The official Josh Minott thread

[Klomp]

I heard an interview from the season where Memphis folks thought Minott might not be done growing. Maybe it’s a bad angle, but Minott looks closer in height to Kessler (7’0.25” barefoot) than Moore (6’4.25” barefoot). Thoughts?

Boy which is he closer in height to. 6'8.25" places him dead center. I'm going with 6'8.5" and closer to Kessler.

That's probably right. For whatever it's worth, Vecenie's draft guide, which seems to have used in-shoe heights, put Minott at 6'9 (Kessler 7'1" and Moore 6'6" for reference point).

[KGdaBom]

I heard an interview from the season where Memphis folks thought Minott might not be done growing. Maybe it’s a bad angle, but Minott looks closer in height to Kessler (7’0.25” barefoot) than Moore (6’4.25” barefoot). Thoughts?

Boy which is he closer in height to. 6'8.25" places him dead center. I'm going with 6'8.5" and closer to Kessler.

That's probably right. For whatever it's worth, Vecenie's draft guide, which seems to have used in-shoe heights, put Minott at 6'9 (Kessler 7'1" and Moore 6'6" for reference point).

Every time I see the words Height in shoes it makes me want to scream. Stop that nonsense.

[Klomp]

Every time I see the words Height in shoes it makes me want to scream. Stop that nonsense.

When not all prospects get measured at the Combine (Minott in this case did not), it serves as at least somewhat of a reference point.

[BlacJacMac]

Every time I see the words Height in shoes it makes me want to scream. Stop that nonsense.

When not all prospects get measured at the Combine (Minott in this case did not), it serves as at least somewhat of a reference point.

Didn't he?

• Measured standing 6-foot-8.75 in shoes with a promising 197-pound frame and a 6-foot-11.75 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Minott grew in-season, has solid size for a forward, and impressed with his combination of energy and athleticism last season.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/josh-minott

[KGdaBom]

Every time I see the words Height in shoes it makes me want to scream. Stop that nonsense.

When not all prospects get measured at the Combine (Minott in this case did not), it serves as at least somewhat of a reference point.

So some player wants to increase his value by artificially inflating his height gets measured in elevator shoes making him 5 inches taller than he really is. Players when they're getting measured for height must take off their shoes.

[KGdaBom]

Every time I see the words Height in shoes it makes me want to scream. Stop that nonsense.

When not all prospects get measured at the Combine (Minott in this case did not), it serves as at least somewhat of a reference point.

Didn't he?

• Measured standing 6-foot-8.75 in shoes with a promising 197-pound frame and a 6-foot-11.75 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Minott grew in-season, has solid size for a forward, and impressed with his combination of energy and athleticism last season.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/josh-minott

I thought combine measurements were supposed to be barefoot now. If that's right than he did not get measured at the combine.

[BlacJacMac]

When not all prospects get measured at the Combine (Minott in this case did not), it serves as at least somewhat of a reference point.

Didn't he?

• Measured standing 6-foot-8.75 in shoes with a promising 197-pound frame and a 6-foot-11.75 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Minott grew in-season, has solid size for a forward, and impressed with his combination of energy and athleticism last season.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/josh-minott

I thought combine measurements were supposed to be barefoot now. If that's right than he did not get measured at the combine.

They measure both ways. Despite that NBA.com article giving his measurements, it appears he wasn't actually measured:

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/

https://www.nbadraft.net/2022-nba-draft-combine-measurements/

[Klomp]

When not all prospects get measured at the Combine (Minott in this case did not), it serves as at least somewhat of a reference point.

Didn't he?

• Measured standing 6-foot-8.75 in shoes with a promising 197-pound frame and a 6-foot-11.75 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Minott grew in-season, has solid size for a forward, and impressed with his combination of energy and athleticism last season.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/josh-minott

I thought combine measurements were supposed to be barefoot now. If that's right than he did not get measured at the combine.

Prospects are measured both with and without shoes. In the NBA's official Combine measurements database, there's no numbers on Minott (could be due to spelling error), which is why I thought he wasn't. He was though, but we still don't have barefoot numbers.

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[KGdaBom]

Didn't he?

• Measured standing 6-foot-8.75 in shoes with a promising 197-pound frame and a 6-foot-11.75 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Minott grew in-season, has solid size for a forward, and impressed with his combination of energy and athleticism last season.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/josh-minott

I thought combine measurements were supposed to be barefoot now. If that's right than he did not get measured at the combine.

They measure both ways. Despite that NBA.com article giving his measurements, it appears he wasn't actually measured:

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/

https://www.nbadraft.net/2022-nba-draft-combine-measurements/

Didn't the NBA officially state a year or two ago that they would from now on only give heights barefoot? Why do they measure both ways? What possible purpose does it have. A person's height is how tall they are WITHOUT SHOES.

[Klomp]

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[KGdaBom]

Didn't he?

• Measured standing 6-foot-8.75 in shoes with a promising 197-pound frame and a 6-foot-11.75 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Minott grew in-season, has solid size for a forward, and impressed with his combination of energy and athleticism last season.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/josh-minott

I thought combine measurements were supposed to be barefoot now. If that's right than he did not get measured at the combine.

Prospects are measured both with and without shoes. In the NBA's official Combine measurements database, there's no numbers on Minott (could be due to spelling error), which is why I thought he wasn't. He was though, but we still don't have barefoot numbers.

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Just under 9" standing reach and under 5% body fat. I like those numbers.

[Klomp]

Seems like a really good kid. I find these comments enlightening!

While life at Memphis has not been a smooth start for Minott, he says that he is committed to making the necessary adjustments to help the team win. In an interview with the Daily Memphian on December 4, Minott said that he has prided himself in being a team-first player during a difficult patch where they lose three games in a row.

"Sacrifice is something I'm willing to do for the team," he said. "That includes body, that includes minutes, that includes everything. I've always been a team-oriented person. I'll never try to go out of my way. I feel like I'm capable of trying to go out there and trying to iso ball, but I feel like I'm sacrificing all that because overall, all I care about is the wins and losses."

In his previous 11 games this season, he averaged 4.3 points a game while playing on average 9.3 minutes per game. While he admits that he may not have the biggest role on the team, Minott says that he feels that his spark can make the difference to help the team win.

"I feel like if I knock the first domino over in bringing us together, then we can continue to progress and come together as a team," Minott said. "I might not be the biggest domino, but I feel like a small one can have enough force to know overall the bigger dominoes and bring us together. I feel like that's what we need more than ever right now."

http://jamaica-star.com/article/sports/20220104/hardaway-praises-minott-improvement

[minimus]

If he grows two inches more we might end up with two MCD type combo forwards. Which will be a nightmare for opponents to score against

[Klomp]

If he grows two inches more we might end up with two MCD type combo forwards. Which will be a nightmare for opponents to score against

Exactly! And he is already a little taller than I was thinking. I had in my mind 6'6" or 6'7". Undersized PF only in weight, not height. He's about 2 inches taller than EJ Liddell fwiw.

[Klomp]

If he grows two inches more we might end up with two MCD type combo forwards. Which will be a nightmare for opponents to score against

In a couple years, imagine running out a defensive disruption lineup of Edwards, McDaniels, Minott, Vanderbilt, Towns.

[minimus]

If he grows two inches more we might end up with two MCD type combo forwards. Which will be a nightmare for opponents to score against

In a couple years, imagine running out a defensive disruption lineup of Edwards, McDaniels, Minott, Vanderbilt, Towns.

Well, Minott is a pure development project. He is so raw, so I wonder whether he will be able to learn so much in these two years. It basically depends on his ability to learn

[Klomp]

Here was that video I mentioned earlier that talked about potential growth spurt.

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[Colbinii]

I was shocked that John Hollinger had Minott ranked 10th on his board for The Athletic!

10. Josh Minott | 6-8 freshman | SF/PF | Memphis

Jalen Duren and, to a lesser extent, Emoni Bates got a lot of the attention on Memphis this year, while Minott saw his role fluctuate wildly, and he was hardly playing by the end of the year. Minott is also a bad shooter (2 of 14 on 3s in 2021-22) and will be 19 1/2 on draft day, making him a bit old for a freshman.

And yet … the analytics on Minott are really impressive, with a sky-high steal rate of a big forward (3.6 per 100 possessions in AAC play), a positive assist-turnover rate and a 14.4 percent rebound rate despite often paying next to a lottery center. History says it would be folly to ignore a player who passes this deftly and gets his hand on this many balls at the defensive end. Even the shooting has some promise — he hit 75.4 percent from the line. It’s not like he was an empty offensive force either, scoring a very respectable 25.3 points per 100 possessions. He didn’t play much, but when he did, he was quite effective.

Defensively, Minott can be tight-hipped and slow with his first slide, and a bit over-reliant on using his hands to compensate for it. He also picks up a lot of fouls that way, part of his insane foul rate (6.2 per 100 possessions).

That said, Minott probably plays closer to the dribbler of any other player I saw in this size class, which is notable — players tell on themselves by how much cushion they give the dribbler. Minott has tremendous hands and long arms and legs; he uses the former to flick the ball from unsuspecting dribblers, and the latter to make up ground if he’s initially beat. Minott goes for the ball a bit too often, a high-risk strategy that can leave an open downhill run if it fails, and because he’s thin and has a high center of gravity, he can pick up fouls when opponents get into his body or spin off him.

Keep in mind Hollinger has also previously had Rondae Hollis-Jefferson worth like $10-15 million, when he can't even get a minimum contract in the league.

He was also super high on Sengun [As am I] so I am going to go with "Hollinger is right" in this scenario.

[fattymcgee]

I thought combine measurements were supposed to be barefoot now. If that's right than he did not get measured at the combine.

They measure both ways. Despite that NBA.com article giving his measurements, it appears he wasn't actually measured:

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/

https://www.nbadraft.net/2022-nba-draft-combine-measurements/

Didn't the NBA officially state a year or two ago that they would from now on only give heights barefoot? Why do they measure both ways? What possible purpose does it have. A person's height is how tall they are WITHOUT SHOES.

This has always bothered me too, but now at 45yrs old I finally realized something. They also have to measure vertical (which would have to be in shoes) which means they also measure standing reach in shoes so it would make sense to also measure height in shoes.

The problem is (as you've said) that shoes can make a difference in height so it's not comparing apples to apples.

[KGdaBom]

Here was that video I mentioned earlier that talked about potential growth spurt.

Watch on YouTube

Is it possible to be playing in the G League and be a slam dunk contestant in the NBA? He's definitely got what it takes.
He plays the game the right way. With passion and a non stop motor. When he makes a dunk he is not admiring it, but already on his way to play D before it gets through the twine.