Mark Cuban must go!

[Mavrelous]

After the 2011 championship, Cuban went on multiple adventures of creating cap and try to sign FA, that ultimately wasted Dirk's last 4-5 good seasons, I found it understandable, even though Cuban threw lots of money on bad players, he at least tried, and was capable of building great team 2005-2007 and the dead weight contracts he had in 2010 allowed him to build the contender that won the championship.
In 2018, they went all in on Luka, and it paid off, they got the best talent to enter the league in a decade, what went down after that was a series of mind boggling **** ups one after the other.

Trades:
They traded for KP and maxed him immediately, there was no hedging in this plan, 2020 pick was unprotected, 2022 pick protection made it crippling to trade draft picks, KP is lanky 7'3", the history in these players is very problematic, the deal backfired, and KP had to be dumped for distressed assets.
The only reason Mavs didn't give away a top 10 pick in 2020 is because Luka Doncic blowing by any reasonable expectation and carrying the team to PO while being 1st team all NBA.
Dumped Harrison Barnes, he was overpaid, but he was talented, and fits as an off ball player next to Luka, you don't want allocate 20/yr to Barnes but want to allocate 18/yr to Powell + Burke + Boban ????
You had a shooter on a good deal in Curry, went and gambled him on a player that didn't fit, even if JRich was good defender, he was skinny and weak and not a difference maker on that end.

FA signing and contract extensions:
Signed Dwight Powell 44/4 4 years contract, that extended into the year Luka's max extensions was supposed kick in, even if you wanted to reward him, the guy's ceiling is half the yearly salary he got, and you had no business polluting the cap sheet when your generational talent max extension kicks in.
Signed Trey Burke to 10/3 contract when 2 months prior he was out of the league, again, 3 millions ate from your cap space is your cap space year and 3.5 were deep in tax land the year Luka's extension kicked in.
Both of these signings were galringly aweful the day they were made, there was no need for hindsight.
All 4 players traded for Wood, Brown, Burke, Boban and Chriss had absolutely no business being on the cap this year, none, Mavs weren't outbidding anyone, the cap should've been cleaner and more flexible, you simply created 13 millions of deadweight contracts the year you needed cap the most.
You fail to retain you 2nd best player, after you declined to extend him in the previous off season because you wanted to get cute and try to trade for talent, you need to keep your option open and try to salvage with an another FA, you go ahead a give 20/3 to a career journeyman who hasn't made this kind of money in 10 years, WTF are you doing???
In the year where you had cap space you went ahead an wasted it on THJ, when you have a shooter waiting to be dumped in Hield, you could've traded Powell for Hield, used THJ S&T to get a player you wanted in Markennen (NOP wanted THJ, CHI wanted Lonzo Ball, and Markannen to DAL could've been a 3rd of S&T), this would've cleaned your cap sheet, again absolutely 0 foresight, 0 planning, 0 hedging for your repeated **** ups.


Draft:
2021 draft **** show, you had TCU star who fit next to Luka available in Bane, college level proven player in Bey, local kid with tons of potential in Maxey, you had both the 19th, 31st pick and 36th, Boston was looking to unload the guaranteed slaary and roster spot at 30, you went on and wasted the 3 picks you had, when you needed cheap rotation players to be able to use the cap space.


Mavs have made the PO for 3 straight times, and each time the roster had major holes in it, during these years, you had cap space, you had 3 good picks in 2021, only value Mavs got from all of this is Bullock on the MLE, nothing else was worth a damn, and to boot, you lost your 2nd best player because of bad setup in rookie contract, and bad cap sheet in extension year.
Dragic was begging to come to the Mavs, you need to clear cap this year, you could've traded Powell 22/2 for Dragic 20/1, cleaned you cap sheet and got a mentor and playoff proven vet, but no, again you get cute, operate over the cap, and couldn't get a deal done.
All of this could've been seen as bad strategy from the get go, and yet you continue to make stupid mistake after stupid mistake, this team has been wildly mismanaged, the only saving grace is Luka being ****.

Each year I make exuses and say they'll fix it next year, the truth is, they keep digging themselves into deeper holes.

[41Dirk41]

It's too late, now we can only hope that Nico is a magician.

[Mavrelous]

It's too late, now we can only hope that Nico is a magician.

He isn't, he mismanaged last off season and this offseason, he lucked into Bullock for the MLE, that's his only saving grace.

[dirkules_41]

KhalilS must go? I mean what's the point of this thread? Yes Cuban has made mistakes but if you want to look up what Mavs ownership looked like prior to him or what many other teams deal with you might want to delete this thread rather quickly.

[Mavrelous]

KhalilS must go? I mean what's the point of this thread? Yes Cuban has made mistakes but if you want to look up what Mavs ownership looked like prior to him or what many other teams deal with you might want to delete this thread rather quickly.

I'm not old enough to know, but does it matter? Should we all be happy Mavs aren't the Wizards or the Kings?
This is buzarre, pleayers like Dirk and Luka give huge wiggle room to make mistakes, they used all the room and then some.

[Archx]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

[41Dirk41]

It's too late, now we can only hope that Nico is a magician.

He isn't, he mismanaged last off season and this offseason, he lucked into Bullock for the MLE, that's his only saving grace.

Last off season was a disaster, i agree... A lot of unplayable players and overpaid Bullock.
Luckily he played well and , probably because of Luka, he earned that money.

This year he makes an eccellent trade for Wood, the Brunson fiasco is a Cuban/Nelson mistake. He can't do nothing.

McGee is overpaid but at least he can play and we will no more see pussy Powell in the PO. Thanks God.

[Mavrelous]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

Donnie left him with Powell and Burke, he walked into Boban, Brown and Chriss on his own, he knew how the cap looked, why did he do it? He had the chance to dump Powell last season, I can't imagine Raps saying no to Dragic for Powell, they need wiggle room under the tax really bad and needed a center, he went and operated over the cap, THJ shouldn't have been signed to that deal, he's a product of Luka, everyone knew it, he could've capitalized on it and leveraged him in a S&T.
This team couldn't afford piling on mistakes, yet they find ways to keep doing it.

[Bob8]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

Roster for 160 mio+ is honestly disastrous. Luka is making it passable, but having mostly players that other teams dumped or were undrafted is just weird.

[Michaellam1987]

Do whatever proper thing you need to do before dream big. Hopefully Brunson this thing gives our front office something learnt.

[Archx]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

Roster for 160 mio+ is honestly disastrous. Luka is making it passable, but having mostly players that other teams dumped or were undrafted is just weird.

Well yeah, but what else can they do other than wait for these contracts to expire? THJ's contract is on decline and Mavs desperately need someone like him to provide scoring. Bullock has been a major factor on defense and offense in playoffs, they need him.. Powell and Bertans are absolutely horrible value, Dinwiddie is also someone who would get paid same amount after what he showed in playoffs.

But that's not Nico's fault anyway... We don't know what goes on behind closed doors but unless trades happen and teams are willing to take on some of these contracts, Mavs can't do anything significant because Donnie messed them up.

Don't forget they did a great job turning completely non factor players into Wood, then they upgraded center position and if Dragic signs, it's at least a good start. They can still make some trades though, so we'll see what happens next.

[Apz]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

Roster for 160 mio+ is honestly disastrous. Luka is making it passable, but having mostly players that other teams dumped or were undrafted is just weird.

Team made the wcf. Must be such a horrible TEAM. And considering the crapshoot the draft is, and never having any top top picks, is it really weird? Better to sign good players thag been undrafted then sign players cause they were drafted high or were good 5 years ago like some teams.

[Darren]

I think the hard cap is the real problem. This creates big differences between top teams with the rest. Overpaying doesn't help. Top teams get two-way players taking less.

[Bob8]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

Roster for 160 mio+ is honestly disastrous. Luka is making it passable, but having mostly players that other teams dumped or were undrafted is just weird.

Team made the wcf. Must be such a horrible TEAM. And considering the crapshoot the draft is, and never having any top top picks, is it really weird? Better to sign good players thag been undrafted then sign players cause they were drafted high or were good 5 years ago like some teams.

You missed the essential part, roster for 160+ mio. Hard cap. For this?

We lost second best player this year, I doubt very much they would have been in WCF without Brunson. KP brought something in first part of the season too. And we should be honest, West was bad last year. This year it will be very different story.

[deb]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

Roster for 160 mio+ is honestly disastrous. Luka is making it passable, but having mostly players that other teams dumped or were undrafted is just weird.

Well yeah, but what else can they do other than wait for these contracts to expire? THJ's contract is on decline and Mavs desperately need someone like him to provide scoring. Bullock has been a major factor on defense and offense in playoffs, they need him.. Powell and Bertans are absolutely horrible value, Dinwiddie is also someone who would get paid same amount after what he showed in playoffs.

But that's not Nico's fault anyway... We don't know what goes on behind closed doors but unless trades happen and teams are willing to take on some of these contracts, Mavs can't do anything significant because Donnie messed them up.

Don't forget they did a great job turning completely non factor players into Wood, then they upgraded center position and if Dragic signs, it's at least a good start. They can still make some trades though, so we'll see what happens next.

Upgraded at center? At what cost? McGee made combined 20 million dollars over the last eight seasons and he'll now make as much money in three years. To top it off there's a player option at the end. So that he can opt in and then proceed to be wheeled out on a wheelchair for games at age 38. A center that relies heavily on athleticism.

The most he's averaged over the last 10 seasons is 22 mpg, and his minutes always fall in the playoffs. And the mavs told him he'll be a starter? He's a 15 min per game guy in the regular season and limited minutes player in the PO's. And they blew the entire MLE on him.

Using Wood as a pf and combining him with a traditional center in today's nba smells of total disaster to me.

Which wing will they get now? With what money? If there isn't a trade to bring a competent wing back and they just end up signing Dragić and calling it an offseason, I swear I'll start a petition to get Donnie back. Really horrible offseason so far.

[Bob8]

I honestly don't think it's been that bad. Losing Brunson for nothing when they could have had him for cheap is obviously a huge mistake. But at the end Jalen wanted to be in NY and some also think he's prime Lebron.

Other than that, McGee and Wood are a huge upgrades over anyone Mavs had on center position over the past few years (always injured KP included). If Nico can somehow sign Dragic now, Mavs are going to be in a decent spot. Can't do much if Donnie caps your budget for the next 4-5 years.

Also don't forget they re-signed DFS for dirt cheap. That was huge for them.

Roster for 160 mio+ is honestly disastrous. Luka is making it passable, but having mostly players that other teams dumped or were undrafted is just weird.

Well yeah, but what else can they do other than wait for these contracts to expire? THJ's contract is on decline and Mavs desperately need someone like him to provide scoring. Bullock has been a major factor on defense and offense in playoffs, they need him.. Powell and Bertans are absolutely horrible value, Dinwiddie is also someone who would get paid same amount after what he showed in playoffs.

But that's not Nico's fault anyway... We don't know what goes on behind closed doors but unless trades happen and teams are willing to take on some of these contracts, Mavs can't do anything significant because Donnie messed them up.

Don't forget they did a great job turning completely non factor players into Wood, then they upgraded center position and if Dragic signs, it's at least a good start. They can still make some trades though, so we'll see what happens next.

Tell me a team without cap space and next year's first round pick and having worse roster outside of the best player?

[Archx]

Roster for 160 mio+ is honestly disastrous. Luka is making it passable, but having mostly players that other teams dumped or were undrafted is just weird.

Well yeah, but what else can they do other than wait for these contracts to expire? THJ's contract is on decline and Mavs desperately need someone like him to provide scoring. Bullock has been a major factor on defense and offense in playoffs, they need him.. Powell and Bertans are absolutely horrible value, Dinwiddie is also someone who would get paid same amount after what he showed in playoffs.

But that's not Nico's fault anyway... We don't know what goes on behind closed doors but unless trades happen and teams are willing to take on some of these contracts, Mavs can't do anything significant because Donnie messed them up.

Don't forget they did a great job turning completely non factor players into Wood, then they upgraded center position and if Dragic signs, it's at least a good start. They can still make some trades though, so we'll see what happens next.

Upgraded at center? At what cost? McGee made combined 20 million dollars over the last eight seasons and he'll now make as much money in three years. To top it off there's a player option at the end. So that he can opt in and then proceed to be wheeled out on a wheelchair for games at age 38. A center that relies heavily on athleticism.

The most he's averaged over the last 10 seasons is 22 mpg, and his minutes always fall in the playoffs. And the mavs told him he'll be a starter? He's a 15 min per game guy in the regular season and limited minutes player in the PO's. And they blew the entire MLE on him.

Using Wood as a pf and combining him with a traditional center in today's nba smells of total disaster to me.

Which wing will they get now? With what money? If there isn't a trade to bring a competent wing back and they just end up signing Dragić and calling it an offseason, I swear I'll start a petition to get Donnie back somwhere. Really horrible offseason so far.

Well yeah, it's horrible if you're playing NBA2K but in the real world where cap is going UP and huge contracts are being dealt it's a bit different. In 2 years McGee's contract might look like a bargain. Also keep in mind, Mavs were bidding against Bucks, Nets and PHX. If there was other option i'm 100% sure Nico wouldn't give this contract to McGee.

Also, rotations are fluid you can't just say Wood and McGee is set in stone. There is also Maxi that you can pair with anyone basically at any given time.

I mentioned before and i'll say it again. Donnie screwed up the cap with his trades and giving horrible contracts to Powell and KP. THJ and Bullocks contract might look bad on paper but in reality they would get same amount somewhere else. Bertans is also a huge problem but that's not Nico's fault. Apparently no one else wanted KP and they had to do it. Brunson situation was bad but he's more than replacable, specially on that 27M offer.

Tell me a team without cap space and next year's first round pick and having worse roster outside of the best player?

Again, critizing is easy but what is your solution? You said yourself 100 times by now, Donnie screwed them up with bad contracts. How can they solve this in one off season? This isn't a game, this is a real bussiness and we don't have a close insight into what's being said behind closed doors. How can Nico solve this mess in few weeks?

[daoneandonly]

You cant really scream this loud when just a couple of days ago you proposed Dallas trade for Lowry and Duncan Robinson

[Bob8]

Well yeah, but what else can they do other than wait for these contracts to expire? THJ's contract is on decline and Mavs desperately need someone like him to provide scoring. Bullock has been a major factor on defense and offense in playoffs, they need him.. Powell and Bertans are absolutely horrible value, Dinwiddie is also someone who would get paid same amount after what he showed in playoffs.

But that's not Nico's fault anyway... We don't know what goes on behind closed doors but unless trades happen and teams are willing to take on some of these contracts, Mavs can't do anything significant because Donnie messed them up.

Don't forget they did a great job turning completely non factor players into Wood, then they upgraded center position and if Dragic signs, it's at least a good start. They can still make some trades though, so we'll see what happens next.

Upgraded at center? At what cost? McGee made combined 20 million dollars over the last eight seasons and he'll now make as much money in three years. To top it off there's a player option at the end. So that he can opt in and then proceed to be wheeled out on a wheelchair for games at age 38. A center that relies heavily on athleticism.

The most he's averaged over the last 10 seasons is 22 mpg, and his minutes always fall in the playoffs. And the mavs told him he'll be a starter? He's a 15 min per game guy in the regular season and limited minutes player in the PO's. And they blew the entire MLE on him.

Using Wood as a pf and combining him with a traditional center in today's nba smells of total disaster to me.

Which wing will they get now? With what money? If there isn't a trade to bring a competent wing back and they just end up signing Dragić and calling it an offseason, I swear I'll start a petition to get Donnie back somwhere. Really horrible offseason so far.

Well yeah, it's horrible if you're playing NBA2K but in the real world where cap is going UP and huge contracts are being dealt it's a bit different. In 2 years McGee's contract might look like a bargain. Also keep in mind, Mavs were bidding against Bucks, Nets and PHX. If there was other option i'm 100% sure Nico wouldn't give this contract to McGee.

Also, rotations are fluid you can't just say Wood and McGee is set in stone. There is also Maxi that you can pair with anyone basically at any given time.

I mentioned before and i'll say it again. Donnie screwed up the cap with his trades and giving horrible contracts to Powell and KP. THJ and Bullocks contract might look bad on paper but in reality they would get same amount somewhere else. Bertans is also a huge problem but that's not Nico's fault. Apparently no one else wanted KP and they had to do it. Brunson situation was bad but he's more than replacable, specially on that 27M offer.

Tell me a team without cap space and next year's first round pick and having worse roster outside of the best player?

Again, critizing is easy but what is your solution? You said yourself 100 times by now, Donnie screwed them up with bad contracts. How can they solve this in one off season? This isn't a game, this is a real bussiness and we don't have a close insight into what's being said behind closed doors. How can Nico solve this mess in few weeks?

Donnie didn't **** Brunson's signing. The only valuable asset Mavs had.

[Archx]

Donnie didn't **** Brunson's signing. The only valuable asset Mavs had.

That is true, i don't know what the hell were they thinking but it's still not the end of the world.