Mavs fix rim protection need by signing JaVale McGee to 2 yr deal

41Dirk41 · Post #61 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 4:45 pm

Powell will take the Boban spot. No more.

SOUNDCHASER · Post #62 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 5:22 pm

worse case scenario Powell gets moved at the TDL so I doubt he gets stretch waved because of his expiring value so that would hopefully open up an opportunity to bring a rookie up to the varsity team from Frisco or get us some consideration like a pick or prospect.

as far as Bingham goes odds are against him getting a fair shot but these are his game by game stats https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/4397212

The way I look at it he was not given enough minutes to show what he could really do but in 18.7 minutes he gave his all and got 2.2 blocks per game. With more minutes he is getting 3 blocks easy and that is elite defensive effort right there guys.

He also hit on 41.5% of his 3 pointers so again for a 7' 5/4 that is elite and he only got 18.7 minutes to play per game so he was not being given free reign to do whatever he wanted.

Rebounding at 6.3 RPG in 18,7 minutes is right at the magic number of one rebound every 3 minutes which by the way neither Powell or Kleeber are capable of doing. Both are always getting outrebounded

Who else are you going to use to back up Wood and McGee at the 4/5? If your answer is Kleeber and Powell who are expiring then my next question is why?

Doing the same thing and expecting different results is what people call the definition of insanity.

It is way pass time to move on when you have a better alternative. This kid is a keeper and should transition nicely since he played 4 years in college.

Kleeber rpg rate was 5.9 and he scored 7 ppg with 24.6 Minutes / game 1BPG

Powell rpg rate was 4.9 and ppg was 8.7 in 21.9 minutes .05 BPG

Both get more minutes and score less points and they rebound and block less shots per game.

Bingham produced 9.3 PPG 2.2 BPG and 6.3 rpg in 18.7 minutes with a 41.5% for his 3 point shooting.

If he comes in and does similar numbers he is a better option and I would play him ahead of both Kleeber and Powell. If he improves because of playing with better players then he is a significant upgrade.

Numbers do not tell the whole story you really need to watch his videos to see what the guy can do his release is nice his shot blocking skill reminds me of Garnett who he is already taller than.

Guys the kid can play from what I see and his numbers show he can do it in limited minutes. If he was producing these numbers in more minutes then yes I would be worried but this indicates to me that he can do the job without having to play a lot of minutes to get his stats.

41Dirk41 · Post #63 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 5:26 pm

I like your optimist but Bingham is an undrafted kid, you can't compare his college stats with professional NBA player.

I don't even know he will never play 1 minutes in Mavs uniform. The odds are very low.

SOUNDCHASER · Post #64 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:27 pm

Have you watched any film of his?

I would encourage you to do so and in the summer league thread I posted a lot of youtube videos on page one of that thread for all the rookies that I felt would have a shot.

I think you will be impressed by watching the videos for Bingham.

I have high aspirations for all the bigs we take on and it seems that I am always getting disappointed but this kid seems to have that extra level of energy that most centers lack.

His motor and quickness looks to be very special and his shot blocking skill is as well. He seems to recover quickly and he has obviously been coached to defend at a higher level than most. Plus his defense is not all that is special about him. He has a 41.5% 3 point shot.

When you give rookies a shot it seems to me that the ones who do the best are the ones that excel on defense to force their way into the rotation and that is what I think will happen when he is trusted with some playing time.

Rookie learning and mistakes aside I think it boils down to repetition and the consistency you create by playing with discipline on defense. Proper technique is everything on defense and he seems to always be able to stop guys from getting to the rim while he is guarding someone else and at the last second he has to switch to impact the play with a defensive block or something similar.

Of course the videos are all highlights so who knows what he is doing out there in non highlight time.

41Dirk41 · Post #65 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:39 pm

I really hope you are right but i'm sorry, YouTube video means nothing.

Last year someone believed that Moses Brown was the new Shaq. Fail.

SOUNDCHASER · Post #66 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:43 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Marcus-Bingham-Jr/Summary/127261 well his per in college last season was at 29.11

SOUNDCHASER · Post #67 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:53 pm

Moses is still in the league in Cleveland, they gave him a roster spot if I am correct and his stats indicate he outperformed both Kleeber and Powell last season on a per minute basis.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/cle/cleveland-cavaliers

and he did that on a team with Mobley Markkanen Love and Jarret Allen playing ahead of him in the rotation. Kleeber and Powell got the bulk of our minutes at the 5.

SOUNDCHASER · Post #68 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:52 pm

Hearing that Utah is trading Gobert to Minn

41Dirk41 · Post #69 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:56 pm

Looney signed for the same money... OMG.

leolozon · Post #70 » by **leolozon** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 8:05 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Looney signed for the same money... OMG.

Yeah, 5m more over 3 years... This hurts.

Mavs one step forward, two steps backward. What a disappointing offseason. I didn't think the team could top last year.

GQ03 · Post #71 » by **GQ03** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 12:06 am

leolozon wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Looney signed for the same money... OMG.

Yeah, 5m more over 3 years... This hurts.

Mavs one step forward, two steps backward. What a disappointing offseason. I didn't think the team could top last year.

You guys really need to chill.

Looney was not going to leave GSW and come here for the same(or less) money. He's only played in GS and just win ANOTHER championship with them. Why would he leave that, especially for equal or less money??

leolozon · Post #72 » by **leolozon** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 12:16 am

GQ03 wrote:
leolozon wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Looney signed for the same money... OMG.

Yeah, 5m more over 3 years... This hurts.

Mavs one step forward, two steps backward. What a disappointing offseason. I didn't think the team could top last year.

You guys really need to chill.

Looney was not going to leave GSW and come here for the same(or less) money. He's only played in GS and just win ANOTHER championship with them. Why would he leave that, especially for equal or less money??

I know he wasn't. Value wise they still blow the Mavs out of the water. But that's the problem with having so much money in bad contracts, you can't get decent player at a reasonnable price. You keep paying for your past mistakes.

Darren · Post #73 » by **Darren** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 2:14 am

Looking at the Gobert trade, I think Utah get way too much. Minny gets the mismatch. But it is a dangerous experiment with a good chance to fail.

I wonder what Mitchell would think. But perhaps Mitchell teams up with Butler with Herro heading to Utah. Boston is also going crazy.

Maverick41 · Post #74 » by **Maverick41** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:24 am

I would take Jalen Smith or DDV at the 2 yrs/9mil contracts they took EASILY over McGee at 3yrs/20 mil.

Darren · Post #75 » by **Darren** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:51 am

I think DDV is underrated. But surely that's massive pay cut the Mavs won't get coz DDV can get the earnings back in a year like Porter or Payton does.

41Dirk41 · Post #76 » by **41Dirk41** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 6:54 am

GQ03 wrote:
leolozon wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Looney signed for the same money... OMG.

Yeah, 5m more over 3 years... This hurts.

Mavs one step forward, two steps backward. What a disappointing offseason. I didn't think the team could top last year.

You guys really need to chill.

Looney was not going to leave GSW and come here for the same(or less) money. He's only played in GS and just win ANOTHER championship with them. Why would he leave that, especially for equal or less money??

McGee is a vet min player. We overpaid him.

I don't know if nobody want to be here or Nico overrated players.

Maverick41 · Post #77 » by **Maverick41** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 11:26 am

Bruce Brown to Denver for 2 yrs/13 mil. AGAIN someone I'd easily take over McGee.

SOUNDCHASER · Post #78 » by **SOUNDCHASER** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 9:49 pm

you need real centers sometimes not all the time but at least enough to let the other team know you have one so they are scared and want to hide.

Maverick41 · Post #79 » by **Maverick41** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 2:29 am

So Biyombo, the guy that played over McGee in the playoffs, resigns with the Suns for the vet minimum. I take him at that contract especially over what we got with McGee.

Again, just terrible usage of the TMLE by Nico.

DreamTeam09 · Post #80 » by **DreamTeam09** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:43 am

Maverick41 wrote:So Biyombo, the guy that played over McGee in the playoffs, resigns with the Suns for the vet minimum. I take him at that contract especially over what we got with McGee.

Again, just terrible usage of the TMLE by Nico.

McGee is better than Bismack, Bismack didn't have multiple suitors like McGee. McGee is a great signing. He's one of the best lob threats in the league and solid screen setter for Luka, a great lob n PnR player.

Shores up our rim protection. McGee Woods Maxi will all avg a Blk a game next year.