I'm BACKKKKKKKK!!: The Steve Clifford Thread

LofJ · Post #281 » by **LofJ** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:33 pm

I hope he stays true to his word here. LaMelo is our offensive engine and the results were extremely promising last season. We shouldn't have to jettison something that was working to fix our defensive/rebounding issues.

Post #282 » by **fatlever** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:58 pm

Read on Twitter

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Post #283 » by **fatlever** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:59 pm

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-hornets/article262958273.html

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Braggins · Post #284 » by **Braggins** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:23 am

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote::lol:

yosemiteben wrote:I literally can't believe that I have to come up with a new Steve Clifford take. This is crazy.

Marino wrote:Just when you think we turn a corner, the Horncats always come back.

KingCat wrote:Don't let the drafting of Lamelo distract you from the fact that we are the worst franchise in the NBA

I hope brotherdave is ok.

amcoolio · Post #285 » by **amcoolio** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:26 am

He said all the right things. Here's hoping Clifford can change

Braggins · Post #286 » by **Braggins** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:28 am

LofJ wrote:

Read on Twitter

I hope he stays true to his word here. LaMelo is our offensive engine and the results were extremely promising last season. We shouldn't have to jettison something that was working to fix our defensive/rebounding issues.

I'm not going to bother listening to a thing he says. I remember one of his defining features was always saying the right thing and then when it came down to it always doing the same things he always does. I remember him talking about playing at a faster pace countless times when he was coach before and I don't think they ever managed better than league average under him. Hes not going to allow a team he coaches to not be first in the league in defensive rebounding percentage (its the only trick he knows).

Post #287 » by **Diop** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:36 am

Braggins wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote::lol:

yosemiteben wrote:I literally can't believe that I have to come up with a new Steve Clifford take. This is crazy.

Marino wrote:Just when you think we turn a corner, the Horncats always come back.

KingCat wrote:Don't let the drafting of Lamelo distract you from the fact that we are the worst franchise in the NBA

I hope brotherdave is ok.

i was thinking about Brotherdave when it was first announced.

Braggins · Post #288 » by **Braggins** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:38 am

Wouldn't be surprised if they have an exceptionally lucky year with health next season, win 50 games, sign Cliff to a lifetime contract, then never break 40 wins again until LaMelo bolts and hes fired.

Post #289 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:41 am

Braggins wrote:I remember him talking about playing at a faster pace countless times when he was coach before and I don't think they ever managed better than league average under him.

Looked it up, we actually had a higher average league ranking in pace under the last 4 years of Cliff than we did in 4 years under JB.

Also a higher offensive efficiency.

Was surprised to learn that.

Stun704 · Post #290 » by **Stun704** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:33 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Braggins wrote:I remember him talking about playing at a faster pace countless times when he was coach before and I don't think they ever managed better than league average under him.

Looked it up, we actually had a higher average league ranking in pace under the last 4 years of Cliff than we did in 4 years under JB.

Also a higher offensive efficiency.

Was surprised to learn that.

He did all of that with worse players too

Snidely FC · Post #291 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:57 am

Now we know. He was hired to be the baby sitter.

MasterIchiro · Post #292 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:59 am

Snidely FC wrote:Now we know. He was hired to be the baby sitter.

Good babysitters are hard to come by. I'm grateful.

BatumtheGlue · Post #293 » by **BatumtheGlue** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 4:11 am

If the situation won't let us to compete for playoffs or play in this season, is there any chance Cliff to give our young players more minutes to play? At least it will be interesting to see our young players showing up their abilities, even if we are losing/tanking.

Braggins · Post #294 » by **Braggins** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:04 pm

It really hasn't sunk in yet that Steve Clifford is the coach of this team lol.

Post #295 » by **JDR720** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:05 pm

I'm still in dential too.

When we see Plumlee doing his McBob impersonation, then we'll know.

Braggins · Post #296 » by **Braggins** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:08 pm

I can't wait to see lineups with Plumlee and Nic Richards.

Post #297 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:46 pm

Read on Twitter

Some listen and give us Cliff notes (pun intended)

Rich4114 · Post #298 » by **Rich4114** » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:14 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Braggins wrote:I remember him talking about playing at a faster pace countless times when he was coach before and I don't think they ever managed better than league average under him.

Looked it up, we actually had a higher average league ranking in pace under the last 4 years of Cliff than we did in 4 years under JB.

Also a higher offensive efficiency.

Was surprised to learn that.

The rosters Cliff had were hot garbage outside of Kemba. The one year we had some good role players like Lin and Lee, we made the playoffs. I’m starting to warm back up to Cliff. I’m skeptical about his end of game management though.

Roll Tide 09 · Post #299 » by **Roll Tide 09** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:47 am

The more I think about this, the more I really like it. Clifford has a much more stacked team than he did in the past. If he can add defense without subtracting too much offense, the Hornets make it into one of the Top 6 seeds easily.

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Snidely FC · Post #300 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:06 pm

I typically *try* to stay positive with this team, but this Clifford hiring is a final straw kind of thing for me, I just can't abide it

Why would you re-hire a guy who within the last 5 years had to be fired in Charlotte and Orlando

whose style is unfit for Lamelo and the rest of this young roster

Clifford is un-modern, Old School, stubborn, anxious, curmudgeonly, defense first, not a PG whisperer, and a career loser

remember, his last stint here put him in the hospital

do people really expect him, despite this summer's Mister Softee routine, to change his stripes?

there are reasons his re-hiring came with bad optics, widely seen as emblematic of this franchise's incompetence

And do people realize they signed him for 4 years. 4 years!

The way things are going wouldn't surprise me if re-hiring Clifford proves to be the catalyst that drives Lamelo out of Charlotte