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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#841 » by NatP4 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:42 pm

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:Graham has upside as a shooter/scorer even after a down year, and atleast he’s in his prime, not 30 with injury issues like Brogdon. Would be a fine swap for a guy like Kuzma.

Graham is a midget. He wouldn't be able to stay on the floor in a playoff game. He might be useful as an instant offense off the bench type of player, and for that reason I'd consider a Kuzma for Graham swap, but they would have to include incentive.

It's really too bad we couldn't have worked out a Kuzma + #10 for Graham + #8 deal. Adding Daniels and Graham to our backcourt while freeing up more frontcourt minutes for Avdija and Rui would have been so perfect.


He’s really just a placeholder starter type, and a useful player in exchange for Kuzma. He would help our offense a ton with his ability to make 3s and play off ball while we run offense through Beal and Porzingis

The goal would be to develop Davis as a lead guard and possibly Dotson as a nice rotation piece
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#842 » by 80sballboy » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:31 pm

Probably need a FA thread. ESPNInsider has laid out what each team needs.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34156470/ultimate-2022-nba-free-agency-guide-needs-priorities-spending-options-all-30-teams

Washington Wizards

Offseason transactions: Johnny Davis (first round) and Yannick Nzosas (second round)

What to watch: Bradley Beal

Beal is eligible to sign a five-year, $251 million contract this July. That number drops to four years and $186 million if he joins a different team either via free agency or a possible sign-and-trade deal, something the Wizards would have to agree to. Beal will run into a dead end in free agency because there are no teams with $43.2 million in cap space to sign him outright.

The biggest contract in NBA history certainly would come with risk for both Beal and the Wizards.

From Beal's perspective, securing the most money is the goal, but what happens if this roster does not improve in the offseason and the Wizards are a team just competing for the play-in tournament year after year?

The trend in recent years has been for players to sign now and ask out later, something that would likely happen in Washington if the roster does not improve. That is a problem for another day, and at the very worst, Washington has one of the more appealing trade assets in the NBA if Beal does ask to be traded down the road.

The Wizards were once financially straddled by the supermax extension that John Wall signed and would be signing Beal to an even bigger contract than Wall's. That is the price of doing business in the NBA if you want to keep an All-NBA player on your roster.

What else to watch:

Finding stability at point guard.

The group of extensions: Kyle Kuzma, Kristaps Porzingis and Rui Hachimura.

Available exceptions: $10.5 million midlevel, $4.1 million biannual and veterans minimum

Below the luxury tax: $16 million

Note: Includes a new contract for Beal.

Key dates:

June 28: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope's $14 million contract becomes guaranteed.

July 1: Ish Smith's $4.7 million contract becomes guaranteed if he is not waived.

Oct. 17: The deadline to extend Rui Hachimura's contract.

Oct. 31: The last day to exercise the third-year option of Corey Kispert and fourth-year option of Deni Avdija.
Players under contract: 12

Two-way players: 0

Team needs:

Starting point guard

Wing to complement Bradley Beal

Extension eligible: Bradley Beal, Rui Hachimura, Kristaps Porzingis, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Vernon Carey Jr. and Kyle Kuzma (as of Sept. 30)

Free-agent status:

Bradley Beal | Player | Bird

Thomas Bryant | Bird

Raul Neto | Early Bird

Anthony Gill | Restricted | Early Bird

Cassius Winston | Non-Bird

Jordan Schakel | Restricted | Non-Bird

Tomas Satoransky | Non-Bird
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#843 » by closg00 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:58 pm

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#844 » by nate33 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:15 pm

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This should allow the team to trade one of Kuzma or Rui to get a PG.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#845 » by Frichuela » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:38 pm

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closg00 wrote:
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This should allow the team to trade one of Kuzma or Rui to get a PG.


To me is obvious. Almost sure is Kuzma, Rui brings $$$$ in marketing revenue and the team is playing in Japan in preseason. Terd only cares about the bottom line.

As discussed in a previous thread, I'd do Kuzma to SAC for DiVincenzo (sing-and-trade) + 2nd rounders. Donte is exactly what Brad Beal needs as a backcourt partner: strong defensively (great at rebounding and steals) with size (6'4" with a 6'6" wingspan). Donte is typically slotted at SG but he can play PG effectively.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#846 » by nate33 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:52 pm

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This should allow the team to trade one of Kuzma or Rui to get a PG.


To me is obvious. Almost sure is Kuzma, Rui brings $$$$ in marketing revenue and the team is playing in Japan in preseason. Terd only cares about the bottom line.

As discussed in a previous thread, I'd do Kuzma to SAC for DiVincenzo (sing-and-trade) + 2nd rounders. Donte is exactly what Brad Beal needs as a backcourt partner: strong defensively (great at rebounding and steals) with size (6'4" with a 6'6" wingspan). Donte is typically slotted at SG but he can play PG effectively.

Why trade anything for DiVincenzo? I doubt he will cost more than the MLE. Just sign him outright.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#847 » by Frichuela » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:02 pm

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nate33 wrote:This should allow the team to trade one of Kuzma or Rui to get a PG.


To me is obvious. Almost sure is Kuzma, Rui brings $$$$ in marketing revenue and the team is playing in Japan in preseason. Terd only cares about the bottom line.

As discussed in a previous thread, I'd do Kuzma to SAC for DiVincenzo (sing-and-trade) + 2nd rounders. Donte is exactly what Brad Beal needs as a backcourt partner: strong defensively (great at rebounding and steals) with size (6'4" with a 6'6" wingspan). Donte is typically slotted at SG but he can play PG effectively.

Why trade anything for DiVincenzo? I doubt he will cost more than the MLE. Just sign him outright.


That would be also an option but 2 considerations: 1) he is an RFA, which makes offering him an outright contract a trickier and lengthier process, it may be wiser to work together with SAC on it; 2) As you said, trading Kuzma alleviates our glut at the PF position, and gives us some draft capital. We could request IND 2023 (or SAC 2023) and SAC 2024 2nd rounders. This would allow us to re-stock on 2nd rounders.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#848 » by FAH1223 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:17 pm

Lol Brad really ain’t leaving

He was there in the facility when Johnny showed up

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#849 » by 80sballboy » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:20 pm

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#850 » by nate33 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:46 pm

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To me is obvious. Almost sure is Kuzma, Rui brings $$$$ in marketing revenue and the team is playing in Japan in preseason. Terd only cares about the bottom line.

As discussed in a previous thread, I'd do Kuzma to SAC for DiVincenzo (sing-and-trade) + 2nd rounders. Donte is exactly what Brad Beal needs as a backcourt partner: strong defensively (great at rebounding and steals) with size (6'4" with a 6'6" wingspan). Donte is typically slotted at SG but he can play PG effectively.

Why trade anything for DiVincenzo? I doubt he will cost more than the MLE. Just sign him outright.


That would be also an option but 2 considerations: 1) he is an RFA, which makes offering him an outright contract a trickier and lengthier process, it may be wiser to work together with SAC on it; 2) As you said, trading Kuzma alleviates our glut at the PF position, and gives us some draft capital. We could request IND 2023 (or SAC 2023) and SAC 2024 2nd rounders. This would allow us to re-stock on 2nd rounders.

I don't think Sacramento would match since DiVincenzo has already expressed that he does not like the organization. And if Kuzma is worth 2nd rounders in a DiVincenzo trade, he should be worth a 1st rounder in some other trade. I'm just saying, why give up value in the DiVincenzo acquisition when we don't have to?
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#851 » by nate33 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:49 pm

At this point, if Tyus Jones isn't interested in our MLE offer, I think I'd just sign Delon Wright to a 1+1 deal (team option).
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#852 » by bsilver » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:50 pm

Don’t see going after DiVincenzo. He’s always been a SG.
Tyus Jones is good, but don’t like the idea of such a short backcourt.
Not a popular choice here, but would like to see us get Brogden. Why, since there are so many reasons not to? He’s the best PG we could get. We’re totally f’ed soon as we sign Beal to a max, and that seems inevitable. If the next few years means competing for the 6-8 playoff spots, then do it with the best players.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#853 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:55 pm

FAH1223 wrote:Lol Brad really ain’t leaving

He was there in the facility when Johnny showed up

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#854 » by I_Like_Dirt » Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:37 pm

nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:
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This should allow the team to trade one of Kuzma or Rui to get a PG.


I don't think they should be trading Rui or Kuzma unless a legitimately talent young PG is available and those tend not to get traded for Kuzma or Rui. They aren't ideal but there are a decent number of PG options in free agency even if Jones signs elsewhere. You mentioned Wright but there's also Schroder or even Rubio depending on his recovery. Those guys aren't long term solutions but for another run at the play-in, they all work.

Personally, I wouldn't be too worried about it and would just be focused on getting good players regardless of position right now and if the team tanks, I don't see that as bad. But I doubt the Wiz will head that direction. It doesn't seem to be what they do.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#855 » by DCZards » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:13 am

nate33 wrote:At this point, if Tyus Jones isn't interested in our MLE offer, I think I'd just sign Delon Wright to a 1+1 deal (team option).

This is where I am as well. I expect Tyus Jones to be too expensive and my second choice, Brogdan, is costly and oft-injured.

Wright has great size for a PG, is a very good defender and a decent 3pt shooter. Not much of an assist guy though.

I’d also make a play for Rubio. He was having probably his best year when he went down with a knee injury last season. The Cavs are reportedly hoping to resign Rubio.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#856 » by badinage » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:30 am

Frichuela wrote:
nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:
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This should allow the team to trade one of Kuzma or Rui to get a PG.


To me is obvious. Almost sure is Kuzma, Rui brings $$$$ in marketing revenue and the team is playing in Japan in preseason. Terd only cares about the bottom line.

As discussed in a previous thread, I'd do Kuzma to SAC for DiVincenzo (sing-and-trade) + 2nd rounders. Donte is exactly what Brad Beal needs as a backcourt partner: strong defensively (great at rebounding and steals) with size (6'4" with a 6'6" wingspan). Donte is typically slotted at SG but he can play PG effectively.


Kuzma for DiVincenzo? That’s a fireable offense.

The willingness to just dump Kuzma — so strange. It’s the opposite of what I see on other boards, where people overvalue their team’s players.

I think Kuzma can be a key player on a title team. In fact, he already was. He’s a great teammates. Busts his arse. Hits clutch shots. Boards like a beast.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#857 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:34 am

FAH1223 wrote:Lol Brad really ain’t leaving

He was there in the facility when Johnny showed up

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#858 » by NatP4 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:35 am

badinage wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
nate33 wrote:This should allow the team to trade one of Kuzma or Rui to get a PG.


To me is obvious. Almost sure is Kuzma, Rui brings $$$$ in marketing revenue and the team is playing in Japan in preseason. Terd only cares about the bottom line.

As discussed in a previous thread, I'd do Kuzma to SAC for DiVincenzo (sing-and-trade) + 2nd rounders. Donte is exactly what Brad Beal needs as a backcourt partner: strong defensively (great at rebounding and steals) with size (6'4" with a 6'6" wingspan). Donte is typically slotted at SG but he can play PG effectively.


Kuzma for DiVincenzo? That’s a fireable offense.

The willingness to just dump Kuzma — so strange. It’s the opposite of what I see on other boards, where people overvalue their team’s players.

I think Kuzma can be a key player on a title team. In fact, he already was. He’s a great teammates. Busts his arse. Hits clutch shots. Boards like a beast.


You are just completely wrong on this take. Divincenzo is a significantly better player than Kuzma.
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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#859 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:56 am

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Re: Offseason Plan 

Post#860 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:23 am

bsilver wrote:Don’t see going after DiVincenzo. He’s always been a SG.
Tyus Jones is good, but don’t like the idea of such a short backcourt.
Not a popular choice here, but would like to see us get Brogden. Why, since there are so many reasons not to? He’s the best PG we could get. We’re totally f’ed soon as we sign Beal to a max, and that seems inevitable. If the next few years means competing for the 6-8 playoff spots, then do it with the best players.
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