Welcome Caleb Houstan!

[zaymon]

Agree... weren't we all screaming about a 3pt shooter? Well Caleb is/was known for it. So.give him a chance to see if he lives up to it. A high-end 3&D is the highest expectation we have of him.

If the kid made 8 more 3s on the season.... he would be 40%+ 3 pnt shooter and possibly a first round nod.... 8 3pnters. If that's the difference between being a "meh" player... and "OMG he's got potential".... i'll take the Magic's decision any day and run with it.

It's bit of a moot point, if he made 8 less he would shot 30% for 3 and 35% overall.
Let's not overthink this, kid had very poor college season and he probably should have stayed for another year. He didn't want to gamble on himself and he was told by his family, agent or made decision by himself to enter draft.

He was 8th in ESPN's top recruits. It's good thing to have, but doesn't mean all that much knowing RJ Hampton was 5th and boy is playing himself out of nba.


He will spend year in G league. And that's pretty much given. Is that best career path for him? I would say no. Imo he should have stayed one year at college, because we see trend of sophmores being drafted high year after mediocre or flat out bad freshmen seasons. I don't think player can learn a lot about basketball in G league. That's why nobody actually "develops" in developmental league. That's why Bol Bol looked the same in nba each and every year.

Siakam, Vanvleet, Whiteside, Wood, Dinwiddie,Vincent, Robinson, House, Brissett, Payton II, Curry.

[drsd]

35th "trade" is hard to even call trade, they just moved it to not bother with it, for literally nothing

Sure, but the Magic was never, ever going to bring in three rookies this season.

What is odd for me is why management doesn't just draft wünderkinds simply to have their Euro-rights locked in. That would be better asset management, as draft-rights are a tradeable commodity, and the Magic could own those for years rather than the one-offs of these 2nd-rounders. This year that could have been at #35: Gabriele Procida, Ismael Kamagate, or Matteo Spagnolo. For example.


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[zaymon]

35th "trade" is hard to even call trade, they just moved it to not bother with it, for literally nothing

Sure, but the Magic was never, ever going to bring in three rookies this season.

What is odd for me is why management doesn't just draft wünderkinds simply to have their Euro-rights locked in. That would be better asset management, as draft-rights are a tradeable commodity, and the Magic could own those for years rather than the one-offs of these 2nd-rounders. This year that could have been at #35: Gabriele Procida, Ismael Kamagate, or Matteo Spagnolo. For example.


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They certainly thought about it and decided future 2nd round pick is a better asset. Lakers could be a real mess by 2028. Stashed player has certainly less value, you dont see those traded often. They also have their plans, their agents and draft picks dont.
I would be upset if we traded 32 and guy we wanted was gone by 35, but by trading 35 we had no risk attached. If we wanted to trade up we still had a lot of assets becouse we trade picks into the future, #35 doesnt change this at all.

[RookieStar]

35th "trade" is hard to even call trade, they just moved it to not bother with it, for literally nothing

Sure, but the Magic was never, ever going to bring in three rookies this season.

What is odd for me is why management doesn't just draft wünderkinds simply to have their Euro-rights locked in. That would be better asset management, as draft-rights are a tradeable commodity, and the Magic could own those for years rather than the one-offs of these 2nd-rounders. This year that could have been at #35: Gabriele Procida, Ismael Kamagate, or Matteo Spagnolo. For example.


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They certainly thought about it and decided future 2nd round pick is a better asset. Lakers could be a real mess by 2028. Stashed player has certainly less value, you dont see those traded often. They also have their plans, their agents and draft picks dont.
I would be upset if we traded 32 and guy we wanted was gone by 35, but by trading 35 we had no risk attached. If we wanted to trade up we still had a lot of assets becouse we trade picks into the future, #35 doesnt change this at all.

I agree. Using it for a draft and stash and the player never comes over is just wasting those 2nd rounders. I mean if you guys remember we used to have a lot of Euro sounding names we used our 2nds on and they never came over cuz primarily, the longer they played in Euroleague, the more we found out they sucked (lol).

Better this way we got cash and we punted the pick.

[pepe1991]

cash considirations are most of the time... usless.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/09/cash-sent-received-in-nba-trades-for-2021-22.html

Orlando Magic
Cash available to send: $5,785,000
Cash available to receive: $0
Received $3,635,000 from Celtics.
Received $2,150,000 from Lakers.

Magic can only leveradge this if they are buying somebody in trade

[Skybox]

I have no problem with this pick. We need shooting and we have maybe too much of everything else (potentially). Houstan had a disappointing season at Michigan after being a highly touted recruit...this is exactly the kind of swing I like with a 2rp. He might be Doug McDermott and have a long career based on his purported strength or he might be out of the league quickly.

[Ducklett]

Out of those 10 do you have confidence that they could even hit on one of them? I don't.

More than likely they will become cash considerations or nobodies.

What does hitting on them have to do with anything? If the teams ahead of us were willing to trade, the Magic have tons of 2nds to move up with. I think it is more likely than not that teams ahead of us wanted the players they picked. 35 ain't changing their mind.

No you can't assume that. Are the future seconds as high as 35?

The fact they traded it before even seeing how the draft unfolded is just incompetent.

29 moved up to 26 for 2 seconds. You would be asking us to move up that much for 1 second (35). It just isn't happening. Sorry.

[jezzerinho]

35th "trade" is hard to even call trade, they just moved it to not bother with it, for literally nothing

Sure, but the Magic was never, ever going to bring in three rookies this season.

What is odd for me is why management doesn't just draft wünderkinds simply to have their Euro-rights locked in. That would be better asset management, as draft-rights are a tradeable commodity, and the Magic could own those for years rather than the one-offs of these 2nd-rounders. This year that could have been at #35: Gabriele Procida, Ismael Kamagate, or Matteo Spagnolo. For example.


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Absolutely

[jezzerinho]

Sure, but the Magic was never, ever going to bring in three rookies this season.

What is odd for me is why management doesn't just draft wünderkinds simply to have their Euro-rights locked in. That would be better asset management, as draft-rights are a tradeable commodity, and the Magic could own those for years rather than the one-offs of these 2nd-rounders. This year that could have been at #35: Gabriele Procida, Ismael Kamagate, or Matteo Spagnolo. For example.


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They certainly thought about it and decided future 2nd round pick is a better asset. Lakers could be a real mess by 2028. Stashed player has certainly less value, you dont see those traded often. They also have their plans, their agents and draft picks dont.
I would be upset if we traded 32 and guy we wanted was gone by 35, but by trading 35 we had no risk attached. If we wanted to trade up we still had a lot of assets becouse we trade picks into the future, #35 doesnt change this at all.

I agree. Using it for a draft and stash and the player never comes over is just wasting those 2nd rounders. I mean if you guys remember we used to have a lot of Euro sounding names we used our 2nds on and they never came over cuz primarily, the longer they played in Euroleague, the more we found out they sucked (lol).

Better this way we got cash and we punted the pick.

Yeah, European players suck.

[yoyojw17]

Agree... weren't we all screaming about a 3pt shooter? Well Caleb is/was known for it. So.give him a chance to see if he lives up to it. A high-end 3&D is the highest expectation we have of him.

If the kid made 8 more 3s on the season.... he would be 40%+ 3 pnt shooter and possibly a first round nod.... 8 3pnters. If that's the difference between being a "meh" player... and "OMG he's got potential".... i'll take the Magic's decision any day and run with it.

That is exactly what is happening. Blind faith.

We have the worst shooting backcourt in the league and this guy won't even get a look. Guaranteed.

No... like everyone else they are interested in in the draft... they've done their research. He was a top 10 freshmen... coming into college and didn't blow up immediately .... but was still given the starting roll on a D1 team and player 32 min a night... shooting just above 35% on 169 shots.

and you're going to come in and make a blanketed statement, why? because you feel like it.... and you didn't like what you saw in the numbers and 8 min of youtube. sound more like "blind judgment" on your part. If anything... I will stand by and believe that WeHam would be just as meticulous with the selection as any other.... and not just have... "Blind faith".

Now... is there a guarantee that he will be that guy... nope... and in that case.... it is what it is... and move on.

[KillMonger]

5 star recruit, dropped because he had a down year but I think it was just due to him adjusting to the higher level.....it's going to be yet another adjustment period.....but gladly we have a resource we can use in Lakeland where he can get a lot of playing time and reps to help speed up the adjustment....either way it's a really good value pick....19 years old, quite a bit of untapped potential...I just hope we don't screw up development

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[jezzerinho]

5 star recruit, dropped because he had a down year but I think it was just due to him adjusting to the higher level.....it's going to be yet another adjustment period.....but gladly we have a resource we can use in Lakeland where he can get a lot of playing time and reps to help speed up the adjustment....either way it's a really good value pick....19 years old, quite a bit of untapped potential...I just hope we don't screw up development

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I don't see anything in this kid that is better than what someone like Procida can produce. Maybe you can bulk him up and make him a Grant Williams type who can bang around a bit. But the athlete is marginal and the handle is rudimentary. He seems relatively smart tho.

[drsd]

cash considirations are most of the time... usless.

Dude: not to ownership.

This is a business and 500k here and 1m there is hard-currency profits.

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[MartinsIzAfraud]

Houston to G league or a 2 way deal with the Bol Bol news

[Nyce_1]

Houston to G league or a 2 way deal with the Bol Bol news

Unless Cannady is moved to 2-way or a player is moved. We'll see.

[fendilim]

I think cannady is cut and caleb as stash

[jonbob17]

Last year the earliest 2nd round pick to accept a 2-way was pick #39. If we made Houstan a promise, like many have suggested, it's hard to believe it would be on a 2 way. For reference last year pick #32 signed a 4/$8M, with 2 years guaranteed

[drsd]

I think cannady is cut and caleb as stash

I cannot recall a team that went with just two PGs in its roster.

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[Nyce_1]

I think cannady is cut and caleb as stash

I cannot recall a team that went with just two PGs in its roster.

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Good thing we have 3.

[fendilim]

I think cannady is cut and caleb as stash

I cannot recall a team that went with just two PGs in its roster.

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Yeah. Never seen a team with 4 either