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[xdrta+]

Also, are there any reports that the Warriors FO actually likes Jessup and considers bringing him over?

According to this report he'll be playing in the summer league but who knows? We should be seeing a summer league roster pretty soon.
https://heavy.com/sports/golden-state-warriors/justinian-jessup-summer/

[TB]

I agree with a lot of the above, though I think it's certain they go with 14 spots. Wouldn't be surprised to see Lee go. Also think they'll move on from Weatherspoon and Jessup will get that two-way spot. If he shows enough he can always be converted to min contract.

Ya I definitely think they want to go with 14 spots, I just don't think they can considering all the players they likely want on their roster.

Also, agreed on Jessup that the 2way spot instead of Spoon makes the most sense, I just don't think he makes it through waivers, thus needing a roster spot. I may have the contract situation incorrect though, but at least last year it had to be a 15 man roster spot or other teams could offer him one.

It's true they couldn't offer him a 2-way last year, but that was because he was under contract to an international team. The CBA specifies that if a team buys out an international contract it has to be for a roster spot, not a 2-way. Now that he's clear of that contract he can sign a 2-way.

Now, if Jessup doesn't want to sign a 2-way, he'd have to sit out a year, since the Warriors have his draft rights until the next draft. (Unless he signs another international contract, then the clock stops. The Warriors would have his draft rights for a year after that new international contract ends.)

oh that is interesting. Thanks for the info. In that case I put him on the 2way for Spoon or Quinones and that frees up that 15th roster spot for another vet (iggy or JTA or maybe just re-sign both of Otto and Beli).

[WarFan]

And for those that think Jessup shouldn't jump ahead of some of these players, my reasoning is more based on principal. We drafted him with a plan in place to have him in Australia and then come over. I think our front office works a lot on loyalty and not screwing over players, and Jessup has done everything we'd hope for him to do in Australia. I think he has a spot locked in. Now, if we do end up saying no to jessup or he's in a trade, I think JTA just gets his spot rather than a different vet min (or Iggy if he wants to return).

First of all, Jessup hasn't really done anything impressive down under to warrant a callup, but let's see him in Summer League first.

As for the bolded part, are you kidding me? They don't owe him anything and certainly not a locked in spot. You say he's done everything but then what the hell have guys like Lee and JTA been doing? Why wouldn't they show loyalty to those guys?

Nobody should be given a spot just for following the plan or showing loyalty. He's gonna have to earn a roster spot with his play in camp.

[TB]

And for those that think Jessup shouldn't jump ahead of some of these players, my reasoning is more based on principal. We drafted him with a plan in place to have him in Australia and then come over. I think our front office works a lot on loyalty and not screwing over players, and Jessup has done everything we'd hope for him to do in Australia. I think he has a spot locked in. Now, if we do end up saying no to jessup or he's in a trade, I think JTA just gets his spot rather than a different vet min (or Iggy if he wants to return).

First of all, Jessup hasn't really done anything impressive down under to warrant a callup, but let's see him in Summer League first.

As for the bolded part, are you kidding me? They don't owe him anything and certainly not a locked in spot. You say he's done everything but then what the hell have guys like Lee and JTA been doing? Why wouldn't they show loyalty to those guys?

Nobody should be given a spot just for following the plan or showing loyalty. He's gonna have to earn a roster spot with his play in camp.

Valid points about other guys already on the squad (mostly JTA since he was the one vet I'd cut for Jessup). Curious what we will do with JTA, he's such a great locker room guy but really doesn't factor into any rotation plans.

[WarFan]

And for those that think Jessup shouldn't jump ahead of some of these players, my reasoning is more based on principal. We drafted him with a plan in place to have him in Australia and then come over. I think our front office works a lot on loyalty and not screwing over players, and Jessup has done everything we'd hope for him to do in Australia. I think he has a spot locked in. Now, if we do end up saying no to jessup or he's in a trade, I think JTA just gets his spot rather than a different vet min (or Iggy if he wants to return).

First of all, Jessup hasn't really done anything impressive down under to warrant a callup, but let's see him in Summer League first.

As for the bolded part, are you kidding me? They don't owe him anything and certainly not a locked in spot. You say he's done everything but then what the hell have guys like Lee and JTA been doing? Why wouldn't they show loyalty to those guys?

Nobody should be given a spot just for following the plan or showing loyalty. He's gonna have to earn a roster spot with his play in camp.

Valid points about other guys already on the squad (mostly JTA since he was the one vet I'd cut for Jessup). Curious what we will do with JTA, he's such a great locker room guy but really doesn't factor into any rotation plans.

He needs to go to another team where he can get rotation minutes. The Kings look like a great fit with Brown and their lack of wings. He got buried last year with Kuminga, Moody, Porter, Iggy, Bjelica coming in and Klay coming back, but he was great in the run to the play-in when he got regular minutes. If he can't find a deal elsewhere I'd definitely take him back.

[SpreeS]

Looks like Payton/Looney will be back

Looney/Wiseman
Green/Kuminga
Wiggs/Moodey
Klay/Payton
Curry/Poole

I think we will get good vet Forward/Wing for vet min. It could be Porter or other player.

[whatisacenter]

Looks like Payton/Looney will be back

Looney/Wiseman
Green/Kuminga
Wiggs/Moodey
Klay/Payton
Curry/Poole

I think we will get good vet Forward/Wing for vet min. It could be Porter or other player.

yeah, I am liking what is being reported about the Warriors likely retaining those two. I know the Warriors have had Tyreke Evans in for scrimmages and wonder if there are looking to add him at a vet minimum. Another wing might be more of a priority than another guard though.

[Commodor]

Looks like Payton/Looney will be back

Looney/Wiseman
Green/Kuminga
Wiggs/Moodey
Klay/Payton
Curry/Poole

I think we will get good vet Forward/Wing for vet min. It could be Porter or other player.

Before we commit to OPJ or bjeli I’d like to see the FO kick the tires on Kyle anderson first. Such a good fit for us but I expect he’ll get a good offer elsewhere.

[TB]

Looks like Payton/Looney will be back

Looney/Wiseman
Green/Kuminga
Wiggs/Moodey
Klay/Payton
Curry/Poole

I think we will get good vet Forward/Wing for vet min. It could be Porter or other player.

Before we commit to OPJ or bjeli I’d like to see the FO kick the tires on Kyle anderson first. Such a good fit for us but I expect he’ll get a good offer elsewhere.

I dunno why, but I think of Otto as like this super vet in his last years like David West or Livingston... while I think of Kyle Anderson as a guy just entering prime... yet they are the same age lol.

They had almost identical seasons statistically and positionally last year, with Otto leaning more catch and shoot and Slo-Mo more playmaking/off the dribble. But I totally agree that we need 1 4/5 FA.. Otto or Kyle Anderson would be perfect.

[Samurai]

If Looney re-signs, it sounds like the Dubs are not planning to add an extra traditional center behind him as they need Wiseman to get as much playing time as possible so the team can make a longer-term decision on him beyond "good potential". And if our two 2-way spots go to Quinones and Weatherspoon, then we are likely to go with no real bigs beyond Looney and Wiseman. I realize we went through a whole season and won a chip with zero minutes from Wiseman, but I would think it would be fairly unrealistic to make it through another season being so undersized. Looney's durability has been amazing but even Superman has his kryptonite; one injury to Looney and we are solely relying on the tissue-paper durability of Wiseman. Don't think it is realistic to expect PBJ to be able to contribute as a 5 this season.

[donkeylips]

if they dont bring back belly, what about bringing back damian jones? or john butler on the second two way? i just want someone to soak up minutes if looney or wiseman are unavailable.

[Scoots1994]

if they dont bring back belly, what about bringing back damian jones? or john butler on the second two way? i just want someone to soak up minutes if looney or wiseman are unavailable.

Damian Jones has been mentioned before. He's still fragile but he's a good guy and is a decent big, doesn't do anything special other than being big and active.

It would be better to get Thad Young. Hartenstein would be interesting. That said I'd be surprised if the Warriors can get either.

[TB]

I think at the very least, one of Otto or Beli will be brought back to be a part of the center rotation. We will not be heading into the season with just Looney / Wiseman / Dray / Kuminga / PBJ as the players that can play center. Preferably its Otto since he can play 4 or 5 so we don't need to count so heavily on Wiseman/Kuminga to be ready for meaningful contributions to a title team.

[BoatsNZones]

They'll ask OPJ if he's OK with the 1 year vet min, but I don't see them paying any extra repeater tax for him. They'll use the taxpayer ML on Looney or GP, and look to get a good price on the other, but it's going to be vet min contracts outside of that. With the cap going up about 12 million, their projected bill should be about the exact same this season as it was last year.

[SpreeChokeJob]

If Looney re-signs, it sounds like the Dubs are not planning to add an extra traditional center behind him as they need Wiseman to get as much playing time as possible so the team can make a longer-term decision on him beyond "good potential". And if our two 2-way spots go to Quinones and Weatherspoon, then we are likely to go with no real bigs beyond Looney and Wiseman. I realize we went through a whole season and won a chip with zero minutes from Wiseman, but I would think it would be fairly unrealistic to make it through another season being so undersized. Looney's durability has been amazing but even Superman has his kryptonite; one injury to Looney and we are solely relying on the tissue-paper durability of Wiseman. Don't think it is realistic to expect PBJ to be able to contribute as a 5 this season.

It’s going to be tough, but they need to see if they can pick McGee or Lopez. They really need a dependable center after Looney. Everyone could see the impact Looney had in the games and if he was injured they would have been abused inside and on the boards.

There’s no way in hell to roll in the postseason with Wiseman. He still hasn’t played a full year in any form past high school. The way management configured the team was expecting him to validate their decision, but they were lucky Looney held up.

[Samurai]

If Looney re-signs, it sounds like the Dubs are not planning to add an extra traditional center behind him as they need Wiseman to get as much playing time as possible so the team can make a longer-term decision on him beyond "good potential". And if our two 2-way spots go to Quinones and Weatherspoon, then we are likely to go with no real bigs beyond Looney and Wiseman. I realize we went through a whole season and won a chip with zero minutes from Wiseman, but I would think it would be fairly unrealistic to make it through another season being so undersized. Looney's durability has been amazing but even Superman has his kryptonite; one injury to Looney and we are solely relying on the tissue-paper durability of Wiseman. Don't think it is realistic to expect PBJ to be able to contribute as a 5 this season.

It’s going to be tough, but they need to see if they can pick McGee or Lopez. They really need a dependable center after Looney. Everyone could see the impact Looney had in the games and if he was injured they would have been abused inside and on the boards.

There’s no way in hell to roll in the postseason with Wiseman. He still hasn’t played a full year in any form past high school. The way management configured the team was expecting him to validate their decision, but they were lucky Looney held up.

Unless the team believes Wiseman will again be unavailable for much of the season, I don't see them going after McGee. His game as a rim roller/vertical threat is too similar to Wiseman (other than being 13 years older). If they believe Wiseman will be largely available, I'd rather see them get someone who offers a different dimension than we have with either Looney or Wiseman. Either a guy with more girth than we currently have (such as Lopez) or a potential stretch big to take the Bjelly role (Hartenstein made 14/30 3's last season).

[GS Warriors 1]

Looks like we're going to lose Otto Porter, his market is seemingly around 6-8M range.

[xdrta+]

Looks like we're going to lose Otto Porter, his market is seemingly around 6-8M range.

Porter made a good decision when he hitched his wagon to the Warriors (supposedly he had better offers.) He bet on a prove-it year and it looks like it will pay off for him. Now the Warriors have to find someone in the same situation and say, "look what it did for Porter."

[GS Warriors 1]

Hartenstein (2/18) and Brunson (4/110) to the Knicks.

PJ Tucker to the 76ers, 3/33.

Malik Monk to the Kings, 2/19

Jokic, Beal, and Booker sign max contract extensions.

[Onus]

Looks like we're going to lose Otto Porter, his market is seemingly around 6-8M range.

Porter made a good decision when he hitched his wagon to the Warriors (supposedly he had better offers.) He bet on a prove-it year and it looks like it will pay off for him. Now the Warriors have to find someone in the same situation and say, "look what it did for Porter."

I thought Porter was going to be more integral than GP at the beginning of the season but GP surpassed him.