2022-23 Regular Season

toooskies · Post #161 » by **toooskies** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 8:33 pm

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Hopefully Raul will get the job done until Ricky can play.

That means one of Sexton/Osman/Windler/Stevens/Wade isn't on the team next year, with simply not signing Sexton or cutting Windler/Stevens/Wade being the most straightforward options. Sign-and-trading Windler and/or Osman for Rubio also being on the table if the Pacers are willing.

JonFromVA · Post #162 » by **JonFromVA** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 8:38 pm

ijspeelman wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:

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Hopefully Raul will get the job done until Ricky can play.

Decent enough stop-gap as a PG. Makes our guard rotation even more bloated especially if Sexton is coming back. I guess its Sexton, Okoro, and LeVert try-outs until January.

In theory all the depth would be nice.

I count about 1800 minutes last season that went to "In Case of Emergency Break Glass" level players.

toooskies · Post #163 » by **toooskies** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:13 pm

I imagine if Rubio comes back and Neto's minutes dry up we'll do him a solid and trade/release him.

JujitsuFlip · Post #164 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:17 pm

I assume Windler or Cedi are gone.

gflem · Post #165 » by **gflem** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 9:28 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:I assume Windler or Cedi are gone.

To Indy for Rubio? Then double S&T Sexton for Warren to follow?

JujitsuFlip · Post #166 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 10:01 pm

gflem wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I assume Windler or Cedi are gone.

To Indy for Rubio? Then double S&T Sexton for Warren to follow?

Personally, I wouldn't and doubt the Cavs are. They gave Rubio the portion of the MLE to avoid being hard capped, so doubt they turn around and accept a player via S&T to hard cap themselves.

Probably just trade Windler somewhere with cash and maybe a 2nd rounder attached, call it a day.

Could waive Stevens, then throw him back on a 2-way, to clear a roster spot.

The Cavs don't have to figure it out until October.

toooskies · Post #167 » by **toooskies** » Fri Jul 1, 2022 11:25 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
gflem wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I assume Windler or Cedi are gone.

To Indy for Rubio? Then double S&T Sexton for Warren to follow?
Personally, I wouldn't and doubt the Cavs are. They gave Rubio the portion of the MLE to avoid being hard capped, so doubt they turn around and accept a player via S&T to hard cap themselves.

Probably just trade Windler somewhere with cash and maybe a 2nd rounder attached, call it a day.

Could waive Stevens, then throw him back on a 2-way, to clear a roster spot.

The Cavs don't have to figure it out until October.

They may have given Rubio less than the MLE because that was how much he was worth on the market. It may have nothing to do with the hard cap.

Stevens probably gets signed by somebody to a minimum deal rather than having to take a two-way.

It probably isn't possible, but the Cavs could do something squirrelly and not technically sign Rubio until he finishes his rehab.

JujitsuFlip · Post #168 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 12:56 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
gflem wrote:To Indy for Rubio? Then double S&T Sexton for Warren to follow?
Personally, I wouldn't and doubt the Cavs are. They gave Rubio the portion of the MLE to avoid being hard capped, so doubt they turn around and accept a player via S&T to hard cap themselves.

Probably just trade Windler somewhere with cash and maybe a 2nd rounder attached, call it a day.

Could waive Stevens, then throw him back on a 2-way, to clear a roster spot.

The Cavs don't have to figure it out until October.

They may have given Rubio less than the MLE because that was how much he was worth on the market. It may have nothing to do with the hard cap.

Stevens probably gets signed by somebody to a minimum deal rather than having to take a two-way.

It probably isn't possible, but the Cavs could do something squirrelly and not technically sign Rubio until he finishes his rehab.

Rubio's contract AAV is $6 million, I doubt it is a coincidence that coincides with this season's portion of the MLE to avoid the hard cap.

toooskies · Post #169 » by **toooskies** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 1:30 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Personally, I wouldn't and doubt the Cavs are. They gave Rubio the portion of the MLE to avoid being hard capped, so doubt they turn around and accept a player via S&T to hard cap themselves.

Probably just trade Windler somewhere with cash and maybe a 2nd rounder attached, call it a day.

Could waive Stevens, then throw him back on a 2-way, to clear a roster spot.

The Cavs don't have to figure it out until October.

They may have given Rubio less than the MLE because that was how much he was worth on the market. It may have nothing to do with the hard cap.

Stevens probably gets signed by somebody to a minimum deal rather than having to take a two-way.

It probably isn't possible, but the Cavs could do something squirrelly and not technically sign Rubio until he finishes his rehab.
Rubio's contract AAV is $6 million, I doubt it is a coincidence that coincides with this season's portion of the MLE to avoid the hard cap.

It's somewhat under the actual number and it's not the typical most you can get with 8% annual raises.

mcfly1204 · Post #170 » by **mcfly1204** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 2:06 am

Any Sexton rumblings floating around out there?

Revenged25 · Post #171 » by **Revenged25** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 12:54 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:Any Sexton rumblings floating around out there?

Been googling daily for them, but most most I've seen is that the Cavs extended an offer to Sexton that in the value range of 3/50, not sure if it was longer or not, and that the Mavs would be looking to make a push for Sexton after losing out on Brunson. But even then nothing really concrete on any of the information.

gflem · Post #172 » by **gflem** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 3:40 pm

If anyone is interested here is the Summer League roster for this season.

Cleveland Cavaliers 2022 NBA2K23 Summer League Roster
Roster
PLAYER # POS HEIGHT WEIGHT BIRTHDATE AGE EXP SCHOOL
Malik Osborne 0 F 6-9 225 lbs APR 09, 1998 24 R Florida State
Amar Sylla 1 F-C 6-9 190 lbs OCT 01, 2001 20 R Real Madrid (Spain)
Luke Travers 3 F 6-7 208 lbs SEP 03, 2001 20 R Rockingham Flames (Aus.)
R.J. Nembhard 5 G 6-5 200 lbs MAR 22, 1999 23 1 TCU
Jamorko Pickett 5 F 6-9 206 lbs DEC 24, 1997 24 1 Georgetown
Nate Reuvers 6 F-C 6-11 235 lbs SEP 30, 1996 25 R Wisconsin
Cam Young 7 F 6-6 205 lbs MAR 24, 1996 26 R Quinnipiac
Isaiah Mobley 15 F 6-10 240 lbs SEP 24, 1999 22 R Southern California
Ashton Hagans 20 G 6-3 190 lbs JUL 08, 1999 22 1 Kentucky
Ochai Agbaji 30 G 6-5 215 lbs APR 20, 2000 22 R Kansas
Amauri Hardy 36 G 6-1 200 lbs APR 30, 1998 24 R Oregon
Josh Hall 38 F 6-9 190 lbs OCT 08, 2000 21 R Moravian Prep (NC)
Aaron Henry 39 F 6-5 210 lbs AUG 30, 1999 22 1 Michigan State

JujitsuFlip · Post #173 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 9:07 pm

Signed Mobley's brother to a 2-way.

gflem · Post #174 » by **gflem** » Sat Jul 2, 2022 11:36 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:Signed Mobley's brother to a 2-way.

Darius Garland got the bag, 5 years $193 million, from wiretap.

JujitsuFlip · Post #175 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 12:44 am

gflem wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Signed Mobley's brother to a 2-way.

Darius Garland got the bag, 5 years $193 million, from wiretap.

Rightfully so,

toooskies · Post #176 » by **toooskies** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 3:42 pm

Agbaji and Brobley signed to their expected deals, so that just leaves Sexton as unresolved.

JujitsuFlip · Post #177 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 4:32 pm

Nembhard or however its spelled, signed the second 2way, so the roster is at 17 with the cap hold for Sexton, he can sign his QO which would bring the roster to 18, then just have to get rid of one of Cedi, Windler, Stevens, Neto, or Wade. Probably have a couple Exhibit 10 contracts as well to reach the 20 man training camp roster limit.

JonFromVA · Post #178 » by **JonFromVA** » Sun Jul 3, 2022 6:05 pm

I wonder if they can play games with Ricky's contract so they get him paid, but don't technically sign him until he's ready to play. If he wants to stay in Spain until his rehab is complete, perhaps something could be done?

gflem · Post #179 » by **gflem** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 6:27 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:Nembhard or however its spelled, signed the second 2way, so the roster is at 17 with the cap hold for Sexton, he can sign his QO which would bring the roster to 18, then just have to get rid of one of Cedi, Windler, Stevens, Neto, or Wade. Probably have a couple Exhibit 10 contracts as well to reach the 20 man training camp roster limit.

The obvious choice to waive is Windler to me if it comes to that. Cedi would most likely net more in a trade but then a player/contract would have to come back so not sure that trading him solves anything unless player coming back can be bought out or waived. I don't see Wade being moved as he has been useful when given the opportunity, same with Stevens. Neto was just signed as our backup PG until Rubio is ready so he is here at least until then imo.

JujitsuFlip · Post #180 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:25 pm

gflem wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Nembhard or however its spelled, signed the second 2way, so the roster is at 17 with the cap hold for Sexton, he can sign his QO which would bring the roster to 18, then just have to get rid of one of Cedi, Windler, Stevens, Neto, or Wade. Probably have a couple Exhibit 10 contracts as well to reach the 20 man training camp roster limit.

The obvious choice to waive is Windler to me if it comes to that. Cedi would most likely net more in a trade but then a player/contract would have to come back so not sure that trading him solves anything unless player coming back can be bought out or waived. I don't see Wade being moved as he has been useful when given the opportunity, same with Stevens. Neto was just signed as our backup PG until Rubio is ready so he is here at least until then imo.

Windler is probably the easiest out of those 2 (Cedi) to trade. Don't have to take a player back in a trade. If a team has a TPE or even just some cap, can trade Windler plus cash to a team for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder or even the rights to an overseas player.