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Post#1101 » by El Pooch Grande » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:00 pm

Can't see Bamba coming here. That has been a fantasy of this board, but not in real life. There's never been a mention of our interest anywhere regarding him, and the guy can't shoot from deep to draw coverage away from Giannis ala Brook.
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Post#1102 » by LuessiT » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:07 pm

El Pooch Grande wrote:Can't see Bamba coming here. That has been a fantasy of this board, but not in real life. There's never been a mention of our interest anywhere regarding him, and the guy can't shoot from deep to draw coverage away from Giannis ala Brook.


What??? That's exactly what he can do. That's like his only appeal on O.
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Post#1103 » by WRau1 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:07 pm

I've never seen some one like Bamba who is insanely fast straight-line but is stuck in the mud when he has to move side to side. It's so weird.
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Post#1104 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:14 pm

If Bamba was any good Orlando wouldn't be risking losing him for nothing when he's still young and supposedly on the rise. If he was as good as this board makes him out to be teams would be lining up to give him the MLE if not more.
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Post#1105 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:15 pm

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Don't think that does anything directly for us, except save like 5 million in taxes. For some teams it max be significant.

I agree it doesn't change our strategy. The owners probably already knew this was happening and put it in our calculations already. But I think we are in the $x tax range? The cap raising $12m would raise the tax $12m, so skimming off the highest bracket wouldn't that save like $50m?
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Post#1106 » by WRau1 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:17 pm

MVP2110 wrote:If Bamba was any good Orlando wouldn't be risking losing him for nothing when he's still young and supposedly on the rise. If he was as good as this board makes him out to be teams would be lining up to give him the MLE if not more.


He's getting interest from a lot of teams and ORL refused to deal him at the deadline. He'll definitely getting some teams full MLE, likely CHI's if they strike out w/ Capela/Ayton/Gobert.
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Post#1107 » by LuessiT » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:18 pm

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Don't think that does anything directly for us, except save like 5 million in taxes. For some teams it max be significant.

I agree it doesn't change our strategy. The owners probably already knew this was happening and put it in our calculations already. But I think we are in the $x tax range? The cap raising $12m would raise the tax $12m, so skimming off the highest bracket wouldn't that save like $50m?


It's rising 10% from last year, to 123.6m. So 1.6m more than expected. The tweet is badly worded.
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Post#1108 » by raferfenix » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:20 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:During the playoffs Oladipo was a big-time chucker, who was tossing up brick after brick. He still thought he was the 2018 Indiana version of himself. He's not.

I could see him wanting to go to a bad team where he can chuck and maybe get another big contract next season.


Sounds like the Kings are the team for him.

Speaking of which, any word from Donte?

Imagine a Dipo acquisition wouldn’t help his chances at the big deal he’s been gunning for.
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Post#1109 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:22 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:If Bamba was any good Orlando wouldn't be risking losing him for nothing when he's still young and supposedly on the rise. If he was as good as this board makes him out to be teams would be lining up to give him the MLE if not more.


He's getting interest from a lot of teams and ORL refused to deal him at the deadline. He'll definitely getting some teams full MLE, likely CHI's if they strike out w/ Capela/Ayton/Gobert.


Good I hope the Bulls sign him
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Post#1110 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:23 pm

I don't really get the Bamba fascination. The rim-protection is nice but just watch him on defense and he has zero instincts out there. On offense he's strictly a catch & shoot dude above the break (he sucks from the corners). Hasn't added any muscle and the functional strength to be a great pick & roll big and rim-runner just isn't there. I get the appeal if you're a team like Detroit or Washington, but not for us. Can't be spending our only valuable salary exceptions on fliers like him.
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Post#1111 » by LuessiT » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:23 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:During the playoffs Oladipo was a big-time chucker, who was tossing up brick after brick. He still thought he was the 2018 Indiana version of himself. He's not.

I could see him wanting to go to a bad team where he can chuck and maybe get another big contract next season.


Sounds like the Kings are the team for him.

Speaking of which, any word from Donte?

Imagine a Dipo acquisition wouldn’t help his chances at the big deal he’s been gunning for.


Only thing I found is:

https://kings-beat.beehiiv.com/p/sunday-musings-assessing-kings-assets-heading-draft-free-agency

There are teams that have interest in DiVincenzo. He is likely to land an offer sheet somewhere around the mid level exception range. Before he does that, there is a small window where the Kings could potentially sign and trade him to another team, if he agrees.

The Kings’ front office and DiVincenzo’s camp haven’t been on the same page since his arrival. It’s not too late to mend fences, but there could come a point in the near future when DiVincenzo shifts from a potential rotational or foundation piece to a trade chip.

Chance of returning to Kings: 60 percent. The Kings like DiVincenzo, but they also know that they need to add major talent improvements all over the roster. They can match any offer and figure out moves down the road, but you don’t want a disgruntled player on a new long term deal. Break bread and move forward together or find a way to get something in return in a sign-and-trade.
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Post#1112 » by Profound23 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:24 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:During the playoffs Oladipo was a big-time chucker, who was tossing up brick after brick. He still thought he was the 2018 Indiana version of himself. He's not.

I could see him wanting to go to a bad team where he can chuck and maybe get another big contract next season.


Sounds like the Kings are the team for him.

Speaking of which, any word from Donte?

Imagine a Dipo acquisition wouldn’t help his chances at the big deal he’s been gunning for.


To be fair there was no offense on that team besides Butler (and occasionally BAM) so the Heat stated they need Oladipo to shoot more. I would rather go with other options, but that would not be a reason to not acquire him.

Personally, I would rather sign Sexton if possible.
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Post#1113 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:24 pm

El Pooch Grande wrote:Can't see Bamba coming here. That has been a fantasy of this board, but not in real life. There's never been a mention of our interest anywhere regarding him, and the guy can't shoot from deep to draw coverage away from Giannis ala Brook.

OT: Are we sure Brolo is a good 3 point shooter at this point? Over the last 3 years he shot 33% (league average for Center is 32%); he was 1-13 against boston. All this with Giannis bringing in the main defenders. I feel he is living off his reputation from his first year with us where he was on-fire and honestly I think teams were still getting used to him being willing to shoot 3s at that point. I'm a little nervous he shoots low 30s again.
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Post#1114 » by LuessiT » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:25 pm

I'm into Bamba if we get him on the full tax MLE (3 years). Anything less I feel like we can do better.
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Post#1115 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:25 pm

Rstuedes24 wrote:When does actual free agency start?


Started a few days ago. For the Bucks, it begins about 4pm ET on July 1st.
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Post#1116 » by Profound23 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:30 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
Rstuedes24 wrote:When does actual free agency start?


Started a few days ago. For the Bucks, it begins about 4pm ET on July 1st.



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Post#1117 » by crowhead76 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:33 pm

Bucks out:Hill, Tucker, Vildoza, 2rp
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Bucks TMLE: Delon Wright

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Post#1118 » by raferfenix » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:34 pm

LuessiT wrote:There are teams that have interest in DiVincenzo. He is likely to land an offer sheet somewhere around the mid level exception range. Before he does that, there is a small window where the Kings could potentially sign and trade him to another team, if he agrees.


Do we really imagine there are team/s who like Donte so much (but not so much to acquire him at the deadline) that they would both give him the MLE and trade assets for the privilege of doing so?

That report seems to bode very ill for the Big Ragu.

Whatever he did to make the Bucks prefer dumping him for Ibaka and some 2nds was probably a very poor career move.
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Post#1119 » by LuessiT » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:38 pm

raferfenix wrote:
LuessiT wrote:There are teams that have interest in DiVincenzo. He is likely to land an offer sheet somewhere around the mid level exception range. Before he does that, there is a small window where the Kings could potentially sign and trade him to another team, if he agrees.


Do we really imagine there are team/s who like Donte so much (but not so much to acquire him at the deadline) that they would both give him the MLE and trade assets for the privilege of doing so?

That report seems to bode very ill for the Big Ragu.

Whatever he did to make the Bucks prefer dumping him for Ibaka and some 2nds was probably a very poor career move.


It's a King's fan page. I would think they'd be very optimisitc in their assessment.
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Post#1120 » by CharityStripe34 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:51 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I don't really get the Bamba fascination. The rim-protection is nice but just watch him on defense and he has zero instincts out there. On offense he's strictly a catch & shoot dude above the break (he sucks from the corners). Hasn't added any muscle and the functional strength to be a great pick & roll big and rim-runner just isn't there. I get the appeal if you're a team like Detroit or Washington, but not for us. Can't be spending our only valuable salary exceptions on fliers like him.


He's 10 years younger than Brook and actually shoots a decent percentage from 3? Great shot-blocker too.

I suppose the gamble would be his work-ethic issues (or perceived). I would imagine coming to a title contender with Gianni, Jrue, Khris, Pat, etc. would help.
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