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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#421 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:22 am

Don't sell me on a brunson off-season and no other changes.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#422 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:24 am

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A Sexton/Brunson backcourt would get annihiliated on defense on a nightly basis. Don't underestimate balance and fit---next to talent it is the most important variable. Brunson should ideally playing next to a good defender at the 2, preferably a taller, disruptive one.


That guy was Murray and we didn't want to pay the price. Its probably going to need to be Grimes and maybe D.Mitch if we pull it off (6'10 wingspan). Grimes can play that role at least to a point. Also lets not forget RJ can play at the 2 as well.

Small forward is kind of our thin spot.


And I am thankful we didn't make the trade for Murray. A non-playoff team trading unprotected future 1sts has high disaster potential. We finally win the lotto and Spurs take our pick.


That absolutely would happen with the Knicks horrendous draft luck.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#423 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:28 am

mpharris36 wrote:Don't sell me on a brunson off-season and no other changes.


They are going to sell you on the fact that all the Knicks players that were injured last season, like Randle and Mitch, are coming back healthier than ever. :lol:
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#424 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:51 am

mpharris36 wrote:Don't sell me on a brunson off-season and no other changes.


They also have over 200 picks over the next 100 years
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#425 » by NotDikembeSayNo » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:52 am

mpharris36 wrote:Don't sell me on a brunson off-season and no other changes.


they’re going to sell us on Brunson and flexibility moving forward. Then when we miss the playoffs they’ll sell us on flexibility. Then when we yet again don’t acquire a game changer they’ll sell us on flexibility. Basically the same garbage as the last two years.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#426 » by Davis18 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:00 pm

Smart team like Spurs develop 2nd rd pick then turn them into 3 1st rd picks and tank timely when generational talent is available via draft.. as for our beloved Knicks........ we all know the story.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#427 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:10 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
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A Sexton/Brunson backcourt would get annihiliated on defense on a nightly basis. Don't underestimate balance and fit---next to talent it is the most important variable. Brunson should ideally playing next to a good defender at the 2, preferably a taller, disruptive one.


That guy was Murray and we didn't want to pay the price. Its probably going to need to be Grimes and maybe D.Mitch if we pull it off (6'10 wingspan). Grimes can play that role at least to a point. Also lets not forget RJ can play at the 2 as well.

Small forward is kind of our thin spot.


And I am thankful we didn't make the trade for Murray. A non-playoff team trading unprotected future 1sts has high disaster potential. We finally win the lotto and Spurs take our pick.

The Murray trade had disaster written all over it.

I don't like it for the Hawks, but at least they already have their franchise player, so they can always pivot, presumably.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#428 » by BBALLER4FR » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:21 pm

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I actually have this tattooed on my leg lol


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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#429 » by Reign23 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:28 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Don't sell me on a brunson off-season and no other changes.

- dumped Burks, Kemba and Noel
- added draft picks

I'm fine with the offseason, even if we don't add another player after Brunson.
That should leave enough minutes for Grimes and IQ.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#430 » by DOT » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:33 pm

It's just like last year

"Dude, who cares that the pick we got for 18 is heavily protected and will be 16th at best, we got a future 1st!"

Then we trade the pick

"Dude, that pick sucked, it had such low value, I never wanted it."

Now this year

"Wow, look at how amazing Leon is, getting 3 first round picks for the 11th pick, there's so much value there!"

Then once we trade them next offseason to dump Fournier when he's an expiring:

"Wow, I can't believe Leon managed to pull that one off. We got out of Fournier's insane deal that somehow happened while Leon had his back turned and all we had to give up was those 3 trash 1st round picks. I mean, look at the protections, they're basically worthless!"
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Post#431 » by HopelessKnick » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:36 pm

-YogiBiz- wrote:
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Sexton didn’t play this year.


A Sexton/Brunson backcourt would get annihiliated on defense on a nightly basis. Don't underestimate balance and fit---next to talent it is the most important variable. Brunson should ideally playing next to a good defender at the 2, preferably a taller, disruptive one.


I agree. But he said it worked nicely in Cleveland and I was just saying no Sexton didn’t play.



Yes sorry, I was too lazy to go back pages to quote correctly. It wasn't directed at you at all. My point was directed towards "it worked nicely in Cleveland"--sometimes these unbalanced line-ups do indeed work out, but in most cases they don't imo.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#432 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:37 pm

I really wish the Knicks had stood pat and run back the same team. Everything else is so terrible.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#433 » by robillionaire » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:37 pm

DOT wrote:It's just like last year

"Dude, who cares that the pick we got for 18 is heavily protected and will be 16th at best, we got a future 1st!"

Then we trade the pick

"Dude, that pick sucked, it had such low value, I never wanted it."

Now this year

"Wow, look at how amazing Leon is, getting 3 first round picks for the 11th pick, there's so much value there!"

Then once we trade them next offseason to dump Fournier when he's an expiring:

"Wow, I can't believe Leon managed to pull that one off. We got out of Fournier's insane deal that somehow happened while Leon had his back turned and all we had to give up was those 3 trash 1st round picks. I mean, look at the protections, they're basically worthless!"


Hey that pick was already used to get reddish and now by the hawks to get Murray :lol:
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#434 » by Dave DaButcher » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:37 pm

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Still unconvinced that committing $110m to an admittedly solid Brunson is a superior strategy to just giving IQ a shot at starting PG and retaining some of the assets that had to be aggressively dumped to clear cap space to enable the signing.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#435 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:40 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:
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Still unconvinced that committing $110m to an admittedly solid Brunson is a superior strategy to just giving IQ a shot at starting PG and retaining some of the assets that had to be aggressively dumped to clear cap space to enable the signing.


They could move last legs Rose and still get IQ his 30 mpg, though might cut into some Grimes or Cam time. Assumes Fournier is gone somehow.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#436 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:40 pm

I hate the Knicks have any kind of depth at all with their youth because it makes me butthurt one of them might not play 30 minutes.

Still, I would not have moved Burks and Noel because those were bad deals and need to stay on the books until they expire.

Very upset over a late first that turned into Cam. Could have gotten Murray with it like Hawks did, if only the Knicks traded two of their own unprotected 1st rounders.
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Post#437 » by BBALLER4FR » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:45 pm

We haven't even gotten Brunson and the dude is seeking a meeting with Miami. That's not good at all!

For those of you who think it's an overpay to give up 3 picks for Murray - we gave up the #11 and Duren for NOTHING but 3 firsts likely to become rubbish. We did all of that so we could go balls to the wall to pay Brunson 27.5 mil a year... and he's extending Riley the chance to undercut us!! We don't want to part with those S#!tty picks for Murray but the Hawks jumped at the opportunity to pair Trae with him at the cost of Gallo and 3 picks. Their perimeter defense is going to be fort Knox. Who cares that their new SG can't shoot when their PG can launch with accuracy from Siberia and the supporting cast ain't too shabby either. Meanwhile, we wait for Brunson's decision and we're forced to buy into "Getting Brunson and moving Burkes is the key to success" because neither Kemba nor Noel played much last season and they would not have made any difference.
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Post#439 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:47 pm

When Knicks traded Burks, Brunson decided not to come because Knicks gutted team
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#440 » by robillionaire » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:49 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Dave DaButcher wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Still unconvinced that committing $110m to an admittedly solid Brunson is a superior strategy to just giving IQ a shot at starting PG and retaining some of the assets that had to be aggressively dumped to clear cap space to enable the signing.


They could move last legs Rose and still get IQ his 30 mpg, though might cut into some Grimes or Cam time. Assumes Fournier is gone somehow.


Even with Burks gone we will still have a massive logjam at the position because they are planning on replacing his minutes with Brunson. Kemba wasn’t going to play anyway so it didn’t clear up any minutes, and then you might have Rose coming back. So an even bigger logjam than last year. And some people still think McBride should play too. So yeah at least 1-2 more of these dudes need to go

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