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CelticsPride18 wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:CelticsPride18 wrote:
I think we are getting TJ. I think we don’t want to go 2 years for Gallo
Warren might be gettable as he recovers from his injury and rebuilds his value. But has he been linked to us? Is the interest mutual?
Jake Fischer said he’s on our short list. He was linked to Wizards and Lakers but both have used the MLE.
CelticsPride18 wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:CelticsPride18 wrote:
I think we are getting TJ. I think we don’t want to go 2 years for Gallo
Warren might be gettable as he recovers from his injury and rebuilds his value. But has he been linked to us? Is the interest mutual?
Jake Fischer said he’s on our short list. He was linked to Wizards and Lakers but both have used the MLE.
chrisab123 wrote:I don't see how people can say this team isn't a contender or isn't close. I'm pessimistic as all hell but any team that made the finals by default should enter the season no worse than 2nd in the odds unless something ridiculous happens in the offseason.
KD going to form yet another super team would screw things up. Jaylen wanting out would mess things up to but right now get some veterans on the bench and let it play out
zoyathedestroya wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:If they sign Gallo, then using the TPE on guys like Marcus Morris or Kuzma is unlikely.
Can see Stevens bringing back Josh Richardson and his expiring contract that could be used later in a deal.
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Let's hope whoever this is is right. He was the one who broke that the Warriors were pre-planning their title celebration at Encore
31to6 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:If they sign Gallo, then using the TPE on guys like Marcus Morris or Kuzma is unlikely.
Can see Stevens bringing back Josh Richardson and his expiring contract that could be used later in a deal.
Agreed — I really hope to see the Celtics bring in both a 2/3 and a 3/4. Gallinari would be the latter — Josh would be great for the former!
brackdan70 wrote:The Italian Durrant….it’s happening?
CelticsPride18 wrote:brackdan70 wrote:The Italian Durrant….it’s happening?
They brought Gigi Datome to the meeting to seal the deal.
themoneyteam2 wrote:celtics543 wrote:Here's my take on the KD potential. (For the record, I don't think we get him regardless).
Right now are we good enough to win the title? This past season would say that we are but we did get pretty fortuitous to win two game 7's, one on the road, have Middleton miss the Bucks series, have Herro miss multiple games in the Heat series, and have relatively good health for our entire run. Our own good health was an anomaly based on previous years.
I keep reading this Jaylen/Jayson 10 year window stuff but how often has that actually come to fruition for any team? I can think of the Warriors right now but really no one else. If you trade Jaylen for KD then you're better right now, I don't think that can be disputed. KD is a better player than Jaylen Brown. Trading picks shouldn't matter because this trade is to go all in, so losing #30 picks for a couple years is what it is and even when Durant winds down you still have Tatum so we'll never be tanking hopefully.
The point is to win the title and this trade would make us the favorite to win the title. We haven't been the preseason favorite since KG was lacing them up and I know that was a long time ago but maybe you've forgotten how much fun that is. To have the best team and win a ton of games en route to the championship. The question we have to ask is do we have the next Jordan/Pippen with Tatum and Brown or the next Paul George/Danny Granger? Nothing is guaranteed.
I think this trade is very similar to Al Jefferson for KG in 2007. I was on the "keep Al" bandwagon because I thought he could grow with the team and trading a young 20/10 big guy seemed like a bad idea. Obviously I was wrong. This is the same thing. KD is a superstar. Jaylen is better than Big Al but you need let an All Star stand in the way of trading for a superstar.
I ain’t reading all that. I’m happy for you though. Or sorry it happened
CelticFaninLBC wrote:celtics543 wrote:Here's my take on the KD potential. (For the record, I don't think we get him regardless).
Right now are we good enough to win the title? This past season would say that we are but we did get pretty fortuitous to win two game 7's, one on the road, have Middleton miss the Bucks series, have Herro miss multiple games in the Heat series, and have relatively good health for our entire run. Our own good health was an anomaly based on previous years.
I keep reading this Jaylen/Jayson 10 year window stuff but how often has that actually come to fruition for any team? I can think of the Warriors right now but really no one else. If you trade Jaylen for KD then you're better right now, I don't think that can be disputed. KD is a better player than Jaylen Brown. Trading picks shouldn't matter because this trade is to go all in, so losing #30 picks for a couple years is what it is and even when Durant winds down you still have Tatum so we'll never be tanking hopefully.
The point is to win the title and this trade would make us the favorite to win the title. We haven't been the preseason favorite since KG was lacing them up and I know that was a long time ago but maybe you've forgotten how much fun that is. To have the best team and win a ton of games en route to the championship. The question we have to ask is do we have the next Jordan/Pippen with Tatum and Brown or the next Paul George/Danny Granger? Nothing is guaranteed.
I think this trade is very similar to Al Jefferson for KG in 2007. I was on the "keep Al" bandwagon because I thought he could grow with the team and trading a young 20/10 big guy seemed like a bad idea. Obviously I was wrong. This is the same thing. KD is a superstar. Jaylen is better than Big Al but you need let an All Star stand in the way of trading for a superstar.
Regarding long-term duos and trios, Duncan, Parker and Ginobilli were together from 2002-2016. Shaq and Kobe from 1996-2004. Jordan and Pippen 1987-1998. Bird, McHale and Parish 1981-1992.
If Tatum, Brown and Rob Williams continue to improve, Rob stays healthy and ownership pays the luxury tax, they can win a few rings over the next 8-10 years.
celtics543 wrote:themoneyteam2 wrote:celtics543 wrote:Here's my take on the KD potential. (For the record, I don't think we get him regardless).
Right now are we good enough to win the title? This past season would say that we are but we did get pretty fortuitous to win two game 7's, one on the road, have Middleton miss the Bucks series, have Herro miss multiple games in the Heat series, and have relatively good health for our entire run. Our own good health was an anomaly based on previous years.
I keep reading this Jaylen/Jayson 10 year window stuff but how often has that actually come to fruition for any team? I can think of the Warriors right now but really no one else. If you trade Jaylen for KD then you're better right now, I don't think that can be disputed. KD is a better player than Jaylen Brown. Trading picks shouldn't matter because this trade is to go all in, so losing #30 picks for a couple years is what it is and even when Durant winds down you still have Tatum so we'll never be tanking hopefully.
The point is to win the title and this trade would make us the favorite to win the title. We haven't been the preseason favorite since KG was lacing them up and I know that was a long time ago but maybe you've forgotten how much fun that is. To have the best team and win a ton of games en route to the championship. The question we have to ask is do we have the next Jordan/Pippen with Tatum and Brown or the next Paul George/Danny Granger? Nothing is guaranteed.
I think this trade is very similar to Al Jefferson for KG in 2007. I was on the "keep Al" bandwagon because I thought he could grow with the team and trading a young 20/10 big guy seemed like a bad idea. Obviously I was wrong. This is the same thing. KD is a superstar. Jaylen is better than Big Al but you need let an All Star stand in the way of trading for a superstar.
I ain’t reading all that. I’m happy for you though. Or sorry it happened
I hope to someday be as cool as you.
celtics543 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:celtics543 wrote:Here's my take on the KD potential. (For the record, I don't think we get him regardless).
Right now are we good enough to win the title? This past season would say that we are but we did get pretty fortuitous to win two game 7's, one on the road, have Middleton miss the Bucks series, have Herro miss multiple games in the Heat series, and have relatively good health for our entire run. Our own good health was an anomaly based on previous years.
I keep reading this Jaylen/Jayson 10 year window stuff but how often has that actually come to fruition for any team? I can think of the Warriors right now but really no one else. If you trade Jaylen for KD then you're better right now, I don't think that can be disputed. KD is a better player than Jaylen Brown. Trading picks shouldn't matter because this trade is to go all in, so losing #30 picks for a couple years is what it is and even when Durant winds down you still have Tatum so we'll never be tanking hopefully.
The point is to win the title and this trade would make us the favorite to win the title. We haven't been the preseason favorite since KG was lacing them up and I know that was a long time ago but maybe you've forgotten how much fun that is. To have the best team and win a ton of games en route to the championship. The question we have to ask is do we have the next Jordan/Pippen with Tatum and Brown or the next Paul George/Danny Granger? Nothing is guaranteed.
I think this trade is very similar to Al Jefferson for KG in 2007. I was on the "keep Al" bandwagon because I thought he could grow with the team and trading a young 20/10 big guy seemed like a bad idea. Obviously I was wrong. This is the same thing. KD is a superstar. Jaylen is better than Big Al but you need let an All Star stand in the way of trading for a superstar.
Regarding long-term duos and trios, Duncan, Parker and Ginobilli were together from 2002-2016. Shaq and Kobe from 1996-2004. Jordan and Pippen 1987-1998. Bird, McHale and Parish 1981-1992.
If Tatum, Brown and Rob Williams continue to improve, Rob stays healthy and ownership pays the luxury tax, they can win a few rings over the next 8-10 years.
I just don’t think Tatum, brown, and Rob are at that level of talent. None of them are Duncan, Jordan, Bird, or Shaq/Kobe.
zoyathedestroya wrote: