Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba

[basketballRob]

Lol he’s better than Bamba. He can drive, score in the post, make a decent decision and shoot a little. They are both equally bad on defense. But Moe W is far, far tougher

No he's not. Moe is a horrendous defender.



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Franz defensive RAPTOR +0.8
Bamba defensive RAPTOR +0.6

Defensively, for all the support going Franz way and bashing going Bamba's way, it's not really justifiable.

Moe was -1.5.

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[Skin]

No he's not. Moe is a horrendous defender.



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Franz defensive RAPTOR +0.8
Bamba defensive RAPTOR +0.6

Defensively, for all the support going Franz way and bashing going Bamba's way, it's not really justifiable.

Moe was -1.5.

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You're looking at total RAPTOR. I showed defensive only.

[basketballRob]

Franz defensive RAPTOR +0.8
Bamba defensive RAPTOR +0.6

Defensively, for all the support going Franz way and bashing going Bamba's way, it's not really justifiable.

Moe was -1.5.

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You're looking at total RAPTOR. I showed defensive only.

That was Moe's defensive Raptor score. His overall raptor was -1.1.

Edit: I think you were looking at Franz and not Moe.

[Skin]

Moe was -1.5.

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You're looking at total RAPTOR. I showed defensive only.

That was Moe's defensive Raptor score. His overall raptor was -1.1.

Edit: I think you were looking at Franz and not Moe.

Bruh the only thing I see is 1.1 WAR for Bamba.

I don't know what the difference is in what we're seeing but in either case Bamba was not the terrible defender that is preached around here. Plus when you factor in his rebounding and ability to stretch the floor and he is a player that could succeed around the right environment.

[basketballRob]

You're looking at total RAPTOR. I showed defensive only.

That was Moe's defensive Raptor score. His overall raptor was -1.1.

Edit: I think you were looking at Franz and not Moe.

Bruh the only thing I see is 1.1 WAR for Bamba.

I don't know what the difference is in what we're seeing but in either case Bamba was not the terrible defender that is preached around here. Plus when you factor in his rebounding and ability to stretch the floor and he is a player that could succeed around the right environment.

We were talking about Moritz Wagner. You have to lower the minutes to like 400 to find his Raptor.

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[cedric76]

Mo is back

[cedric76]

So cheap

[fendilim]

Nice

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Like I figured

[Last Guardian]

M. Wagner isn't a backup center. He's a end of the bench player.

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Lol he’s better than Bamba. He can drive, score in the post, make a decent decision and shoot a little. They are both equally bad on defense. But Moe W is far, far tougher

We all love Moe Wagner, but I don't think that's realistic...for all of Mo Bamba's faults, he can really shoot, finish lobs, and deter shots. We're talking backups here, but still...

Bamba literally has to have all his shots created by someone else and if he has to do something on his own he screws it up. He’s one of the worse drop off passers and screeners in the league. He has little endurance and provides almost no resistance in the post. Deter shots? Most of the time he doesn’t even jump. Yes 7 footers with huge wingspans get blocks from time to time. It’s like saying Steven Hunter was good because he could dunk and block a shot sometimes. IMO

He’s back now though so…hope he gets better lol

[Last Guardian]

Lol he’s better than Bamba. He can drive, score in the post, make a decent decision and shoot a little. They are both equally bad on defense. But Moe W is far, far tougher

No he's not. Moe is a horrendous defender.



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Franz defensive RAPTOR +0.8
Bamba defensive RAPTOR +0.6

Defensively, for all the support going Franz way and bashing going Bamba's way, it's not really justifiable.

Franz was ok, I didn’t think he was amazing on defense. Suggs, WCJ and Okeke were the best defenders. if the stats say otherwise I don’t really care. It’s pretty clear just watching the game

[Skybox]

Lol he’s better than Bamba. He can drive, score in the post, make a decent decision and shoot a little. They are both equally bad on defense. But Moe W is far, far tougher

We all love Moe Wagner, but I don't think that's realistic...for all of Mo Bamba's faults, he can really shoot, finish lobs, and deter shots. We're talking backups here, but still...

Bamba literally has to have all his shots created by someone else and if he has to do something on his own he screws it up. He’s one of the worse drop off passers and screeners in the league. He has little endurance and provides almost no resistance in the post. Deter shots? Most of the time he doesn’t even jump. Yes 7 footers with huge wingspans get blocks from time to time. It’s like saying Steven Hunter was good because he could dunk and block a shot sometimes. IMO

He’s back now though so…hope he gets better lol

All this hand-wringing about ‘creation’ …somebody has to actually make the open 3’s our two best players are creators (not even counting Fultz and Suggs) who haven’t proven they can reliably hit 3’s. Everybody’s cheering WCJ for taking 3’s for the first time in his career- maybe this year, he makes some….I’m rooting for them all to develop 3’s but we were bottom 3 (I think) and fans want to jettison the only two guys that made any. Bamba’s not very good, but you can’t not shoot 3’s and have a prayer in this NBA.

He’s in for a backup role…the better he plays, the more minutes he earns. Relax…worry more about why your #5 draft pick can’t make a shot. (I love Suggs but he NEEDS to make a big leap…now!)

[Howard Mass]

I really saw if Bamba would stay or go a toss up with him leaning towards leaving for a bigger role.

I'm glad he's back though and it's kind of funny how some people assumed he was out the door.