin Ham connection, so maybe)
Dieng (lower tier candidate)
Cousins (lower tier candidate)
Vucevic (would Chi trade him for two local legends: THT and Nunn?).
Kleber (Unlikely Dallas trades with us).
Jalen Smith (a bit skinny, but has upside and could shoot)
Bertans (too skinny for center?)
Markaanan (see Bertans)
Bol (now we are reaching a little here).

Three and D wings (preferably with size) much smaller list. These are hard to find right now.

Barnes (ideal)
KCP (kind of small)
Kuzma (nahh)
Oubre (lacking in the 3 a bit)
Bogdanovic (no D)
Bullock (maybe?)
Porter (ideal)
Batum (sufficient)
Warren (question marks)
House (decent, but probably not starting caliber).
Jones (no 3)
Hood (would be disappointed)

If we acquire Irving (let's use the deal I suggested as a reference point), you have to surround AD/LeBron/Irving with the following:

1) Defensive Ability
2) Size and athleticism
3) Shooting

So the roster would be:

Irving/Nunn/Mills
Reaves/THT/Christie/
LeBron/Stanley/
AD/
Plumlee/

2-way: Pippen Jr, Swider

The following moves I'd make would be:

- Trade Mills, future 2nd round pick for Cedi Osman
- Trade THT to Sacramento for Justin Holiday, Moe Harkless
- Sign Damian Jones: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Taurean Prince: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Carmelo, Delon Wright to vet minimums

Irving/Nunn/Wright
Reaves/Holiday/Christie
Prince/Cedi Osman/Stanley
LeBron/Harkless/Melo
AD/Plumlee/Jones

You could go also go big with Irving/Reaves/LeBron/AD/Plumlee - but with Irving, LeBron, AD - You should want to maximize floor spacing.

Fair enough. So, you are saying put AD at center? I don't think Plumlee and/or Jones would be good for the 4 out, 1 in offense, unless one of them is the player that is on the inside (in the second unit).

I think AD's minutes are mostly going to be at the 5 next season just like last season. He played 76% of his minutes at C last year. I think he's going to have to do the same, especially when it counts in the playoffs and down the stretch of games in closing line-ups. They still should start big with a traditional 5 (Plumlee or Jones) in certain matchups, however.

[scoobs07]

If we acquire Irving (let's use the deal I suggested as a reference point), you have to surround AD/LeBron/Irving with the following:

1) Defensive Ability
2) Size and athleticism
3) Shooting

So the roster would be:

Irving/Nunn/Mills
Reaves/THT/Christie/
LeBron/Stanley/
AD/
Plumlee/

2-way: Pippen Jr, Swider

The following moves I'd make would be:

- Trade Mills, future 2nd round pick for Cedi Osman
- Trade THT to Sacramento for Justin Holiday, Moe Harkless
- Sign Damian Jones: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Taurean Prince: 1 year, $3.0M
- Sign Carmelo, Delon Wright to vet minimums

Irving/Nunn/Wright
Reaves/Holiday/Christie
Prince/Cedi Osman/Stanley
LeBron/Harkless/Melo
AD/Plumlee/Jones

You could go also go big with Irving/Reaves/LeBron/AD/Plumlee - but with Irving, LeBron, AD - You should want to maximize floor spacing.

Fair enough. So, you are saying put AD at center? I don't think Plumlee and/or Jones would be good for the 4 out, 1 in offense, unless one of them is the player that is on the inside (in the second unit).

I think AD's minutes are mostly going to be at the 5 next season just like last season. He played 76% of his minutes at C last year. I think he's going to have to do the same, especially when it counts in the playoffs and down the stretch of games in closing line-ups. They still should start big with a traditional 5 (Plumlee or Jones) in certain matchups, however.

They should start start him at center then if they are going to go that route. It is kind of stupid to have a "fake starting center" in my opinion. I mean, what is the difference? Is he scared of defending starting centers, but doesn't mind defending the back ups? I don't get it.

[scoobs07]

Three team trade:

Lakers get: KD and Irving

Nets get: AD, Rozier and Hayward

Hornets get: Westbrook, 2027 Lakers 1st, 2029 Lakers 1st

[AGAVE]

Three way trade idea:

Lakers get: Trent, Hayward and Oubre

Raptors get: THT, Nunn, 2023 Hornets 1st, 2027 Lakers 1st, 2029 Lakers 1st

Hornets get: “Westbrook and Christie” -

Don’t think Lakers would include Christie in anything.
From several videos I watched, his potential keeps him here; not to forget his rookie friendly contract and control.
Max makes THT and maybe another player tradeable.

[WarriorsLakers]

Three team trade:

Lakers get: KD and Irving

Nets get: AD, Rozier and Hayward

Hornets get: Westbrook, 2027 Lakers 1st, 2029 Lakers 1st

so the cheap hornets dump a total of 106m salary and get 2 1st rd picks for that? brilliant

[scoobs07]

Three team trade:

Lakers get: KD and Irving

Nets get: AD, Rozier and Hayward

Hornets get: Westbrook, 2027 Lakers 1st, 2029 Lakers 1st

so the cheap hornets dump a total of 106m salary and get 2 1st rd picks for that? brilliant

Well, throw Mitch a bone for helping us out. Maybe we could get by with one first.

[scoobs07]

Three team trade:

Lakers get: KD and Irving

Nets get: AD, Rozier and Hayward

Hornets get: Westbrook, 2027 Lakers 1st, 2029 Lakers 1st

so the cheap hornets dump a total of 106m salary and get 2 1st rd picks for that? brilliant

LOL, the reason I have two picks going there is because Rozier actually has positive value. If it were Hayward/Oubre/Plumlee going there then Charlotte would be the one that would pony up the picks. I think Brooklun would want Rozier though.

[LAL1947]

John Wall is most likely gonna sign with the LA Clippers, which means their TPMLE can't be used on Isaiah Hartenstein. Hope Rob Pelinka has considered him... and signs him up quick if it makes sense, before other teams move on him.

[TylersLakers]

The Lakers can't use their MLE on a big. It 100% needs to be on a wing.

[scoobs07]

John Wall is most likely gonna sign with the LA Clippers, which means their TPMLE can't be used on Isaiah Hartenstein. Hope Rob Pelinka has considered him... and signs him up quick if it makes sense, before other teams move on him.

How is his shooting? Would he be good for the 4 out/1 in offense?

[LAL1947]

The Lakers can't use their MLE on a big. It 100% needs to be on a wing.

Yeah, that likely true. Well, I hope they at least try to sign him on a Vet-Minimum with the promise of bigger, stable role and more dollars in the future if he does well. He's still only 24YO.

John Wall is most likely gonna sign with the LA Clippers, which means their TPMLE can't be used on Isaiah Hartenstein. Hope Rob Pelinka has considered him... and signs him up quick if it makes sense, before other teams move on him.

How is his shooting? Would he be good for the 4 out/1 in offense?

He's not taken many 3-point attempts in the past. He looked a decent player the few times I seen him play for the Clippers last season. He's good in the P&R and has some play-making ability as a Center. His Per 36 Minutes numbers are good too. A better back up option than Drummond or DeAndre Jordan for sure. I think he can be used with AD in the lineup or even without AD, and provides energy.

I've also brought up Jericho Sims before. Really want him too because his defense is excellent... so important to have that defensive option on a team with 38YO Lebron. With him and Hartenstein, we can have the Center position sorted for very cheap.

[LAL1947]

A possibility for SG... Gary Harris S&T for THT?

Some other Vet-Min possibilities for SF... Otto Porter Jr, Josh Jackson.

Josh Jackson was once a lottery talent, so that's interesting. Perhaps, Darvin Ham and Mike Penberthy can help turn him into a proper 3&D forward. He has the size and is still young, only 25YO. Another advantage of signing him is that he'd push Gabriel down to #11-15 in the rotation. Feels like Stanley and Gabriel are too lacking on offense to have both in the #6-10 spots in the rotation.

OPJ may not be available for Vet-Min but it doesn't hurt to ask.

[gambitx777]

Any idea what the back up plan is if y'all can't swing Kyrie?

Intereed wizard fan because I'd love Westbrook back off a buy out.