Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal

[robillionaire]

Are you serious rn?

Brunson is a non-rookie contract player who’s now making 20% of the entire salary cap. Brunson + Randle + Fournier = 50% of the entire cap.

Any sane team would never have signed 25 year old veteran Julius Randle after being bad in 2019, just as any sane team would have purged all the veteran contracts to start IQ/Obi in 2022-23.

This is exactly the same thing. It’s the Steve Mills plan. Which was always just the Isiah plan. I like Brunson, but it is what it is and there’s very little hope of competing for championships at any point during the remainder of Brunson’s likely career.

When did Isaiah have 11 first rounders or whatever we have

Oh man, you really got me!

It’s the evolution of Isiah. Isiah traded all available assets for Marbury. Donnie Walsh was required to trade the kitchen sink for Carmelo. And Leon is clearly playing the same script, albeit much more methodically.

This script has been failing for 23 years, but yeah Brunson is an exciting shiny new toy. This totally isn’t exactly the same mistake Mills made literally three seasons ago with Randle. We should compete for the 8 seed and two home playoff games! Ticket prices will be lit. LFG!

I wasn’t trying to “get you” my man just saying why I don’t see how this comparison makes any sense when we have all our picks and many additional firsts and this wasn’t even a trade. Randle had never been in the playoffs when we signed him and we saw Brunson look nice in the playoffs so I don’t get that comparison either.

[j4remi]

The Knicks got a genuinely good PG fresh off being the number two on a WCF team, and he's only 25 years old. I'm good with this move.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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[Manhattan Project]

Damn, after seeing what Simons just went for, I might have to take back my slight overpay comment.

And it's $104M, not $110, according to Haynes. That's 21.1% of the cap - not a big deal AT ALL:

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It falls in line with the going rate of an average starting point guard, stealing him away from another team and coming to New York. I was hoping we'd be able to get him for around the contract Lonzo got last offseason, this brings it closer. Not like it matters at the end of the day, he helps this team moving forward.

[DOT]

Brunson is basically what people thought Trey Burke was.

[SelbyCobra]

I posted this earlier, but it's worth repeating. If Haynes is correct and it's a 4/$104M deal, that's 21.0% of the expected $123.6M cap next year.

That is roughly the same cap percentage (19.3%) as the 4/$54M deal Robin Lopez signed with the Knicks in 2015 ($70M cap).

Due to the salary cap rising, that Lopez deal and this Brunson deal have almost the same cap impact.

This is a good deal if Brunson is an above average player. Doesn't even have to be a star (but fingers crossed he makes that leap).

[HEZI]

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Those new guards will end up on larger contracts, because the cap is going up.


We're in a league where Kyle Lowry makes $30 million per.

And Miami is looking to dump that salary after 1 year experiment. You are proving my point. There are bad deals in the NBA and Brunson just became one of them

How am I proving your point? The going rate for a starting PG is around $23 million, outside of rookie contract guys there are no cheap PGs that are good.

Are Fox and SGA really worth $10 million more per season than him?

110 mil for an average PG is insanity but Knicks are thirsty so I get it

[GONYK]

I posted this earlier, but it's worth repeating. If Haynes is correct and it's a 4/$104M deal, that's 21.0% of the expected $123.6M cap next year.

That is roughly the same cap percentage (19.3%) as the 4/$54M deal Robin Lopez signed with the Knicks in 2015 ($70M cap).

Due to the salary cap rising, that Lopez deal and this Brunson deal have almost the same cap impact.

This is a good deal if Brunson is an above average player. Doesn't even have to be a star (but fingers crossed he makes that leap).

He just has to be a top 15 PG in the league to justify his salary

[El Poochio]

I posted this earlier, but it's worth repeating. If Haynes is correct and it's a 4/$104M deal, that's 21.0% of the expected $123.6M cap next year.

That is roughly the same cap percentage (19.3%) as the 4/$54M deal Robin Lopez signed with the Knicks in 2015 ($70M cap).

Due to the salary cap rising, that Lopez deal and this Brunson deal have almost the same cap impact.

This is a good deal if Brunson is an above average player. Doesn't even have to be a star (but fingers crossed he makes that leap).

He just has to be a top 15 PG in the league to justify his salary

I will take if he can he a top 15 backup

[NoDopeOnSundays]

And Miami is looking to dump that salary after 1 year experiment. You are proving my point. There are bad deals in the NBA and Brunson just became one of them

How am I proving your point? The going rate for a starting PG is around $23 million, outside of rookie contract guys there are no cheap PGs that are good.

Are Fox and SGA really worth $10 million more per season than him?

110 mil for an average PG is insanity but Knicks are thirsty so I get it

$104 million to be exact



You didn't answer whether or not Fox / SGA were worth $10 million more per, and also Tyus Jones, a backup is getting $15 million per. If he's better than a backup, and not as good as Fox/SGA, then his per year should fall right between them, which it does.

[El Poochio]

I posted this earlier, but it's worth repeating. If Haynes is correct and it's a 4/$104M deal, that's 21.0% of the expected $123.6M cap next year.

That is roughly the same cap percentage (19.3%) as the 4/$54M deal Robin Lopez signed with the Knicks in 2015 ($70M cap).

Due to the salary cap rising, that Lopez deal and this Brunson deal have almost the same cap impact.

This is a good deal if Brunson is an above average player. Doesn't even have to be a star (but fingers crossed he makes that leap).

Yes cuz signing Robin Lopez was such a masterstroke for us

[3toheadmelo]

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[Synciere]

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LOL..

It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.

[omerome]

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LOL..

It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.

Damn. So you can't even talk to your dad anymore?

[El Poochio]

Brunson is basically what people thought Trey Burke was.

Good comp

[El Poochio]

edited title to $104m

Title confirmed

[TerrenceClarke]

Listen man. Y’all should already know the drill as Knick fans…. all this rational/joy/excitement will look different in February….

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.

Prove it

[3toheadmelo]

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It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.

Prove it

[SelbyCobra]

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It is if your dad is an employee of a different organization; let’s be real.

I really don't think so - just don't discuss numbers and specifics. Just because a father and son work in the NBA for separate teams does not mean that they can't discuss the son's career and what he wants to do going forward.

It's definitely a loophole and an advantage, but it's also common sense. They're literally family, and as long as they weren't hashing out the legal terms and coming to official agreements, I don't believe there's anything enforceable regarding Jalen and Rick (or even Leon, honestly - he's been a confidant and mentor for Jalen's entire life).