100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Still much rather Warren over Bryant if possible.

**side note, If Galo gets reasonable amount of minutes, it spells a much less impact for Grant Williams. Neiter are a center or SF and there are only so many backup minutes at PF.

just a thought.

MLE went to Gallo. So I don't think Warren is possible. It'd have to be on the minimum which is not realistic.

then how is it possible to sign Bryant??

Because he doesn't have a market. Coming off injury, actually played for Washington last year (I didn't know that) and was mediocre, his three point shot abandoned him after the layoff (shot 28 percent).

[poopship]

Still much rather Warren over Bryant if possible.

**side note, If Galo gets reasonable amount of minutes, it spells a much less impact for Grant Williams. Neiter are a center or SF and there are only so many backup minutes at PF.

just a thought.

MLE went to Gallo. So I don't think Warren is possible. It'd have to be on the minimum which is not realistic.

then how is it possible to sign Bryant??

Bryant is not close to being a TP-MLE type player IMO. I assume people think he might be gettable on the minimum.

[Hal14]

To anyone saying Gallo is a defensive liability.....

We had 6 dudes on our team last year who got votes for all-defense. No other team in the league had more than 2.

Grant williams was not one of them and he absolutely performed at a borderline all-defense level in the playoffs.

In other words we have SEVEN dudes on this team who are all-defense caliber players.

We can afford to have a guy who is not so great on D but who is really good on offense, who is 6'10" and only making $6 mil a year.

[Celts17Pride]

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[zoyathedestroya]

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Learned nothing new here. How about salary-matching?

[hugepatsfan]

Wouldn't be a TPE deal, but I'd love Theis/Nesmith/Pritchard/Morgan/2023 1st to BRK for Joe Harris if they start selling pieces.

Smart / White
Brown / Harris
Tatum
Horford / GWilliams / Gallo
R Williams

Sign me up with that as a playoff rotation. Gallo and Harris would be HUGE as floor spacers. Sign Thomas Bryant as a backup center for regular season minutes and try to find decent vet min backups at PG and on the wing too.

2 young players Nee and PP AND a first?? Hell no.. take away the first then..

Nesmith has no trade value because he arguably isn't even good enough to be on a roster. PP is a marginal rotation player without much/any trade value. Theis is a bit overpaid on a 2 year term. The 1st is definitely needed here.

I think you could maybe negotiate Pritchard out of the deal with some nothing filler like Stauskas instead. He's of such marginal value to BRK that it likely doesn't move the needle much to them, but for us we could still use that marginal value he brings.

[hugepatsfan]

To anyone saying Gallo is a defensive liability.....

We had 6 dudes on our team last year who got votes for all-defense. No other team in the league had more than 2.

Grant williams was not one of them and he absolutely performed at a borderline all-defense level in the playoffs.

In other words we have SEVEN dudes on this team who are all-defense caliber players.

We can afford to have a guy who is not so great on D but who is really good on offense, who is 6'10" and only making $6 mil a year.

We should sticky this at the top of the thread lol

[GotDaSauce]

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Learned nothing new here. How about salary-matching?

Such a waste of a tweet! No **** it would require a bunch of 1st round picks!

[zoyathedestroya]

Danilo in the gym...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfeLa3aoTjn/

[Shamrock]

Don’t really care for Bryant tbh. Would be ecstatic if we can add another shooter to this team. On the Durant front, JB is realistically the best piece the Nets could get on a team where Durant will actually be okay with playing on

[cl2117]

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One thing to note with betting lines on things like this is that you've got to factor into the figures the sportsbooks balancing their position. It can actually shift things pretty significantly as they can't be overexposed, especially on things that are even more subjective than normal, and it usually can account for the differences across books in terms of odds.

I used to work for a sports data/trading company and you've got an entire division dedicated to "risk services" that help put their thumb on the scale to avoid massive losses if things swing an unexpected way.

So unless he is dealt to PHX very shortly, that's what this is.

[Hal14]

To anyone saying Gallo is a defensive liability.....

We had 6 dudes on our team last year who got votes for all-defense. No other team in the league had more than 2.

Grant williams was not one of them and he absolutely performed at a borderline all-defense level in the playoffs.

In other words we have SEVEN dudes on this team who are all-defense caliber players.

We can afford to have a guy who is not so great on D but who is really good on offense, who is 6'10" and only making $6 mil a year.

We should sticky this at the top of the thread lol

haha thanks man

[Celts17Pride]

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One thing to note with betting lines on things like this is that you've got to factor into the figures the sportsbooks balancing their position. It can actually shift things pretty significantly as they can't be overexposed, especially on things that are even more subjective than normal, and it usually can account for the differences across books in terms of odds.

I used to work for a sports data/trading company and you've got an entire division dedicated to "risk services" that help put their thumb on the scale to avoid massive losses if things swing an unexpected way.

So unless he is dealt to PHX very shortly, that's what this is.

Betting lines change all the time. This is what it is right now.

[hugepatsfan]

MLE went to Gallo. So I don't think Warren is possible. It'd have to be on the minimum which is not realistic.

then how is it possible to sign Bryant??

Because he doesn't have a market. Coming off injury, actually played for Washington last year (I didn't know that) and was mediocre, his three point shot abandoned him after the layoff (shot 28 percent).

I don't think his shot abandoned him. He only took 42 3 pointers the whole season. It's just a sample size issue. He was 12-42, if he goes 15-42 then he's right back at 36%. On that limited volume, the shooting percentage is so flaky and easily swung.

That being said, low volume is part of the package with him as a "shooter". Over his last 4 seasons he's attempted 1.6 threes per game and made 0.6. He's really not a "shooter" or a "floor spacer". Defenses aren't going to respect his shot. They leave him open and a couple of times a game he pulls the triggers. And every other game he actually makes one. It's a nice percentage to see on paper, but it really isn't that impactful or meaningful as things stand right now.

The encouraging part though is that it shows potential for growth. If he can start shooting them at a higher volume and maintain good percentage, then it becomes something that helps you.

[playa-hater]

Wouldn't be a TPE deal, but I'd love Theis/Nesmith/Pritchard/Morgan/2023 1st to BRK for Joe Harris if they start selling pieces.

Smart / White
Brown / Harris
Tatum
Horford / GWilliams / Gallo
R Williams

Sign me up with that as a playoff rotation. Gallo and Harris would be HUGE as floor spacers. Sign Thomas Bryant as a backup center for regular season minutes and try to find decent vet min backups at PG and on the wing too.

2 young players Nee and PP AND a first?? Hell no.. take away the first then..

Nesmith has no trade value because he arguably isn't even good enough to be on a roster. PP is a marginal rotation player without much/any trade value. Theis is a bit overpaid on a 2 year term. The 1st is definitely needed here.

I think you could maybe negotiate Pritchard out of the deal with some nothing filler like Stauskas instead. He's of such marginal value to BRK that it likely doesn't move the needle much to them, but for us we could still use that marginal value he brings.

OK Nee having "no trade value" Right now, is reasonable. But not being good enough for this Roster is a stretch.. considering who we have behind him. Nee Or PP not both.. and I would rather use our 1st next year on someone else TBH.

I'll give names later.. I am running out the door.

[hugepatsfan]

2 young players Nee and PP AND a first?? Hell no.. take away the first then..

Nesmith has no trade value because he arguably isn't even good enough to be on a roster. PP is a marginal rotation player without much/any trade value. Theis is a bit overpaid on a 2 year term. The 1st is definitely needed here.

I think you could maybe negotiate Pritchard out of the deal with some nothing filler like Stauskas instead. He's of such marginal value to BRK that it likely doesn't move the needle much to them, but for us we could still use that marginal value he brings.

OK Nee having "no trade value" Right now, is reasonable. But not being good enough for this Roster is a stretch.. considering who we have behind him. Nee Or PP not both.. and I would rather use our 1st next year on someone else TBH.

I'll give names later.. I am running out the door.

Our roster is a bad example to use. We punted on our last 4 roster spots last year with G-League caliber players on pro rated vet minimum deals so we could duck the tax.

If you ignore where Nesmith was drafted and his contract status and strictly judge him on his merits so far in the NBA, he's a training camp invite caliber of player that you bring to camp and let compete for a 13th-15th man spot on a roster. That's why I say arguably off an NBA roster.

[sam_I_am]

2 young players Nee and PP AND a first?? Hell no.. take away the first then..

Nesmith has no trade value because he arguably isn't even good enough to be on a roster. PP is a marginal rotation player without much/any trade value. Theis is a bit overpaid on a 2 year term. The 1st is definitely needed here.

I think you could maybe negotiate Pritchard out of the deal with some nothing filler like Stauskas instead. He's of such marginal value to BRK that it likely doesn't move the needle much to them, but for us we could still use that marginal value he brings.

OK Nee having "no trade value" Right now, is reasonable. But not being good enough for this Roster is a stretch.. considering who we have behind him. Nee Or PP not both.. and I would rather use our 1st next year on someone else TBH.

I'll give names later.. I am running out the door.

Nesmith being asked to play on SL roster year 3 is akin to team admitting he is in James Young, Yabs territory ie. in danger of not getting second NBA contract. I still see unique talent - a 3 pt specialist with plus rebounding and defensive/athletic ability. I have no doubt that some day he will be a useful NBA player but he might still be a few years away. Malik Monk is a guy that comes to mind as having that kind of career path.

[Scoonie]

Really surprising that Jalen Smith is still available.

[Andrew McCeltic]

then how is it possible to sign Bryant??

Because he doesn't have a market. Coming off injury, actually played for Washington last year (I didn't know that) and was mediocre, his three point shot abandoned him after the layoff (shot 28 percent).

I don't think his shot abandoned him. He only took 42 3 pointers the whole season. It's just a sample size issue. He was 12-42, if he goes 15-42 then he's right back at 36%. On that limited volume, the shooting percentage is so flaky and easily swung.

That being said, low volume is part of the package with him as a "shooter". Over his last 4 seasons he's attempted 1.6 threes per game and made 0.6. He's really not a "shooter" or a "floor spacer". Defenses aren't going to respect his shot. They leave him open and a couple of times a game he pulls the triggers. And every other game he actually makes one. It's a nice percentage to see on paper, but it really isn't that impactful or meaningful as things stand right now.

The encouraging part though is that it shows potential for growth. If he can start shooting them at a higher volume and maintain good percentage, then it becomes something that helps you.

What do you make of his defense?

[flintsky21]

Still much rather Warren over Bryant if possible.

**side note, If Galo gets reasonable amount of minutes, it spells a much less impact for Grant Williams. Neiter are a center or SF and there are only so many backup minutes at PF.

just a thought.

Yeah, interesting how they go about that. Grant at the 3 isn't ideal, but he can probably keep up with defending most perimeter wings, and at this point, even that may be a better option over playing Nesmith and all these 2-way and G-league guys at the 3.